Trade Ideas

[SoxFan02]

Figured i'd make a thread where people can post random trade ideas.

 

Here's mine:

 

Bos gets: Brandon Wood, Howie Kendrick, and Jered Weaver

 

Angels get: Manny and cash

 

then...

 

Bos gets: Bobby Abreu

 

PHI gets: Edgar Martinez, Ryan Klesko, cash

 

SD gets: Chad Spann, Keith Foulke (when healthy)

 

The sox would go from having a below average rotation to one of the best with:

1. Schilling

2. Beckett

3. Weaver

4. Lester

5. Wakefield

 

They would still have a decent lineup:

 

1. Youks

2. Loretta

3. Ortiz

4. Abreu

5. Nixon

6. Tek

7. Lowell

8. Crisp

9. Gonzalez

 

And would have three of the best young infielders in the game:

1. wood

2. kendrick

3.pedroia

[jsinger121]

Angels would never do that so you can forget it.

[Papelbon58]

yeah, the angels trade is insane and somehow I do not think Chad Spann and a contract of a guy who may never be decent again is enough for Ryan Klesko

plus, I do not think unloading Manny is going to happen with the recent talks that Manny wants to sign an extension with Boston to finish his career here.

[Papelbon58]

I think Rudy, and Willie Harris will definitely be on the move.

A Padres deal is possible for Klesko and a pitcher involving Seanez and a prospect

[Papelbon58]

how about Edgar Martinez and David Murphy for Gil Meche and Rene Rivera?

 

Maybe not Murphy, but you know, and outfielder and pitcher for Meche and Rivera

[jsinger121]

how about Edgar Martinez and David Murphy for Gil Meche and Rene Rivera?

 

Maybe not Murphy, but you know, and outfielder and pitcher for Meche and Rivera

 

I wouldn't do that deal. Meche is nothing special.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Angels might be able to get Miguel Cabrera with that package

[Papelbon58]

I see the Angels making a run at Torii Hunter, even if the Twins aren't shopping him

[Soxfan1]

The twins are shopping him and the angels refuse to trade wood and kendrick.

[Papelbon58]

The White Sox are going to trade either Freddy Garcia or Javier Vazquez to put McCarthy in the rotation. They want relief pitching in return. They are most interested in Phillies closer Tom Gordon but the Mets want one of them and are willing to trade Aaron Heilman and some of their young relievers. Most of that courtesy Mlbtraderumors.com

[ksushi]

If I were the Sox, I'd take a hard look at an Nixon for Abreu trade if I could immediately swing Abreu to the Angels for pitching like speculated. I'd take a look at Jeremy Affeldt too

[Cocos Disciples]

Why are we still discussing trading Manny? He seems happy, and he is performing as good as always. We have the best 3/4 combo in baseball, why are we looking to split that up?

[a700hitter]

Why are we still discussing trading Manny? He seems happy' date=' and he is performing as good as always. We have the best 3/4 combo in baseball, why are we looking to split that up?[/quote']Thank you for being a voice of reason. We are likely never to see another tandem like this in a Red Sox uniform, or any uniform for that matter. The last tandem like them were named Ruth and Gehrig. I am old, but I never saw them play.

[ksushi]

Manny might be the MVP this year, look at his numbers! its insane. If Ortiz doesn't win because of the absurd DH hating, Manny is the strongest candidate out there.

[ORS]

Keep Manny. First of all, the Angels never make that deal. Second of all, they aren't worth it. You have to keep the dynamic duo together, and Manny is what makes it tick. There are 10, only 10, players in the history of baseball (with enough PA to qualify) with an OPS over 1.000. Manny is one of them.

[Cocos Disciples]

Ortiz is MVP, he is the most valuable player in the league. Game on the line, he's who you want. That's valuable. Also, he brings us more value when he doesn't play the field.

[Cocos Disciples]

Trade Manny, and Ortiz doesn't produce as much either, because he'll get walked even more.

[TheKilo]

I wouldn't do that deal. Meche is nothing special.

 

 

Yea, a 3.87 ERA sucks.

