WM Pena

[Whos Your Papi]

To answer my own question....

 

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July 15, 1998: Signed by the New York Mets as an amateur free agent.

 

February 28, 1999: Free agent signing by the New York Mets voided.

 

April 5, 1999: Signed as a Free Agent with the New York Yankees.

 

March 21, 2001: Traded by the New York Yankees to the Cincinnati Reds for Drew Henson and Michael Coleman.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/penawi01.shtml

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I hear from someone that Willy Mo is who the Yankees traded to get Drew Henson, anyone know if that is true?

 

My opinion on WMP, is give him time. We all knew he would K alot, he's young and talented and has yet to get 400 AB's at the MLB level.

You hear correctly.

[The Monster is my Mom]

I think WMP will be a great player someday. The problem is do we really want a project when we are a team that wants to contend for the World Series?? Like last night when he was up at bat with guys on base and he struck out in 4 pitches. He needs alot more patience up there.

[MC Hammer]

I think WMP will be a great player someday. The problem is do we really want a project when we are a team that wants to contend for the World Series?? Like last night when he was up at bat with guys on base and he struck out in 4 pitches. He needs alot more patience up there.

Would you rather be the Yankees and go out and buy a few new 32+ year old guys every year? Or take a chance on a young guy who could be the next great hitter?

 

It's not like we got Wily to be an every day guy.

[TheRivernator]

I think WMP will be a great player someday. The problem is do we really want a project when we are a team that wants to contend for the World Series?? Like last night when he was up at bat with guys on base and he struck out in 4 pitches. He needs alot more patience up there.

 

No, the problem is that Wily Mo needs to be an everyday player and in Cincy and in Boston he didnt or wont get that chance. He ius 24 right now, but has platooned for 3 consecutive yrs. If he could have been in a place where he started for the last 3 yrs, he'd likely be much better. He f***ed himself though by requring a MLB contract from day 1....

[Varitek33]

Would you rather be the Yankees and go out and buy a few new 32+ year old guys every year? Or take a chance on a young guy who could be the next great hitter?

 

It's not like we got Wily to be an every day guy.[/QUOTE]

 

true

[tarum]

wmp is not in the reds or tampa bay or kansas city...

he is in the RED SOX.

you can stirke out on those team hundred times and get experience but noy in Red Sox.

this is not that kind of team.

if your payroll is second payroll in the mlb, your player should get the experience in the other team not here.

[billmueller11]

the problem with whiffen willy moe is hes a all or nothing guy .you get the hr every now and then and you get all the kkkks and lousy defense . you dont get any productive outs no moving the runners over no sac flys .

[ORS]

wmp is not in the reds or tampa bay or kansas city...

he is in the RED SOX.

you can stirke out on those team hundred times and get experience but noy in Red Sox.

this is not that kind of team.

if your payroll is second payroll in the mlb, your player should get the experience in the other team not here.

Anybody translate stupid? I can't figure out what this says.

[billmueller11]

Anybody translate stupid? I can't figure out what this says.

just let it go

[CrespoBlows]

I think you need help letting go your obession with the old guard.

 

I don't see why you are so opposed to getting rid of a league average pitcher, with a declining K/9 rate for a player who has the potential to be a .260/.330/.500 hitter. If this risk pays off, they got a middle of the order hitter for the next 10 years. If not, we just gave up a league average pitcher, who was making four million dollars pitching out of the bullpen.

[TheRivernator]

I think you need help letting go your obession with the old guard.

 

I don't see why you are so opposed to getting rid of a league average pitcher, with a declining K/9 rate for a player who has the potential to be a .260/.330/.500 hitter. If this risk pays off, they got a middle of the order hitter for the next 10 years. If not, we just gave up a league average pitcher, who was making four million dollars pitching out of the bullpen.

 

He does not have the potential of a .330 OBP if his avg is .260. More like a .300OBP with a .260avg. The kid cannot lay off anything from nose to toes...

