Wang looked great

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Yeah, Ichiro is a terrible offensive player.

You're joking, right?

 

It's April 16th folks. A rough first two weeks doesnt mean much in the long run. Ichiro is a solid player, and IMO the best offensive weapon in the game, and possibly the best all around player in the game.

[CrespoBlows]

Schilling and Beckett have track records. Wang doesn't.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

The Mariners have two of the elite hitters in the league-- Ichiro and Sexson. There new catcher is really good too. Their order is far superior to the Twinkies.

I dont think you can be "elite" when you strike out around 150+ times a year.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

It was how ever encouraging seeing Wang strike out 8. Regardless of the team last year Wang wasnt striking out anyone really.

[CrespoBlows]

Do you think that was an abberation?

[CrespoBlows]

I dont think you can be "elite" when you strike out around 150+ times a year.

 

When you're a .263/.366/.541/.910 hitter. You're elite. Throwing up 39 HR's to go along with 90 walks is a pretty good addition.

[TheRivernator]

Schilling and Beckett have track records. Wang doesn't.

 

all 3 have the track record of having injuries...

[CrespoBlows]

all 3 have the track record of having injuries...

 

Umm... I don't think we were talking about that. We were talking about performance.

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all 3 have the track record of having injuries...

It's a shame Wang was hurt so much during his minor league career, Could have made it upp sooner and could possibly be a top pitcher by now.

 

Shoulder, right?

[TheRivernator]

Umm... I don't think we were talking about that. We were talking about performance.

 

I know, just f***ing with you....

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

When you're a .263/.366/.541/.910 hitter. You're elite. Throwing up 39 HR's to go along with 90 walks is a pretty good addition.

I consider elite to be a top 5 player. Hes not a top 5 player. Not even close.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Do you think that was an abberation?

Its possible I never said it wasnt.

[CrespoBlows]

I consider elite to be a top 5 player. Hes not a top 5 player. Not even close.

 

But you'd agree that he's a very good player, no?

[empirestrikesback26]

He's a very good player. I'd have him in the top 50 at most though.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

But you'd agree that he's a very good player, no?

Yeah I guess I could agree with that. I looked at his career stats and he is better then I give him credit for.

[a700hitter]

You're joking, right?

 

It's April 16th folks. A rough first two weeks doesnt mean much in the long run. Ichiro is a solid player, and IMO the best offensive weapon in the game, and possibly the best all around player in the game.

Yes, I was joking. I called him an elite offensive player in a prior post.

[a700hitter]

I dont think you can be "elite" when you strike out around 150+ times a year.

Look at his productivity. Sexson is an elite offensive player. He just hasn't been noticed playing in Seattle, Milwaukee and Arizona. BTW Alex the Great struck out 139 times last year and 131 the year before. You are so owned.

[ksushi]

I don't know if Wang has the skill set to ever be 'dominant' but I like his stuff. He'll get a good deal of ground ball outs, but he isn't going to blow away the competition. He will probably be very dependable, dominant might be the wrong d-word.

[TheRivernator]

I don't know if Wang has the skill set to ever be 'dominant' but I like his stuff. He'll get a good deal of ground ball outs, but he isn't going to blow away the competition. He will probably be very dependable, dominant might be the wrong d-word.

 

I dunno, we shall see. He has dominant stuff. His slider today was nasty and if he ever does develop a penchant for K's, it will have to be his K pitch. His sinker is something else too, but his 3rd pitch, change, is a minus pitch. I think he does not have the dominant mentality, ie, he is okay with throwing less pitches and allowing contact. When he gets going, he will average less than 10 pitches an inning...

[Cityofchampions33]

Its too early in Wang' career to peg him as anything, he could end up being average-worse or good-great. Same goes wiith anyone his age.

[Cityofchampions33]

Sox still have a better rotation, but the yankees have such a better lineup that it makes up for it.

 

good pitching beats good hitting

 

btw, why do you still have Pedro ina Yankee uniform as your avatar?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Look at his productivity. Sexson is an elite offensive player. He just hasn't been noticed playing in Seattle, Milwaukee and Arizona. BTW Alex the Great struck out 139 times last year and 131 the year before. You are so owned.

Please tell me your not comparing Alex Rodriguez to Richie Sexson. This could be quite possibly the dumbiest post of all time. A-rod has 81 OPS points on Sexson career wise. NUFF SAID........A-Rod, Pujols, Manny, Vlad, Bonds all elite. Sexson is on the next level below. Alot of people have a tendency to lump the very good in with the truly great. The people I mentioned above all one day will end up in the HOF thus the elite status. Does Richie Sexson still belong in that group? You didnt own anybody....what you did was put your foot in your mouth.

[empirestrikesback26]

139 K's and an MVP? I'll take it!

[empirestrikesback26]

good pitching beats good hitting

 

btw, why do you still have Pedro ina Yankee uniform as your avatar?

Because pedro is the man, and he looks good in pinstripes.

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Umm... I don't think we were talking about that. We were talking about performance.

Yeah, but injury history factors into performance. Look at last year. I could have gone out and done a better job than Schilling...and i'm not even a pitcher.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

139 K's and an MVP? I'll take it!

Yeah really, I know sox fans hate A-Rod but to compare A-Rod to Richie Sexson is utterly stupid.

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Because pedro is the man, and he looks good in pinstripes.

I think he's somehwhat comparable to Andy Petitte. Doesnt throw hard, but knows how to pitch and use his weapons. And both came up through the Yankee system

 

Because pedro is the man, and he looks good in pinstripes.

You are aware that the right half of your Pedro's uniform is completely f***ed up, right? I'm sure you could have found a better doctored pic of Pedro in pinstripes.

[empirestrikesback26]

I think he's somehwhat comparable to Andy Petitte. Doesnt throw hard, but knows how to pitch and use his weapons. And both came up through the Yankee system

 

 

You are aware that the right half of your Pedro's uniform is completely f***ed up, right? I'm sure you could have found a better doctored pic of Pedro in pinstripes.

Yeah, but I like it that way. Gives it character.

 

Pedro came up with the yankees? I always thought he came up with the dodgers.

[ORS]

Please tell me your not comparing Alex Rodriguez to Richie Sexson. This could be quite possibly the dumbiest post of all time. A-rod has 81 OPS points on Sexson career wise. NUFF SAID........A-Rod, Pujols, Manny, Vlad, Bonds all elite. Sexson is on the next level below. Alot of people have a tendency to lump the very good in with the truly great. The people I mentioned above all one day will end up in the HOF thus the elite status. Does Richie Sexson still belong in that group? You didnt own anybody....what you did was put your foot in your mouth.

Don't twist your arm patting yourself on the back while the point goes completely over your head. Your knock on Sexson not being elite was his high K total. ARod is elite and strikes out a lot too, as most sluggers do, thus your knock on Sexson is invalidated. He does not compare ARod to Sexson, he shows the hole in your logic.

[ORS]

Pedro came up with the yankees? I always thought he came up with the dodgers.

I think he means Wang, but quoted the wrong post. It takes light emitted from the Andy Pettitte Galaxy at least 5 or 6 light years to reach the Pedro Martinez Galaxy.