Ortiz done with negotiating

TheRivernator · April 4, 2006

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/04/04/no_deal_yet_no_problem_for_ortiz/

no yankee spin here. Just read the article....

ORS · April 4, 2006

I hoped they would get this done this offseason, but they still have an option to pick up and next offseason to negotiate an extension. I'll reiterate what I've said all along. They should have the extension void the option and give Ortiz a big raise for '07 while locking him up for '08-'10. He's earned it, and he's the public face of the franchise. It's good PR for both the fans and other players in the league.

yeszir · April 4, 2006

Current negotiations or not, I am confident that David Ortiz will be on the Red Sox for at least the remainder of the decade.

Varitek33 · April 4, 2006

Current negotiations or not, I am confident that David Ortiz will be on the Red Sox for at least the remainder of the decade.

I hope your confidence comes true....

Cityofchampions33 · April 4, 2006

The FO can't screw up on this, it's ludacris to wait and see how he progresses, just give him a lock for the next 4-5 years.

tarum · April 5, 2006

Current negotiations or not, I am confident that David Ortiz will be on the Red Sox for at least the remainder of the decade.

i am not confident!

no, not for ortiz, i am sure he would like to stay here like arroyo.

but i am not confident for mr. big ego (theo)

he might trade him for something, hope not but will not a big surprise if he does.

because his ego is bigger then anything, he is mr. who knows everything

jsinger121 · April 5, 2006

i am not confident!
no, not for ortiz, i am sure he would like to stay here like arroyo.
but i am not confident for mr. big ego (theo)
he might trade him for something, hope not but will not a big surprise if he does.
because his ego is bigger then anything, he is mr. who knows everything

excuse me what ego? and he will get him signed because he is the franchise.

TheRivernator · April 5, 2006

i am not confident!
no, not for ortiz, i am sure he would like to stay here like arroyo.
but i am not confident for mr. big ego (theo)
he might trade him for something, hope not but will not a big surprise if he does.
because his ego is bigger then anything, he is mr. who knows everything

Theo did only craft a team that made the playoffs 3 straight yrs and won the WS for the first time in four score and six years. Have faith in the guy in that he will put a competitive team on the field, but do not make it look as if he is loyal, because he is not. The only thing I can think of is that Theo may be balking at giving a fat man a long term deal. Ortiz body can only last so long at that weight...

mtbykr · April 5, 2006

Theo did only craft a team that made the playoffs 3 straight yrs and won the WS for the first time in four score and six years. Have faith in the guy in that he will put a competitive team on the field, but do not make it look as if he is loyal, because he is not. The only thing I can think of is that Theo may be balking at giving a fat man a long term deal. Ortiz body can only last so long at that weight...

In case you haven't noticed he's a DH! I don't think his body weight will affect their decision.

kreinbihl34 · April 6, 2006

Theo did only craft a team that made the playoffs 3 straight yrs and won the WS for the first time in four score and six years. Have faith in the guy in that he will put a competitive team on the field, but do not make it look as if he is loyal, because he is not. The only thing I can think of is that Theo may be balking at giving a fat man a long term deal. Ortiz body can only last so long at that weight...

And you can only post for so long before people start thinking your a retard:harhar:

Ray10 · April 6, 2006

I hope the Sox can get a deal done with Ortiz he is too big a part of our lineup to loose him.

billmueller11 · April 6, 2006

I dont know why anybody would be confident when it comes to signing players to contracts .Not with all thats happened recently .pedro and damon come to mind.

redsoxrules · April 6, 2006

I dont know why anybody would be confident when it comes to signing players to contracts .Not with all thats happened recently .pedro and damon come to mind.

exactly , this deal should have been done allready

TheRivernator · April 6, 2006

In case you haven't noticed he's a DH! I don't think his body weight will affect their decision.

DH's dont hurt their back? Their knees dont go out on them just because they are a DH? Mo Vaughn was a DH in the latter part of his career and he broke down. Terrible argument on your part.....

ORS · April 6, 2006

DH's dont hurt their back? Their knees dont go out on them just because they are a DH? Mo Vaughn was a DH in the latter part of his career and he broke down. Terrible argument on your part.....

Mo Vaugh's demise started with him f***ing his ankle up while trying to field a foul-pop near the dugout. Terrible comparison on you part.....

TheRivernator · April 6, 2006

Mo Vaugh's demise started with him f***ing his ankle up while trying to field a foul-pop near the dugout. Terrible comparison on you part.....

