Epstein makes his worst trade yet !!!

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You are right. It was not this one move that ruined the season. It was a series of poor decisions for the past 2 years. This team was poorly constructed from the beginning, and the FO has sat with a pat hand even after that became obvious.

 

Yes, I root for the Red Sox, but I am not a fan of the FO, because as far as I know, they don't play any games. I am sorry if you are a fan of the FO, because that must be very boring.<_>

 

Like you said, The FO doesnt play games, players do. Its not Theos fault that he brings people to Boston with track records, and they stick their tail between their legs and suck ass, or get hurt. Theo brings in successful players, and they lay down. Its not like he brings in garbage heap players. Theo doesnt control injuries, he doesnt control mental breakdowns, and he doesnt control players inability to succeed in Boston.

 

Theo has brought in some pretty good names, and for whatever reason they are not succeeding. Theo does not control that.

[a700hitter]

Like you said, The FO doesnt play games, players do. Its not Theos fault that he brings people to Boston with track records, and they stick their tail between their legs and suck ass, or get hurt. Theo brings in successful players, and they lay down. Its not like he brings in garbage heap players. Theo doesnt control injuries, he doesnt control mental breakdowns, and he doesnt control players inability to succeed in Boston.

 

Theo has brought in some pretty good names, and for whatever reason they are not succeeding. Theo does not control that.

Sorry dude, but many of us here knew that Seanez and Tavarez and Clement were sacks of s*** before they ever put on the Red Sox uniform. We knew that Jason Johnson is a sack of s*** with the worst winning % in history. Is that the type of track record you are talking about? If we knew it, Theo should have known it. He also should've known that Johnny Damon and Pedro could still play. The FO put the team together. They take the blame, not the players.

 

BTW Damon and Pedro are on first place teams. I wonder if that's just a coincidence.

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Sorry dude, but many of us here knew that Seanez and Tavarez and Clement were sacks of s*** before they ever put on the Red Sox uniform. We knew that Jason Johnson is a sack of s*** with the worst winning % in history. Is that the type of track record you are talking about? If we knew it, Theo should have known it. He also should've known that Johnny Damon and Pedro could still play. The FO put the team together. They take the blame, not the players.

 

BTW Damon and Pedro are on first place teams. I wonder if that's just a coincidence.

 

A simple search shows that:

 

Seanez signing thread:

http://www.talksox.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5012&highlight=Rudy+Seanez

 

Julian Tavarez signing thread:

http://www.talksox.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5186&highlight=sign+Julian+Tavarez

 

Both of which have track records.

 

It appears that actually, a lot of people were happy with the signings if you do a little reading. Nobody expected Johnson to succeed, and was a desperation signing because Wells, Wake, and CLement are hurt.

 

The Pedro AND Damon points of yours are moot, because the FO never said they couldnt play. It was value and actually Pedro is appearing to fall off this season, so who knows what happens with him next year. We got Crisp to play center, and he is much younger and is the future in CF. We were competing with the Yankees for Damon, and generally when we compete with the Yankees for a player....we lose (Mussina, Pavano, Contreras, Arod). The Sox FO doesnt throw money around like them, and I cant say I blame them.

 

You are talking for yourself, and not the opinion of the board. Look at the threads and you will see that many people were indeed happy with the signings of Tavarez and Seanez.

[a700hitter]

A simple search shows that:

 

Seanez signing thread:

http://www.talksox.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5012&highlight=Rudy+Seanez

 

Julian Tavarez signing thread:

http://www.talksox.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5186&highlight=sign+Julian+Tavarez

 

Both of which have track records.

 

It appears that actually, a lot of people were happy with the signings if you do a little reading. Nobody expected Johnson to succeed, and was a desperation signing because Wells, Wake, and CLement are hurt.

 

The Pedro AND Damon points of yours are moot, because the FO never said they couldnt play. It was value and actually Pedro is appearing to fall off this season, so who knows what happens with him next year. We got Crisp to play center, and he is much younger and is the future in CF. We were competing with the Yankees for Damon, and generally when we compete with the Yankees for a player....we lose (Mussina, Pavano, Contreras, Arod). The Sox FO doesnt throw money around like them, and I cant say I blame them.

 

You are talking for yourself, and not the opinion of the board. Look at the threads and you will see that many people were indeed happy with the signings of Tavarez and Seanez.

I read the threads. I'm not surprised that the same FO apologists and cheer leaders were cheering back then. They looked at the numbers and were happy the team was making moves. Largely these threads were about CF and Coco Crisp. There was dissent. Some posters looked behind the numbers to point out that Tavarez was a Psycho and that Seanez was unaccomplished. I remember other criticisms of these two on other threads. My point is that the FO should have known. If people on these and other boards were questioning the moves, the FO should have known. Seanez' track record in the AL was not good. Tavarez track record was spotty at best.

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I read the threads. I'm not surprised that the same FO apologists and cheer leaders were cheering back then. They looked at the numbers and were happy the team was making moves. Largely these threads were about CF and Coco Crisp. There was dissent. Some posters looked behind the numbers to point out that Tavarez was a Psycho and that Seanez was unaccomplished. I remember other criticisms of these two on other threads. My point is that the FO should have known. If people on these and other boards were questioning the moves, the FO should have known. Seanez' track record in the AL was not good. Tavarez track record was spotty at best.

 

Tavarez AL track record included a 5+ ERA in the AL in his career.