[CrespoBlows]

He does not have the potential of a .330 OBP if his avg is .260. More like a .300OBP with a .260avg. The kid cannot lay off anything from nose to toes...

 

That's his potential. With a .248 BA throughout his career. He has a .304 OBP. If he learns to lay off those pitches, he'll improve. Right now, he's probably a .300 OBP guy. But, if he has a Jesse Barfield like jump in his production, (PETCO has his number one similarity listing as Barfield) then his OBP will unquestionly rise.

[Cityofchampions33]

Evern with time he'll learn to lay-off pitches just through experience, only thing is he'll need the playing time, which he can't get because he was sigend so young. So really he was rushed into the Majors and he already ahs 40 HR potential, so give him time and ABs and he could possibley reach what he coulv'e been if he wasn't thrown into the show.

[Sizzlin22]

the problem with whiffen willy moe is hes a all or nothing guy .you get the hr every now and then and you get all the kkkks and lousy defense . you dont get any productive outs no moving the runners over no sac flys .

He's 24 years old, he needs to learn to hit top pitching. Clearly you've never heard of a thing called "player development". You're a typical "fan" with no knowlegde of baseball.

 

Cal Ripken did s***** when he first broke into the league too, the O's jsut should have dumped the s***** hiutter because we all know: how you do when you enter the league is how you will do your entire career.

[billmueller11]

I think you need help letting go your obession with the old guard.

 

I don't see why you are so opposed to getting rid of a league average pitcher, with a declining K/9 rate for a player who has the potential to be a .260/.330/.500 hitter. If this risk pays off, they got a middle of the order hitter for the next 10 years. If not, we just gave up a league average pitcher, who was making four million dollars pitching out of the bullpen.

im not obsessed with letting go with the old guard and i wasnt opposed to trading bronson .i just dont like what they got in return for him .i dont think whiffen willy has the potential you do .remember you never have enough pitching never .

[Sizzlin22]

im not obsessed with letting go with the old guard and i wasnt opposed to trading bronson .i just dont like what they got in return for him .i dont think whiffen willy has the potential you do .remember you never have enough pitching never .

WE HAVE ENOUGH PITCHING!! Look at our rotation!

 

Schilling

Wake

Burnett

Clement

Wells

 

If anyone goes down we have Papelbon.. If anyone else goes down then we would be screwed anyways.

 

As far as the Bullpen goes we have about 10 million options there. We traded an ageing pitcher who wouldn't have been in the rotation for a 24 year old with LOADS of potential, once Papa Jack (In my opinon the best betting coach in baseball) gets a hold of him he will turn into a very good player.

[billmueller11]

He's 24 years old, he needs to learn to hit top pitching. Clearly you've never heard of a thing called "player development". You're a typical "fan" with no knowlegde of baseball.

 

Cal Ripken did s***** when he first broke into the league too, the O's jsut should have dumped the s***** hiutter because we all know: how you do when you enter the league is how you will do your entire career.

your a typical fan who gets a boner over a home run you dont have anymore knowledge than anybody else .i guess you would have us believe that anybody who doesnt agree with you has no knowledge of baseball .ive played more baseball in a week than you have your entire life .ripken could play defense whiffen willy cant .not all players develope .

[ORS]

develope .

Home, home on the range

Where the deer and the develope play....

 

People that have a hard time with something basic like the english language are hard to take seriously.

[billmueller11]

WE HAVE ENOUGH PITCHING!! Look at our rotation!

 

Schilling

Wake

Burnett

Clement

Wells

 

If anyone goes down we have Papelbon.. If anyone else goes down then we would be screwed anyways.