 

You have Meche as a 4, enabling you to move Lester to #5.

 

 

I'd do it.

[jsinger121]

Yea, a 3.87 ERA sucks.

 

You have Meche as a 4, enabling you to move Lester to #5.

 

 

I'd do it.

 

Park factor has alot to do with his era. Take his out of Safeco Field and lets see how he does.

[example1]

Let's NOT trade for Meche. Please.

[MC Hammer]

Figured i'd make a thread where people can post random trade ideas.

 

Here's mine:

 

Bos gets: Brandon Wood, Howie Kendrick, and Jered Weaver

 

Angels get: Manny and cash

 

then...

 

Bos gets: Bobby Abreu

 

PHI gets: Edgar Martinez, Ryan Klesko, cash

 

SD gets: Chad Spann, Keith Foulke (when healthy)

 

The sox would go from having a below average rotation to one of the best with:

1. Schilling

2. Beckett

3. Weaver

4. Lester

5. Wakefield

 

They would still have a decent lineup:

 

1. Youks

2. Loretta

3. Ortiz

4. Abreu

5. Nixon

6. Tek

7. Lowell

8. Crisp

9. Gonzalez

 

And would have three of the best young infielders in the game:

1. wood

2. kendrick

3.pedroia

I'm not sure whats most insane about your plans. The fact that you want to trade Manny when he's having an MVP year, or the fact that you'd hit Abreu behind Papi. Do you honestly think theres a single team in this league that would even throw Papi a strike if Abreu was hitting behind him? I'd walk Papi with the bases loaded to face Abreu.

 

I understand at some point we're going to have to replace Manny, but jesus christ why do it with an overpaid 32 year old who has put together maybe 1 full season in his entire career?

 

I am completely against any trade that brings Abreu to Boston. I don't even want him for a bag of chips. I would sooner call up Adam Stern than trade for Bobby "where'd my power go" Abreu.

[DUSTINMOHR4LIFE]

i wouldnt want to trade murph for a mediocre pitcher

[example1]

I'm not sure whats most insane about your plans. The fact that you want to trade Manny when he's having an MVP year, or the fact that you'd hit Abreu behind Papi. Do you honestly think theres a single team in this league that would even throw Papi a strike if Abreu was hitting behind him? I'd walk Papi with the bases loaded to face Abreu.

 

I understand at some point we're going to have to replace Manny, but jesus christ why do it with an overpaid 32 year old who has put together maybe 1 full season in his entire career?

 

I am completely against any trade that brings Abreu to Boston. I don't even want him for a bag of chips. I would sooner call up Adam Stern than trade for Bobby "where'd my power go" Abreu.

 

That's insane.

 

I am not in favor of trading our best players or prospects to get Abreu. I'm not in favor of trading Abreu as part of a plan to get rid of Manny. I am in favor of putting a guy with a 400+ OBP in ANY lineup. Yes, his power has dipped, so he just gets on base a whole lot. Isn't that what Youkilis does? I believe it is. Would I want to add a speedier Youkilis to this order in exchange for a Trot Nixon? If the deal is good enough, absolutely. He's an on-base machine and would be a great #5 replacement:

 

Youkilis

Loretta

Ortiz

Manny

Abreu

Lowell

Varitek

Crisp

A-Gon

 

I love Trot, but if he's going to take a home-town discount he had better let the FO know about it soon.

[RoyNHSox]

Saw this on FOX Sports from today:

 

The Rockies are scouring the relief market, looking at the Phillies' Arthur Rhodes, Red Sox's Julian Tavarez and Rudy Seanez and Pirates' Roberto Hernandez and Salomon Torres, among others. The team appears willing to sacrifice left-hander Ray King in any exchange of relievers.

[MC Hammer]

That's insane.

