Most exciting young pitcher in the minors for the sox?

[BSN07]

I cant wait to see daniel Bard pitch in the pros, I know he still young and just drafted but when he throw a 100mph fastball with seemingly no effort or better yet not tourqe on his shoulder or elbow makes me think he could be a justin verlander type soon.

[jacksonianmarch]

I cant wait to see daniel Bard pitch in the pros' date=' I know he still young and just drafted but when he throw a 100mph fastball with seemingly no effort or better yet not tourqe on his shoulder or elbow makes me think he could be a justin verlander type soon.[/quote']

 

The most exciting player is Ellsbury, because he is the one who has made it the closest to the big leagues. Other than that, the rest of the guys are huge ?'s at best. There was a guy who once threw the ball 105-110mph in the minor leagues. He threw a no-hitter once and walked 17 batters and gave up 9 runs. It is not about the power, it is about the location and the change of speed.

[Cityofchampions33]

Im excited about Bard, but I wanna see how Buchholz does, as he's had success and is further developed.

[example1]

Bowden is the one I'm most excited about. He's been a badass since his HS days, as opposed to Buchholz who was a converted OF (right?) in college.

[Bosoxwest]

Short-term I think Cox is the guy to watch. After making the arm slot adjustment last year he has been just very damn impressive. The question mark is whether the adjustment is permanent. but if it is, by all accounts we could see him in the Boston bullpen next year, with nasty stuff.

[jacksonianmarch]

Short-term I think Cox is the guy to watch. After making the arm slot adjustment last year he has been just very damn impressive. The question mark is whether the adjustment is permanent. but if it is' date=' by all accounts we could see him in the Boston bullpen next year, with nasty stuff.[/quote']

 

Jim Callis considers him the 1st pitcher to make the red sox. I dont know much about him, lets see how things go.

[jsinger121]

Jim Callis considers him the 1st pitcher to make the red sox. I dont know much about him' date=' lets see how things go.[/quote']

 

High 90's fastball with a filthy slider. Gets guys to swing and miss and gets ground ball outs. One of the steals of the 2006 draft.

[jacksonianmarch]

High 90's fastball with a filthy slider. Gets guys to swing and miss and gets ground ball outs. One of the steals of the 2006 draft.

 

 

he was saying something about him having a decent FB until right before the draft and then his FB exploded and he kept it up in the minors. We'll see if he is another hansen or the real deal. I think the sox should do a leasing program with the royals. Send their young guys to the royals for a yr to get MLB seasoning with no pressure then return them when they mature. Hansen really could have used that.

[Cocos Disciples]

Look out for future closer Justin Masterson.

[jsinger121]

Look out for future closer Justin Masterson.

 

He's going to be a starter in 2007. Its already been decided.

[DUSTINMOHR4LIFE]

I'm extremely excited about Masterson. Watched him pitch at Futures at Fenway, his stuff is ELECTRIC

[jacksonianmarch]

most minor league hot prospects have electric stuff. Thing is, they never corrale it.

[ksushi]

Correction: They don't always corrale it. These guys all have potential they won't all be difference makers, but they might be.

 

My favorite is Bowden. I think he will do it. Given his age and his stuff. He will be big time.

[SuperManny]

My favorite prospect right now is Ellsbury. I've been watching him since the day the Sox drafted him and loved him in the college world series. He is so damn fast and will be a perfect CF/leadoff hitter for the Sox in a year or two.

[scaffolds]

The Sox are looking Justin Masterson as a starter in 2007, however the general scouting view is that his stuff is more suited as a reliever, but not as a closer someone similar to former Sox Bob Stanley.

[Cityofchampions33]

Well, with a great draft, we should only begin to see the rewards that coems with teh top draft. When all these guys mature, It'll be as exciting, if not more, than when Papelbon and Lester came up.

[jacksonianmarch]

unfortunately, not all of them will mature.

[SuperManny]

Pitchers are more hit and miss but the Sox have plenty of young pitchers which is always good. This year BA ranked the Sox #1 in the draft and #2 last year so thats good for the future though. At least a couple of them should pan out.

[mosox]

unfortunately' date=' not all of them will mature.[/quote']

 

Or stay healthy. I think the Liriano situation proves how fragile hard throwing pitchers can be.

[ksushi]

I agree, lets not even try to develop arms, because clearly free agency provides plenty of alternatives. Or we could ask Koufax and Clemens if they don't mind making a DNA donation and we can use their genes to genitically engineer pitchers. We could grow them, like they grew people in the matrix. The ones that don't succeed we can kill and liquefy to feed to the ones still pitching, that way we aren't spending money on feeding them either. Huh?

 

Kidding completely, Free Agency doesn't work anymore. Because of revenue sharing teams can extend their talent until their arms fall off. Not all of them will mature into major league pitchers, but in order to acquire pitching, you have to grow your own. Either keep it or trade it, but free agency ain't cuttin' it anymore.