His career ended because his knees were so arthritic that they nearly fused. His ankle cost him a yr, his weight cost him his career. Guys that big get accelerated arthritis formation causing them to have degenerative back and knee changes much more regularly than a skinny person. Just because he is a DH doesnt exempt him from that. It may slow the process a little because he is off his feet for half a game, but it doesnt mean he is immune. Remember, arthritis is not baseball unique, he is developing it just by walking around. I think anyone with a good pair of eyes can see that he is overweight and that is the biggest precursor of severe degenerative arthritis in the weight bearing joints....

jsinger121 · April 6, 2006

His career ended because his knees were so arthritic that they nearly fused. His ankle cost him a yr, his weight cost him his career. Guys that big get accelerated arthritis formation causing them to have degenerative back and knee changes much more regularly than a skinny person. Just because he is a DH doesnt exempt him from that. It may slow the process a little because he is off his feet for half a game, but it doesnt mean he is immune. Remember, arthritis is not baseball unique, he is developing it just by walking around. I think anyone with a good pair of eyes can see that he is overweight and that is the biggest precursor of severe degenerative arthritis in the weight bearing joints....

And that happened from the play in Anaheim. Do you even know what you are talking about.

ORS · April 6, 2006

His career ended because his knees were so arthritic that they nearly fused. His ankle cost him a yr, his weight cost him his career. Guys that big get accelerated arthritis formation causing them to have degenerative back and knee changes much more regularly than a skinny person. Just because he is a DH doesnt exempt him from that. It may slow the process a little because he is off his feet for half a game, but it doesnt mean he is immune. Remember, arthritis is not baseball unique, he is developing it just by walking around. I think anyone with a good pair of eyes can see that he is overweight and that is the biggest precursor of severe degenerative arthritis in the weight bearing joints....

All true, but Ortiz isn't anywhere near Vaugh's girth the last two years of his career. Sure, Ortiz is no svelte guy, but he isn't this big.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040108/040108_mo_vaughn_.vsmall.jpg

Mo was 34 and 35 when he played for the Mets. Ortiz is 30 this year, and if they extend him, it would be for his 31-34 age years. Provided he maintains his current size, I don't see this a big issue of concern, especially since he won't be adding stress to his knees by playing the field. Besides, even if he does experience similar problems, it will be worth a .260/.340/.450 with 26 homer line (Mo's age 34 year line) that last year to get what he's doing now for a few more years.

mtbykr · April 6, 2006

His career ended because his knees were so arthritic that they nearly fused. His ankle cost him a yr, his weight cost him his career. Guys that big get accelerated arthritis formation causing them to have degenerative back and knee changes much more regularly than a skinny person. Just because he is a DH doesnt exempt him from that. It may slow the process a little because he is off his feet for half a game, but it doesnt mean he is immune. Remember, arthritis is not baseball unique, he is developing it just by walking around. I think anyone with a good pair of eyes can see that he is overweight and that is the biggest precursor of severe degenerative arthritis in the weight bearing joints....

I don't even know where to start. Mo was much bigger than Ortiz to begin with. He also played every day. Now even if we accept your argument, Ortiz will be near 40 by time he has problems, and the sox extending him how for 5 years or so doesn't change that. I know you want the yanks to sign him and all--but come on!

TheRivernator · April 6, 2006

And that happened from the play in Anaheim. Do you even know what you are talking about.

Man you are thick. Can I jump on the ban jsinger bandwagon?? Just kidding. He tore ligaments in his ANKLE when he fell. His knee was uninjured on that play. He developed arthritis from being a fat ass and getting bigger as he aged....

He Hate Me · April 6, 2006

I don't even know where to start. Mo was much bigger than Ortiz to begin with. He also played every day. Now even if we accept your argument, Ortiz will be near 40 by time he has problems, and the sox extending him how for 5 years or so doesn't change that. I know you want the yanks to sign him and all--but come on!

They're playing weight is the same, 230 lbs.

Ortiz has 3 inches on vaughn though

a700hitter · April 6, 2006

They're playing weight is the same, 230 lbs.
Ortiz has 3 inches on vaughn though

That was Vaughn's listed weight, and it was most likely his Rookie weight. He was playing at 260-270 towards the end.

TheRivernator · April 6, 2006

That was Vaughn's listed weight, and it was most likely his Rookie weight. He was playing at 260-270 towards the end.

there is no way ortiz is 230, no way. Mo was close to 280, Ortiz is probably 260...

schillingouttheks · April 6, 2006

There is no way Ortiz is 230. I weigh 230. Ortiz is not me.

He Hate Me · April 6, 2006

There is no way Ortiz is 230. I weigh 230. Ortiz is not me.

I don't think Ortiz weighs 230 either. He carries his weight well, but I'd say it's closer to 250-260.

jsinger121 · April 10, 2006

It looks like the contract that was close to happening could be official today according to the Boston Herald.

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=134410

MC Hammer · April 10, 2006

Man you are thick. Can I jump on the ban jsinger bandwagon??

Yes we are still taking applications

nueva · April 10, 2006

NO!!!!!!!!!!!ortiz is gone!

element1151 · April 10, 2006

NO!!!!!!!!!!!ortiz is gone!

What are you smoking? How old are you, and have you ever watched a major league baseball game?

jsinger121 · April 10, 2006

The Red Sox have called a 3pm press conference at Fenway Park to announce the Ortiz signing.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/

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