 

I am not in favor of trading our best players or prospects to get Abreu. I'm not in favor of trading Abreu as part of a plan to get rid of Manny. I am in favor of putting a guy with a 400+ OBP in ANY lineup. Yes, his power has dipped, so he just gets on base a whole lot. Isn't that what Youkilis does? I believe it is. Would I want to add a speedier Youkilis to this order in exchange for a Trot Nixon? If the deal is good enough, absolutely. He's an on-base machine and would be a great #5 replacement:

 

Youkilis

Loretta

Ortiz

Manny

Abreu

Lowell

Varitek

Crisp

A-Gon

 

I love Trot, but if he's going to take a home-town discount he had better let the FO know about it soon.

Yes thats what Youk does but he wouldn't be replacing Youk. He'd be replacing Manny in SoxFan02's predictions. He also had Abreu hitting 4th. You definatly wouldn't hit Abreu 4th in this lineup.

 

As for your idea. I just don't understand moving Trot and bringing in Abreu. Why move an above average OFer who is making 7.5 Mill for an above average OF who is making 13.6 Mill? I know I've said before that the last thing the Sox should have to worry about is money, but spending 6.1 Mill to bring in a player who may only be maginally better than the player you currently have is just silly.

[The Monster is my Mom]

It's funny how we get on players for their lack of loyalty (ie Damon), but the second there is a possibility of trading our longest tenured Sox (Nixon) people starting jumping up and down wanting to do it. I can't really blame players for jumping ship for more money when they have a chance.

[MC Hammer]

It's funny how we get on players for their lack of loyalty (ie Damon), but the second there is a possibility of trading our longest tenured Sox (Nixon) people starting jumping up and down wanting to do it. I can't really blame players for jumping ship for more money when they have a chance.

Did you happen to be a Red Sox fan when Johnny left? Did you hear his comments? That's why he has a lack of loyalty. He openly lied to every single person in RSN. On top of that he lied about the offers he recieved in hopes to screw the Sox out of more money.

 

That being said I think I've made it clear I'm against trading Trot.

[DUSTINMOHR4LIFE]

what about trading for David Murphy and/or a B-/B pitching prospect for Marcus Giles in the off season? We could put Marcus at second and Pedroia at short... that would be a pretty nifty Middle infield...

 

Pretty good article from MLB.com: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060707&content_id=1544616&vkey=news_mlb_nd&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[example1]

It's funny how we get on players for their lack of loyalty (ie Damon), but the second there is a possibility of trading our longest tenured Sox (Nixon) people starting jumping up and down wanting to do it. I can't really blame players for jumping ship for more money when they have a chance.

 

We consider possible moves the Red Sox can make on this page. This means that most of us try to think about the team in the same way that the front-office thinks about them. That being said, Trot Nixon is in the last year of his contract. I have no clue how much money he is looking for or his value as far as the Red Sox are concerned. He is a good player who has been around for awhile but he is not irreplacable, and certainly is more replacable if someone who produces as much for as much money is available, or if someone who is better is available.

 

There aren't a lot of spots that this team can be improved at this point. Nobody is going to displace our players at 2B, 1B, C, 3B, CF, LF or DH. We could upgrade at SS and possibly RF (not to mention all the pitching help we could use).

 

In either case, it is not blasphamous to discuss trade possibilities. People said the same thing when Theo traded Nomah and I don't hear many people complaining now.

 

Nixon is a good, hardworking player. He is not an all-star, he is not young and he tends to not be healthy or effective against people who are left handed. Addressing any of those concerns could represent an upgrade and that's something I'm always a fan of.

 

If Nixon is happy with a bench role then great. Or if he's happy platooning for the next few years until Wily Mo, Crisp, Ellsbury, etc., are ready to take over in RF that's great. But I don't expect the Sox to spend weeks and weeks trying to negotiate a deal that Trot feels is in his favor. Hopefully he'll do what wake did and offer a hometown discount and this isn't an issue, but he's one of the few people the Sox can look at m oving or using as leverage and I expect that they will.

[ksushi]

I personally think that unless it leads to us getting a young SP, trading Nixon is a bad idea, even for Abreu. If anyone thinks that SS still needs an upgrade, they're nuts. Gonzalez is the SS we have been looking for for years, signing him to an extension would put an end to the revolving door there and I Think he deserves it.