[jacksonianmarch]

I agree, lets not even try to develop arms, because clearly free agency provides plenty of alternatives. Or we could ask Koufax and Clemens if they don't mind making a DNA donation and we can use their genes to genitically engineer pitchers. We could grow them, like they grew people in the matrix. The ones that don't succeed we can kill and liquefy to feed to the ones still pitching, that way we aren't spending money on feeding them either. Huh?

 

Kidding completely, Free Agency doesn't work anymore. Because of revenue sharing teams can extend their talent until their arms fall off. Not all of them will mature into major league pitchers, but in order to acquire pitching, you have to grow your own. Either keep it or trade it, but free agency ain't cuttin' it anymore.

 

 

Free agency has been put on the fritz by having teams like the yankees and the red sox throw millions of dollars to the poor teams in revenue sharing. This will stop soon though. The yankees, starting in 09 when their payment for their new stadium begins, wil be able to exempt themselves their cost of the stadium per yr from the revenue sharing, essentially getting the stadium from the amount that they would have lost to the revenue sharing anyway. It is genius. But, if you figure the payments will be over 20-30 yrs and the cost is likely to be near 800-900mil and after interest that will likely be around 1.2-1.6 billion, split that up by 20-30 yrs and you get about 60 mil a yr. The yankees reportedly throw 40-50mil into the revenue sharing pot very single yr which goes to I believe the 5-6 poorest teams in the league (TB, MIN, KC, MIL, PIT, FLA, maybe more). That means 8-10mil per yr is being removed from the coffers of these teams. That is one premier player per season that these guys are losing. That kind of expense, is something akin to a third (or in the marlins case 2/3) to a fifth of their payroll. And that will stand for the length of the lease. So the yankees can potentially sway the balance of free agency again and essentially be creating a money making machine and hardly expend any money to do so in the process. That will start the whole free agency merry go round again. And the commission cannot step in to do anything about it, because any team that throws money into the revenue sharing pot and who has built a stadium has already benefitted from this, and any deviation from this would be criminal if only one franchise was not allowed to use this loophole. Selig's master plan will have ailed at that point and the teams with the big money will again rise to the top with big time FA's every yr and the small market clubs will sink to the bottom again swaying the balance from these upstart young wild card teams back to the big money big talent teams. That is great for us east coasters, but not so much for everyone else. You say FA is dead, I say it is lying dormant, but it will rise again, wait till 09, you'll see.

[riverside sluggers]

Kidding completely' date=' Free Agency doesn't work anymore. Because of revenue sharing teams can extend their talent until their arms fall off. Not all of them will mature into major league pitchers, but in order to acquire pitching, you have to grow your own. Either keep it or trade it, but free agency ain't cuttin' it anymore.[/quote']

 

True, like Carlos Zambrano is hitting the free agency market after the 07 season. The Cubs would be stupid to not extend his contract before the season starts

[ORS]

Free agency has been put on the fritz by having teams like the yankees and the red sox throw millions of dollars to the poor teams in revenue sharing. This will stop soon though. The yankees' date=' starting in 09 when their payment for their new stadium begins, wil be able to exempt themselves their cost of the stadium per yr from the revenue sharing, essentially getting the stadium from the amount that they would have lost to the revenue sharing anyway. It is genius. But, if you figure the payments will be over 20-30 yrs and the cost is likely to be near 800-900mil and after interest that will likely be around 1.2-1.6 billion, split that up by 20-30 yrs and you get about 60 mil a yr. The yankees reportedly throw 40-50mil into the revenue sharing pot very single yr which goes to I believe the 5-6 poorest teams in the league (TB, MIN, KC, MIL, PIT, FLA, maybe more). That means 8-10mil per yr is being removed from the coffers of these teams. That is one premier player per season that these guys are losing. That kind of expense, is something akin to a third (or in the marlins case 2/3) to a fifth of their payroll. And that will stand for the length of the lease. So the yankees can potentially sway the balance of free agency again and essentially be creating a money making machine and hardly expend any money to do so in the process. That will start the whole free agency merry go round again. And the commission cannot step in to do anything about it, because any team that throws money into the revenue sharing pot and who has built a stadium has already benefitted from this, and any deviation from this would be criminal if only one franchise was not allowed to use this loophole. Selig's master plan will have ailed at that point and the teams with the big money will again rise to the top with big time FA's every yr and the small market clubs will sink to the bottom again swaying the balance from these upstart young wild card teams back to the big money big talent teams. That is great for us east coasters, but not so much for everyone else. You say FA is dead, I say it is lying dormant, but it will rise again, wait till 09, you'll see.[/quote']

That's a very good and largely ignored point. Don't forget the Mets, too. All NY funds will be out of the revenue sharing stream by 2010.