AL MVP: did Jeter and Morneau tie?

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

By GEORGE KING

November 21, 2006 -- How close was the AL MVP voting that will be announced today? Throughout baseball yesterday an unsubstantiated rumor buzzed the landscape that Derek Jeter and Twins first baseman Justin Morneau had tied for the award.

 

However, nobody from MLB or the Baseball Writers Association of America confirmed the rumor.

 

"I am not allowed to say anything," said BBWAA secretary-treasurer Jack O'Connell, the man who counts the votes and will inform the winner this morning.

 

The rumor gained steam when the Phillies' Ryan Howard won the NL MVP yesterday, because before the various awards were announced last week, somebody in MLB was shown a list of BBWAA award winners. After Howard won, that list was 7-for-7 and had Jeter and Morneau sharing today's award.

 

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11212006/sports/yankees/say_it_aint_co_yankees_george_king.htm

[schillingouttheks]

[CrespoBlows]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2660067&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos2

 

They tied right here, 7-7.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Why is Morneau being talked about more then Mauer?

[redsoxrules]

Why is Morneau being talked about more then Mauer?

 

why the f*** is ortiz not being talked at all

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

why the f*** is ortiz not being talked at all

 

I'll say one thing, Papi is more deserving then Morneau. In fact its quite silly Morneau is even being talked about when you consider he was the 3rd most valuable player on his team. I have a funny feeling the sports writers screwed up again and voted Morneau the MVP.

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

why the f*** is ortiz not being talked at all

 

Probably because his team (and his own play to a degree) tailed off the last couple months of the season. If he had hit all those GW HRs and 2Bs in September instead of July he might have had a chance.

[riverside sluggers]

Yeah Ortiz tailed off in the 2nd half

.292, 23 HRs, 50 RBIs

 

pitiful September as well

.299, 7 HRs, 16 RBIs

 

And sorry Ortiz because of you choosing to have game winning hits come in the 1st half instead of September, you cost yourself the MVP. Please... writers have a distate for DH's plain & simple.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

http://www.baseballwriters.org/awards/2006/2006_AL_mvp.html

 

gotta love those baseball writers.

[riverside sluggers]

Even Jeter is sideswiped...

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Yeah Ortiz tailed off in the 2nd half

.292, 23 HRs, 50 RBIs

 

pitiful September as well

.299, 7 HRs, 16 RBIs

 

And sorry Ortiz because of you choosing to have game winning hits come in the 1st half instead of September, you cost yourself the MVP. Please... writers have a distate for DH's plain & simple.

 

Not pitiful, but below par for him.

 

16 RBIs in both Aug and Sept. as opposed to months like 20, 28, 22, and 35 in Apr.-July.

 

Also, a late Aug/early Sept stretch where he missed 8 straight games doesn't help.

 

Anyway it's a moot point because morneau won it outright per espn radio.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Morneau ranks 26th in VORP and 16th in Win Shares.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Can anyone here make a case for Morneau being the MVP of the Twins let alone the AL?

[redsoxrules]

Can anyone here make a case for Morneau being the MVP of the Twins let alone the AL?

 

nope , this is ridiculous

[Mr Crunchy]

why does anyone care about these popularity contests anyways?

jetsey makes the cut but ortiz doesnt??

 

id venture to say if you polled ny'ers who have an iq over 60 they'd tell you that mr ortiz is more valuable than mr jeter despite jetseys nice season.

 

in fact

i'll go out on a limb and say johnny damon was more valuable to ny than jetsey was this year

 

as long as pathetic ballwashers are choosing who the MVP is it means nothing

christ

didnt ted williams win the triple crown and not win the MVP??

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

nope ' date=' this is ridiculous[/quote']

 

Its yet another reminder these awards mean nothing.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Rotoworld nailed it:

 

Justin Morneau was named AL MVP on Tuesday after receiving 15 of the 28 first-place votes.

Ridiculous. Derek Jeter came in second with 12 first-place votes and 306 points. Even though Morneau was, in reality, the third most valuable player on his team, he ranked in the top four on all 28 ballots cast by the writers, giving him 320 points. In third place was David Ortiz, who received 193 points. The rest of the top 10 included Frank Thomas (174), Jermaine Dye (156), Joe Mauer (116), Johan Santana (114), Travis Hafner (64), Vladimir Guerrero (46) and Carlos Guillen (34). Santana received the lone first-place vote not going to Morneau or Jeter, but seven voters left him off the ballot entirely. Morneau wins despite leading the league in no significant categories. He finished eighth in OPS and 10th once OPS is adjusted for ballpark, and since he did that as an average defensive first baseman with little value on the basepaths, he qualifies as perhaps the weakest MVP in decades.

[BudLight]

Ten bucks says the one sixth place vote for Jeter came from a writer in Boston

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Ten bucks says the one sixth place vote for Jeter came from a writer in Boston

 

It came from the Chicago Sun Times according to M@MD.

[redsoxrules]

Its yet another reminder these awards mean nothing.

 

i know but it still pisses me off

 

edit , he didnt even lead in any offensive production ,

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

i know but it still pisses me off

 

edit , he didnt even lead in any offensive production ,

 

Its the worst MVP selection in years. There were around 10 players I could think of that are just as "valuable" as Morneau and 2 of them are on his own team.

[rician blast]

Probably because his team (and his own play to a degree) tailed off the last couple months of the season. If he had hit all those GW HRs and 2Bs in September instead of July he might have had a chance.

 

 

If he had a healthy Manny hitting behind him I think his numbers would have been better too...which is amazing when you consider how good he was ALL year. In fact imagine Papi with the Yankees line-up around him?

 

Oh, wait, that's an unpopular thing to say...as we learned this summer.

[rician blast]

Ten bucks says the one sixth place vote for Jeter came from a writer in Boston

 

While that would be unfair, and I doubt that it was a Boston write, it would serve as sort of a "poetic justice" for the fk jobs that have been thrown the way of Red Sox players (i.e. Pedro, anyone?) in the past.

 

Like someone said earlier...this is why these individual awards are often a total joke. (Take the AL GG for instance).

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Pedro being left off the ballot in 99 was flat out insane.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

M&MD have the guy who voted Jeter 6th on and his reasoning is quite laughable.

[Cocos Disciples]

What is it?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

He had the nerve to say that A-Rod and Cano were more dangerous with the game on the line then Jeter. We all know thats silly, A-Rod's big game ability is joked about around here.

[Mr Crunchy]

gotta be the eyelashes that resemble liz taylors

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Great article by Keith Law: http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=2670990&name=law_keith

[MC Hammer]

Truely a shame that Jeter didn't win after leading all of baseball in being Derek Jeter.

 

I love that ESPN can't just annonce Morneau as the winner. They have to say Morneau won, but look how close it was, and here are some stats that Jeter beat Morneau in ... soooo.

 

f*** ESPN. f*** Jeter.