Yankees vs. Tampa Bay

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

You just gave me 26 reasons to hate you.

 

Scott Proctor will never have an ERA at 1.60 the whole year. (His control still isn't there)

Tanyon Sturtze (no explanation needed)

Randy Johnson looks merely average.

Shawn Chacon tries to walk as much batters as he strikes out.

Aaron Small was an aberration, if his ERA is under 5.00, Hell will seriously freeze over.

Villone's never been good, I can't see how his ERA will stay that low.

Same goes with the Moose, his ERA will rise. (Though he could have a 3.20 ERA by year's end)

Wang, can't strike anyone out, and when he can't throw his sinker, he's terrible.

Oh, and Jaret Wright.

 

Dotel could be OK though.

 

In conclusion, if you ask any baseball expert, they'll tell you the Red Sox pitching staff is better. You can't actually expect the Yankees pitching staff to keep up that status quo, do you? If you do, that's total bias on your behalf.

 

 

Sure, on paper the sox staff looks better, but that's why they play the games. Right now, the yankees staff is pitching very well, whether you want to admit it or not. Until the Red Sox actually start pitching better than the Yankees, I'm right. :harhar:

[TheRivernator]

Sure, on paper the sox staff looks better, but that's why they play the games. Right now, the yankees staff is pitching very well, whether you want to admit it or not. Until the Red Sox actually starts pitching better than the Yankees, I'm right. :harhar:

 

yup yup

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

wow what a stupid move by A-Rod

[CrespoBlows]

Does anyone else think Andy Phillips looks a little bit like Tom Brady?

[26 to 6]

I didn't want to have to do this...

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggregate?statType=pitching&group=9&seasonType=2&type=type1&sort=ERA&split=0&season=2006

 

Yankees - 4th best ERA in MLB (3.72)

Red Sox - 19th best ERA in MLB (4.69)

 

Yankees - 4th best WHIP in MLB (1.25)

Red Sox - 12th best WHIP in MLB (1.36)

Thank You. It needed to be done.

 

BTW, Scott Proctor has been f***ing amazing. His stuff is absolutely nasty and he is finally putting it together....

Like I predicted he would. Keeps pitching good, by the time Pavano is ready Cashman and co. will be faced with a tough decision. DFA/Trade somebody else, or Option Proctor. Tough call.

 

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You just gave me 26 reasons to hate you.

 

Scott Proctor will never have an ERA at 1.60 the whole year. (His control still isn't there)

Tanyon Sturtze (no explanation needed)

Randy Johnson looks merely average.

Shawn Chacon tries to walk as much batters as he strikes out.

Aaron Small was an aberration, if his ERA is under 5.00, Hell will seriously freeze over.

Villone's never been good, I can't see how his ERA will stay that low.

Same goes with the Moose, his ERA will rise. (Though he could have a 3.20 ERA by year's end)

Wang, can't strike anyone out, and when he can't throw his sinker, he's terrible.

Oh, and Jaret Wright.

 

Dotel could be OK though.

 

In conclusion, if you ask any baseball expert, they'll tell you the Red Sox pitching staff is better. You can't actually expect the Yankees pitching staff to keep up that status quo, do you? If you do, that's total bias on your behalf.

So there is NO WAY the Yankee pitching can remain good, but Schilling and Beckett being lights out all year is a hands down guarantee?

[TheRivernator]

option proctor? He has arguably been our best pitcher in the pen. There is NO WAY he gets optioned....

[26 to 6]

Does anyone else think Andy Phillips looks a little bit like Tom Brady?

Just a little.

[TheRivernator]

Yankees Win Thahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Yankees Win!!!!

[26 to 6]

option proctor? He has arguably been our best pitcher in the pen. There is NO WAY he gets optioned....

Exactly. But he's the only one with any options that could be sent down. If not when Pavano comes back, then definately when Dotel comes back. I cant see the Yankees dropping two veteran pitchers in favor of a kid with options. Trust me, since I heard we were getting Proctor in the Robin Ventura deal I was thrilled, and i've been his number one supporter the past two years. But for business, thats the only thing that makes sense. Hopefully we can trade somebody for a decent prospect and solve this little matter, for now.

[26 to 6]

Yankees Win Thahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Yankees Win!!!!

On to Arlington, baby!

[CrespoBlows]

Thank You. It needed to be done.

 

 

Like I predicted he would. Keeps pitching good, by the time Pavano is ready Cashman and co. will be faced with a tough decision. DFA/Trade somebody else, or Option Proctor. Tough call.

 

 

So there is NO WAY the Yankee pitching can remain good, but Schilling and Beckett being lights out all year is a hands down guarantee?

 

God, you're a idiot. I didn't say that it was a guarantee, did I? Oh, wait I did. Because it won't f***ing happen.

 

You make an absolutely terrible point. How can you compare Curt Schilling, and Josh Beckett to those names on that list? Schilling, and Beckett are both potential Cy Young winners, and therefore it's whole lot less likely that they have a regression. You don't actually believe Proctor, (who was saved by Myers) will keep his ERA that low? He's a great mop-up guy, but you hail him as a potenial domiant reliever. There's just one major problem, HE LACKS CONTROL. 10 walks in 17 innings, that isn't good. Unless he becomes unhittable, his control problems will destroy him. Just run through your pitching staff, the ones with career numbers, are pitching way over their heads. Villone? His career ERA is 4.72, but 36 year old relievers suddenly become dominant, right?

