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Fk'n Damon......:angry:

 

Bonser blows!

 

he actually doesnt. He pitched well in the playoffs last yr and is a damn good pitcher. He isnt making many mistakes, our lineup is just locked in right now and hitting every pitch he misses with.

 

E-6, the inning continues...

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and to think' date=' we are missing a perennial .290 25HR 110RBI man too. Man, this offense is dirty.[/quote']

 

And will get you further than your starting rotation.

 

But Petitte is money tonight.

 

Bonser sucks.

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he actually doesnt. He pitched well in the playoffs last yr and is a damn good pitcher. He isnt making many mistakes, our lineup is just locked in right now and hitting every pitch he misses with.

 

E-6, the inning continues...

 

Well, let's just say he's having a bad night. Down 6-0? In the 5th??

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And will get you further than your starting rotation.

 

But Petitte is money tonight.

 

Bonser sucks.

 

The cold was f***ing with the touch pitches. Finesse pitchers have trouble locating breaking pitches in the cold. It was obvious as every pitcher in our staff couldnt locate their curves. Both Pettitte and Pavano (who didnt pitch in the cold mind you) have located their curves very well. If they locate their stuff, they will be tough to beat. Tonight, Pettitte is dealing.

 

ARod INT walk? LOL.

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Well' date=' let's just say he's having a bad night. Down 6-0? In the 5th??[/quote']

 

2 big flies accounted for 5 of those 6. And the HR by ARod was on a pitchers pitch. He is just f***ing raking right now.

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I don't like Giambi that much. But b/c of Papi, I love when someone beats the f***ING SHIFT!!!!!!!

 

7-0??? This sucks, time to watch the Sox home opener!

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Pettitte dealing. 1 down.

 

2 down.

 

MAN, I have missed this. Pettitte, just like Wells, just like Clemens, knows exactly how to pitch with a lead. He K'd 3 early, and now is just pitching right to contact. Exactly what I want to see.

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Jacko cracks me up. Couldn't pitch because it was cold, eh? Not the recipe for success when the playoffs are in October. Oh wait, now I get to learn how it won't matter then.

 

*Note: I don't think it matters now, but watching Jacko spin away is pure hilarity.

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Jacko cracks me up. Couldn't pitch because it was cold, eh? Not the recipe for success when the playoffs are in October. Oh wait, now I get to learn how it won't matter then.

 

*Note: I don't think it matters now, but watching Jacko spin away is pure hilarity.

 

ORS, were you ever a pitcher? A fastball requires you to throw a baseball straight. Breaking stuff is all about timing your snap and feel. In the freezing cold, you dont have feel for the ball.

 

On your other point, Derek Jeter said that stretch was the coldest he has EVER been on a baseball field. In October, it may drop into the 40s overnight. In the night game when it snowed, the temp was in the high 20s with a wind chill near zero.

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Yeah, I pitched and if you are snapping anything, you are doing it wrong. Breaking pitches are about grip and finger pressure. Hardly something a chill interferes with. If you want to justify their bad starts, just say, "Hey, they sucked this week, but it's a long season", kind of like we did with Schilling. But no, it couldn't be that the Yankee staff had a rough week, it's all the weather's fault. Sad.
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Yeah' date=' I pitched and if you are snapping anything, you are doing it wrong. Breaking pitches are about grip and finger pressure. Hardly something a chill interferes with. If you want to justify their bad starts, just say, "Hey, they sucked this week, but it's a long season", kind of like we did with Schilling. But no, it couldn't be that the Yankee staff had a rough week, it's all the weather's fault. Sad.[/quote']

 

The weather played a part in it. I wont blame the whole thing on the weather, but it played a part. They did suck. But the only reason why I make this assumption is that every single pitcher had the exact same problem. Pettitte, Mussina, Rasner, Igawa. All 4 with big breaking balls. All 4 couldnt come close to locating them. They did suck it hard, but when the same thing is wrong with every pitcher, it seems like more than just consistent sucking. Dont you think?

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Yeah' date=' I pitched and if you are snapping anything, you are doing it wrong. Breaking pitches are about grip and finger pressure. Hardly something a chill interferes with. If you want to justify their bad starts, just say, "Hey, they sucked this week, but it's a long season", kind of like we did with Schilling. But no, it couldn't be that the Yankee staff had a rough week, it's all the weather's fault. Sad.[/quote']

 

finger pressure? A curveball? I was taught by Joe Niekro along with other collegiate coaching. I think I know where I am coming from and how to pitch. You want to throw a cutter or a 2 seamer, it is about finger pressure. You want to throw a curveball or a slider, it is about the snap of the wrist.