 

As far as the Bullpen goes we have about 10 million options there. We traded an ageing pitcher who wouldn't have been in the rotation for a 24 year old with LOADS of potential, once Papa Jack (In my opinon the best betting coach in baseball) gets a hold of him he will turn into a very good player.

thanks for making my point .clement could take his nose dive after the all star break like he has his entire career. wells is 43 he could go down at any time . beckett as much as i love the guy cant seam to hold up for a entire year . so no you never have enough pitching and our bull pen would look alot better with bronson in it because there are still alot of ? marks in that pen .

[billmueller11]

Home, home on the range

Where the deer and the develope play....

 

People that have a hard time with something basic like the english language are hard to take seriously.

lol lol ok .i was spending all my time playing sports growing up while you were in english class lol lol .your one of those stat geeks who never picked up a bat in your life and you dont take me serious lol lol .dont forget to check my spelling lol i wonder how willy moe spells lol

[KeepTheFaith1229]

lol lol ok .i was spending all my time playing sports growing up while you were in english class lol lol .your one of those stat geeks who never picked up a bat in your life and you dont take me serious lol lol .dont forget to check my spelling lol i wonder how willy moe spells lol

 

lol

[TheRivernator]

lol lol ok .i was spending all my time playing sports growing up while you were in english class lol lol .your one of those stat geeks who never picked up a bat in your life and you dont take me serious lol lol .dont forget to check my spelling lol i wonder how willy moe spells lol

 

Mr JV strikes again...

[ORS]

lol lol ok .i was spending all my time playing sports growing up while you were in english class lol lol .your one of those stat geeks who never picked up a bat in your life and you dont take me serious lol lol .dont forget to check my spelling lol i wonder how willy moe spells lol

So typical of the meathead. You are stupid, so therefore, in order to justify your stupidity, you have to consider all intelligent people to be pencil necked geeks. Sorry, not the case here. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep soundly though.

 

Back on topic. I don't see why you think Bronson Arroyo was such a big hit to this team's BP. They have a left handed version of him in Lenny DiNardo. Actually, Lenny is better suited to be the LRP in Fenway because he keeps the ball on the ground very well, something Bronson always struggled with. Face it, Bronson Arroyo was a declining league average pitcher who got hammered by lefties and was proned to giving up the long ball (still is, he gave up two in his opener in his new bandbox ballpark). I can understand being upset with the FO for acquiring a project player if they gave up a key component to the '06 team or a decent prospect, but they didn't.

[CrespoBlows]

lol lol ok .i was spending all my time playing sports growing up while you were in english class lol lol .your one of those stat geeks who never picked up a bat in your life and you dont take me serious lol lol .dont forget to check my spelling lol i wonder how willy moe spells lol

 

wrd. bronson pwns. i def h8te willey moee pana. he def suks. ne way did u see bronso? he pwns. i luv his crn rows.

[billmueller11]

So typical of the meathead. You are stupid, so therefore, in order to justify your stupidity, you have to consider all intelligent people to be pencil necked geeks. Sorry, not the case here. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep soundly though.

 

Back on topic. I don't see why you think Bronson Arroyo was such a big hit to this team's BP. They have a left handed version of him in Lenny DiNardo. Actually, Lenny is better suited to be the LRP in Fenway because he keeps the ball on the ground very well, something Bronson always struggled with. Face it, Bronson Arroyo was a declining league average pitcher who got hammered by lefties and was proned to giving up the long ball (still is, he gave up two in his opener in his new bandbox ballpark). I can understand being upset with the FO for acquiring a project player if they gave up a key component to the '06 team or a decent prospect, but they didn't.

are you for real or what? your like a two year old who doesnt get his way and throws a temper tantrum.you cant stand when people dont agree with you so you start with the personel insults .lol what are you ten years old ?your a hypocrite i spelled some words wrong so any thing i say cant be taken serious lol lol . i bet there is alot of things you dont understand but ill try again .I DONT LIKE WHAT THE FO GOT FOR BRONSON .I THINK WHIFFEN WILLY MOE SUCKS [PLEASE DONT GET MAD]I DONT THINK THE REDS SHARE YOUR OPINION ON WILLY BLOWS OR WHY WOULD THEY GIVE HIM UP FOR SUCH A s***** PLAYER LIKE BRONSON [sO YOU SAY] .GOD I HOPE I DIDNT SPELL ANY WORDS WRONG .:dunno:

[TheRivernator]

wrd. bronson pwns. i def h8te willey moee pana. he def suks. ne way did u see bronso? he pwns. i luv his crn rows.