[ORS]

I didn't want to have to do this...

 

Yankees - 4th best ERA in MLB (3.72)

Red Sox - 19th best ERA in MLB (4.69)

 

Yankees - 4th best WHIP in MLB (1.25)

Red Sox - 12th best WHIP in MLB (1.36)

And you probably should have saved yourself the trouble....

 

Yankees Opponents - 4.68 R/G, .323 OBP

Sox Opponents - 5.28 R/G, .343 OBP

 

The Yankees started the season with 12 games against the 4 lowest scoring/lowest OBP teams in the league, so it's no surprise they are allowing less runs and less base runners as a staff at this point.

 

EDIT: Typo, the Yankees opponents have averaged 4.68 R/G not 4.78.

[26 to 6]

God, you're a idiot. I didn't say that it was a guarantee, did I? Oh, wait I did. Because it won't f***ing happen.

 

You make an absolutely terrible point. How can you compare Curt Schilling, and Josh Beckett to those names on that list? Schilling, and Beckett are both potential Cy Young winners, and therefore it's whole lot less likely that they have a regression. You don't actually believe Proctor, (who was saved by Myers) will keep his ERA that low? He's a great mop-up guy, but you hail him as a potenial domiant reliever. There's just one major problem, HE LACKS CONTROL. 10 walks in 17 innings, that isn't good. Unless he becomes unhittable, his control problems will destroy him. Just run through your pitching staff, the ones with career numbers, are pitching way over their heads. Villone? His career ERA is 4.72, but 36 year old relievers suddenly become dominant, right?

Trust me, I am well aware that the liklihood of the Yankees pitching continuing on like this is slim. However, the Sox fans are always quick to state that and then play the opposite hand when it comes to them. Both Beckett and Schilling were injured last year. Maybe something comes up and nags them. That's all i'm saying. I'm tired of the Yankee pitching, which has been better up to this point, getting bashed while the Red Sox pitching staff is always being praised and having excuses made for them when they falter.

[CrespoBlows]

Trust me, I am well aware that the liklihood of the Yankees pitching continuing on like this is slim. However, the Sox fans are always quick to state that and then play the opposite hand when it comes to them. Both Beckett and Schilling were injured last year. Maybe something comes up and nags them. That's all i'm saying. I'm tired of the Yankee pitching, which has been better up to this point, getting bashed while the Red Sox pitching staff is always being praised and having excuses made for them when they falter.

 

Schilling's injury was his ankle, and it never was chronic. Beckett's move to a colder climate, with less humidity should help his blisters. He hasn't had any problems so far.

 

So, you're banking on injury to derail, the Red Sox pitching staff? 'Cause, that's what it seemed like your saying.

[26 to 6]

Schilling's injury was his ankle, and it never was chronic. Beckett's move to a colder climate, with less humidity should help his blisters. He hasn't had any problems so far.

 

So, you're banking on injury to derail, the Red Sox pitching staff? 'Cause, that's what it seemed like your saying.

No, I was just saying it's a possibility. But s***, as long as Seanez and Foulke are in that pen, I could care less how well the starters do. We can just tear up the bullpen.

[CrespoBlows]

No, I was just saying it's a possibility. But s***, as long as Seanez amd Foulke are in that oen, I could care less how well the starters do. We can just tear up the bullpen.

 

Foulke- .89 WHIP 4.26 ERA 16 K's in 18 IP

 

Take it back. Now.

 

As for Seanez, well good ole' Rudy, won't be trotting out of that bullpen in a close game.

[riverside sluggers]

No, I was just saying it's a possibility. But s***, as long as Seanez and Foulke are in that pen, I could care less how well the starters do. We can just tear up the bullpen.

 

Im sure you mean Rudy & Tavarez. Foulke is not the same pitcher that you saw in 2005, he's been effective especially against lefties. Look for Tito to call on him if the situation calls to get out the likes of Damon, Matsui, or Giambi.

[TheRivernator]

Foulke- .89 WHIP 4.26 ERA 16 K's in 18 IP

 

Take it back. Now.

 

As for Seanez, well good ole' Rudy, won't be trotting out of that bullpen in a close game.

 

take what back? 4.26 ERA and coming off a blown game in crunch time? If you think Foulke is automatic out of the pen against us, you are fooling yourselves....

[TheRivernator]

Exactly. But he's the only one with any options that could be sent down. If not when Pavano comes back, then definately when Dotel comes back. I cant see the Yankees dropping two veteran pitchers in favor of a kid with options. Trust me, since I heard we were getting Proctor in the Robin Ventura deal I was thrilled, and i've been his number one supporter the past two years. But for business, thats the only thing that makes sense. Hopefully we can trade somebody for a decent prospect and solve this little matter, for now.