 

Obviously finger pressure plays a role n every pitch, but cmon now.

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The weather played a part in it. I wont blame the whole thing on the weather' date=' but it played a part. They did suck. But the only reason why I make this assumption is that every single pitcher had the exact same problem. Pettitte, Mussina, Rasner, Igawa. All 4 with big breaking balls. All 4 couldnt come close to locating them. They did suck it hard, but when the same thing is wrong with every pitcher, it seems like more than just consistent sucking. Dont you think?[/quote']

Well, I was in DC over the weekend visiting my Dad for Easter, so I got to watch a couple of the games on MASN. Bedard didn't seem to struggle with his hook. Loewen seemed to have command of his breaking pitches. Let me guess, it's because they are Canadian?

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Well' date=' I was in DC over the weekend visiting my Dad for Easter, so I got to watch a couple of the games on MASN. Bedard didn't seem to struggle with his hook. Loewen seemed to have command of his breaking pitches. Let me guess, it's because they are Canadian?[/quote']

 

Loewen couldnt locate his curve at all. Bedard was pretty tough, I must admit. I am only saying it is a factor that is all.

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finger pressure? A curveball? I was taught by Joe Niekro along with other collegiate coaching. I think I know where I am coming from and how to pitch. You want to throw a cutter or a 2 seamer, it is about finger pressure. You want to throw a curveball or a slider, it is about the snap of the wrist.

 

Obviously finger pressure plays a role n every pitch, but cmon now.

Well you obviously have to turn the wrist over for the spin, but that motion isn't what imparts the spin to the ball. The grip and pressure do. As you note, pressure is important to every pitch, and pressure is the feel of the pitch. Why only the curve balls? Why didn't every pitch suck if they lost feel due to the cold? And, for that matter, since releasing the FB is about feel too, why didn't the FB fail too? I didn't watch every inning of every game during the cold front. Maybe that did happen, but that isn't how you portray it. It was curveball only according to you. That doesn't make much sense, so it looks like spin. Pardon the pun.

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Well you obviously have to turn the wrist over for the spin' date=' but that motion isn't what imparts the spin to the ball. The grip and pressure do. As you note, pressure is important to every pitch, and pressure is the feel of the pitch. Why only the curve balls? Why didn't every pitch suck if they lost feel due to the cold? And, for that matter, since releasing the FB is about feel too, why didn't the FB fail too? I didn't watch every inning of every game during the cold front. Maybe that did happen, but that isn't how you portray it. It was curveball only according to you. That doesn't make much sense, so it looks like spin. Pardon the pun.[/quote']

 

Curveballs are harder to control than fastballs. You take away some of the feel for the ball and it becomes that much more difficult.

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Yankees win 10-1.

 

My thoughts...

 

Andy Pettitte was brilliant. Locating with the heat away most of the day, but not afraid to locate inside when needed. His cutter was used sparingly but sharp and his curveball was magnificent, unlike his first start. And just like the old yankees, Pettitte knew what to do with a big lead. As I said in the sox gameday, some pitchers dont know how to pitch to contact when the score isnt in doubt and run their pitch counts up only to burn the pen on a day when it isnt needed. Pettitte wasnt one of those pitchers. He went 6, obviously started to labor at the end of the 6th, but this is what you get from a pitcher who missed 2.5 weeks of ST. 6 strong innings, saved the pen again.

 

The offense. Hmm, wow, the offense. Bonser was not pitching poorly, as a matter of fact he had a stretch of something like 9 retired in a row and was absolutely dealing. But 2 pitches did him in. One, the homer by ARod which was a curve that hit its spot, ARod just smashed it. The other, he left the heat up and in on Damon, right where he likes it. Hits all over the place tonight, another successful game for the offense.

 

Then pen was serviceable. 3IP 1ER, the 1 run scoring on Proctor who momentarily lost the zone.

 

The defense was pretty good as well.

 

Overall, very solid game in every aspect and another W. Thus far, we have taken Minny out of the game early 2 games in a row, and with journeyman Ramon Ortiz facing our best pitcher (ERA wise) from last yr, we might be looking at a sweep.

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Arod's getting the homeruns out of the way now so he can finish with 40+ and 120+ rbi but still have yankee fans call him a useless piece.
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Arod's getting the homeruns out of the way now so he can finish with 40+ and 120+ rbi but still have yankee fans call him a useless piece.

If he tails off in october, it will continue. If he keeps this level of clutchitude going for the entire season, he will be the toast of the town.

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