 

hahaha....

 

http://www.dairyfarmersguild.com/pwned.gif

[CrespoBlows]

thanks for making my point .clement could take his nose dive after the all star break like he has his entire career. wells is 43 he could go down at any time . beckett as much as i love the guy cant seam to hold up for a entire year . so no you never have enough pitching and our bull pen would look alot better with bronson in it because there are still alot of ? marks in that pen .

 

If that happened, then I don't think Bronson Arroyo would be the answer to that. You'd need divine intervention to stop that downfall. But, just for the sake of argument, let's say that we are hit with injuries to that amount.

 

The Red Sox have plenty of viable options who make much less, and have equal or more upside then Arroyo. Jonathan Papelbon, could easily step in and be a very good starting pitcher. Lenny Dinardo, could equal Arroyo's numbers as a starter. Jon Lester whom could be ready by July, has way higher upside then Arroyo.

 

It's not often, you're offered outfielders with 35 HR power potential for a fifth starter. Even if Pena never improves his OBP skills, he's still a great fourth outfielder, who mashes lefties.

 

What happened was a f***ing miracle, and I want you to acknowledge it.

[TheRivernator]

are you for real or what? your like a two year old who doesnt get his way and throws a temper tantrum.you cant stand when people dont agree with you so you start with the personel insults .lol what are you ten years old ?your a hypocrite i spelled some words wrong so any thing i say cant be taken serious lol lol . i bet there is alot of things you dont understand but ill try again .I DONT LIKE WHAT THE FO GOT FOR BRONSON .I THINK WHIFFEN WILLY MOE SUCKS [PLEASE DONT GET MAD]I DONT THINK THE REDS SHARE YOUR OPINION ON WILLY BLOWS OR WHY WOULD THEY GIVE HIM UP FOR SUCH A s***** PLAYER LIKE BRONSON [sO YOU SAY] .GOD I HOPE I DIDNT SPELL ANY WORDS WRONG .:dunno:

 

http://blogs.sun.com/roller/resources/rama/santa-says-you-suck.jpg

[CrespoBlows]

are you for real or what? your like a two year old who doesnt get his way and throws a temper tantrum.you cant stand when people dont agree with you so you start with the personel insults .lol what are you ten years old ?your a hypocrite i spelled some words wrong so any thing i say cant be taken serious lol lol . i bet there is alot of things you dont understand but ill try again .I DONT LIKE WHAT THE FO GOT FOR BRONSON .I THINK WHIFFEN WILLY MOE SUCKS [PLEASE DONT GET MAD]I DONT THINK THE REDS SHARE YOUR OPINION ON WILLY BLOWS OR WHY WOULD THEY GIVE HIM UP FOR SUCH A s***** PLAYER LIKE BRONSON [sO YOU SAY] .GOD I HOPE I DIDNT SPELL ANY WORD WRONG .:dunno:

 

 

I really can't take ANYONE seriously who can't correctly place a period in the correct order.

 

As for hypocrites, didn't you launch the first attack when you called him a "geek", not really offensive, but it shows your obvious lack of understanding for the word, hypocrite.

 

Wait, let me write it so you can understand.

 

i rly cnt tkae ne serisly lol lol hoo cnt corect lol palce a pr.d lol ni teh corect order .

 

as for crites, didnt u launch teh f.rst tack whn u caled him gek not rly ofens shows ur lack of lol l.ol lol ha pwns brosnon raw/