 

Absolutely not. Pavano will come back in a couple week. We should get about 3-4 starts otu of him before we see what he can give us. At the same time, we'll have small out of long relief and will get a chance to see what he can do. Wright has from now until mid-may to show that he belongs on this team. Remember, he can be a FA after this yr.....

[Mr Crunchy]

good to see you still counting on pavano mj

hes a gamer eh??

out a year with tendonitis and this latest episode of a bruised ass??

what a stud and at a mere 10m per??

 

nice effort by the yanks last nite to fill out the 3 team parlay

their bullpen is pitching well,they have to if they want to contend

[Mr Crunchy]

Schilling's injury was his ankle, and it never was chronic. Beckett's move to a colder climate, with less humidity should help his blisters. He hasn't had any problems so far.

 

So, you're banking on injury to derail, the Red Sox pitching staff? 'Cause, that's what it seemed like your saying.

 

ha

they were banking on getting doug mirabelli but they dont obsess too much over us now do they

scott proctor??

come on

jarret wright??

yaaa theres a career loser accept for 1 great evening in the bronx 9 years ago

rj looks spent but he got off to a shaky start last year,did well thru the dog days then tanked it in the big boy show

mussina is decent,his #s werent any better than arroyos last year,this year he looks a bit better but see the above comments on rj regarding the october efforts

 

the yanks will win their share of games with their bats,theyre that good

their pitching needs serious serious help if they intend to play into october

 

scott proctor??

here scott go get out papi as mike meyers cant get it done

jesus christ almighty do you all live in the land of oz like this kid does?

[jsinger121]

take what back? 4.26 ERA and coming off a blown game in crunch time? If you think Foulke is automatic out of the pen against us, you are fooling yourselves....

 

Do you realize ERA is often overrated as a stat especially for a reliever? Outside of like 2 or 3 bad appearances Foulke has been solid but you fail to look at that

[rician blast]

I've got to laugh at the title of this post.

 

What it made me think of is we're down the little league field a few nights ago and a kid on my team, a Sox fan, has a 2004 Sox WS Champs hat on. Another kid on the team, a Yankee fans, walks up to him, reads the hat and says"25 to 1".

 

The Sox fan says "what?" Yank fans says "25 to 1".

 

Sox fan dismisses Yank fan like the punk he is and the Yankee fan says "we've won 25 WS and you've won 1. I just started laughing as the Sox fan explained that the Yanks had won 26 titles, all of them coming between the Sox last two WS titles and that it's not 25 to 1 or 26 to 1, etc.

 

And seeing the title of this thread made me think....that Yankee fan someday will figure it all out...and he can be another annoying little pimple-of-a-man like Rivernator and spend his time as a Yankee fan in a Sox forum, reminding Sox fans of the success of the franchise from the Bronx as a means of dealing with his own's dissapointments in life, which based upon his posts, I am guessing are quite numerous.

 

Yes. It's not so hard to see the future sometimes.

[TheRivernator]

good to see you still counting on pavano mj

hes a gamer eh??

out a year with tendonitis and this latest episode of a bruised ass??

what a stud and at a mere 10m per??

 

nice effort by the yanks last nite to fill out the 3 team parlay

their bullpen is pitching well,they have to if they want to contend

 

I never said he was a gamer seano, in fact he is a f***ing drippy vagina. But, we do have to hope he can give us something. Wright had two starts so far, but I wasnt very impressed. Small has looked very rusty to this point with his command and he isnt ready to start. Pavano has to be the answer or else we look outside the organization.

[TheRivernator]

I've got to laugh at the title of this post.

 

What it made me think of is we're down the little league field a few nights ago and a kid on my team, a Sox fan, has a 2004 Sox WS Champs hat on. Another kid on the team, a Yankee fans, walks up to him, reads the hat and says"25 to 1".

 

The Sox fan says "what?" Yank fans says "25 to 1".

 

Sox fan dismisses Yank fan like the punk he is and the Yankee fan says "we've won 25 WS and you've won 1. I just started laughing as the Sox fan explained that the Yanks had won 26 titles, all of them coming between the Sox last two WS titles and that it's not 25 to 1 or 26 to 1, etc.

 

And seeing the title of this thread made me think....that Yankee fan someday will figure it all out...and he can be another annoying little pimple-of-a-man like Rivernator and spend his time as a Yankee fan in a Sox forum, reminding Sox fans of the success of the franchise from the Bronx as a means of dealing with his own's dissapointments in life, which based upon his posts, I am guessing are quite numerous.

 

Yes. It's not so hard to see the future sometimes.

 

I'll tell you what rician. I wont make that same mistake. I know the history of the game probably a whole lot better than you. BTW, my life is not disappointing at all and to say so is rather funny. What do you do? Seeing as you are counting on my many disappointments, I was wondering how terribly awful your life/occupation must be....

[a700hitter]

Such a ridiculous thread name! There are barely any Yankee Champions on this team. Let's face it, the current roster has as many guys (4) with Boston and Florida Championship rings as guys with Yankee rings. Of the four Yankees ex-champs, Posada and Bernie are well over the hill, and if Yankee fans take off their rose-colored glasses they will notice that PD has lost a step.