What strings would you pull to make the 2006 Red Sox?

[jimmycarter05]

I just wondering what everyone on this site would do this off-season if they were the GM....what trades would you do and who would you sign? give me a lineup, bp, and pitching staff

[ACL BoSox]

Step 1: Trade Manny Ramirez

 

A proposed three-way deal between Oakland, New York Mets, and Boston Red Sox.

 

New York Mets recieve:

 

LF Manny Ramirez (from Red Sox)

RP Octavio Dotel (from A's)

 

Red Sox recieve:

 

SP Barry Zito (from A's)

CF Lastings Milledge (from Mets)

 

Oakland A's recieve:

 

SP Kris Benson (from Mets)

3B Kevin Youkilis (from Red Sox)

RF Victor Diaz (from Mets)

 

Step 2: Re-sign Johnny Damon

 

With Manny's salary out of the way, we have some spending money. Meet him half way, 4 years $40 million.

 

Step 3: Get a first baseman

 

Trade Bronson Arroyo (or Matt Clement) to the Brewers for 1B Lyle Overbay.

 

Step 4: Trade David Wells

 

He wants out, we don't need him, but we do need a 2B. Package Wells with Mirabelli, and send him to the Padres for 2B Mark Loretta and RP Scott Linebrink.

 

Step 5: Get Bobby Abreu

 

The Phillies don't want him, and we may have what it takes to get him. Trade SP Matt Clement, and RF Trot Nixon for RF Bobby Abreu.

 

Starting Rotation:

 

1. RHP Curt Schilling

2. LHP Barry Zito

3. RHP Josh Beckett

4. RHP Tim Wakefield

5. RHP Jonathan Papelbon

 

Bullpen:

 

1. RHP Keith Foulke (Closer)

2. RHP Guillermo Mota (Setup)

3. LHP Scott Linebrink

4. RHP Craig Hansen

5. RHP Mike Timlin

6. RHP Matt Mantei

 

Lineup:

 

1. CF Johnny Damon

2. SS Edgar Renteria

3. DH David Ortiz

4. RF Bobby Abreu

5. 1B Lyle Overbay

6. C Jason Varitek

7. 3B Mike Lowell

8. 2B Mark Loretta

9. LF Lastings Milledge

[schillingouttheks]

The Mets have already made it perfectly clear that they will not be trading Milledge.

[Cityofchampions33]

Step 1: Trade Manny Ramirez

 

A proposed three-way deal between Oakland, New York Mets, and Boston Red Sox.

 

New York Mets recieve:

 

LF Manny Ramirez (from Red Sox)

RP Octavio Dotel (from A's)

 

Red Sox recieve:

 

SP Barry Zito (from A's)

CF Lastings Milledge (from Mets)

 

Oakland A's recieve:

 

SP Kris Benson (from Mets)

3B Kevin Youkilis (from Red Sox)

RF Victor Diaz (from Mets)

 

Step 2: Re-sign Johnny Damon

 

With Manny's salary out of the way, we have some spending money. Meet him half way, 4 years $40 million.

 

Step 3: Get a first baseman

 

Trade Bronson Arroyo (or Matt Clement) to the Brewers for 1B Lyle Overbay.

 

Step 4: Trade David Wells

 

He wants out, we don't need him, but we do need a 2B. Package Wells with Mirabelli, and send him to the Padres for 2B Mark Loretta and RP Scott Linebrink.

 

Step 5: Get Bobby Abreu

 

The Phillies don't want him, and we may have what it takes to get him. Trade SP Matt Clement, and RF Trot Nixon for RF Bobby Abreu.

 

Starting Rotation:

 

1. RHP Curt Schilling

2. LHP Barry Zito

3. RHP Josh Beckett

4. RHP Tim Wakefield

5. RHP Jonathan Papelbon

 

Bullpen:

 

1. RHP Keith Foulke (Closer)

2. RHP Guillermo Mota (Setup)

3. LHP Scott Linebrink

4. RHP Craig Hansen

5. RHP Mike Timlin

6. RHP Matt Mantei

 

Lineup:

 

1. CF Johnny Damon

2. SS Edgar Renteria

3. DH David Ortiz

4. RF Bobby Abreu

5. 1B Lyle Overbay

6. C Jason Varitek

7. 3B Mike Lowell

8. 2B Mark Loretta

9. LF Lastings Milledge

 

Thats pretty friggin sweet, WS contenders for sho. Btw, is Milledge ready for the Majors?

[schillingouttheks]

The Mets have already made it perfectly clear that they will not be trading Milledge.

Oh, whoops, my bad. But still, I doubt that trade would get done for the reason above...

[ACL BoSox]

Let's be honest if you had the choice between Manny in LF and Milledge in LF, I don't think the choice would be that hard. Besides nobody knows what Milledge would do on a major league level, would make perfect sense for the Mets.

[RedSoxRooter]

Step 1: Trade Manny Ramirez

 

A proposed three-way deal between Oakland, New York Mets, and Boston Red Sox.

 

New York Mets recieve:

 

LF Manny Ramirez (from Red Sox)

RP Octavio Dotel (from A's)

 

Red Sox recieve:

 

SP Barry Zito (from A's)

CF Lastings Milledge (from Mets)

 

Oakland A's recieve:

 

SP Kris Benson (from Mets)

3B Kevin Youkilis (from Red Sox)

RF Victor Diaz (from Mets)

 

Step 2: Re-sign Johnny Damon

 

With Manny's salary out of the way, we have some spending money. Meet him half way, 4 years $40 million.

 

Step 3: Get a first baseman

 

Trade Bronson Arroyo (or Matt Clement) to the Brewers for 1B Lyle Overbay.

 

Step 4: Trade David Wells

 

He wants out, we don't need him, but we do need a 2B. Package Wells with Mirabelli, and send him to the Padres for 2B Mark Loretta and RP Scott Linebrink.

 

Step 5: Get Bobby Abreu

 

The Phillies don't want him, and we may have what it takes to get him. Trade SP Matt Clement, and RF Trot Nixon for RF Bobby Abreu.

 

Starting Rotation:

 

1. RHP Curt Schilling

2. LHP Barry Zito

3. RHP Josh Beckett

4. RHP Tim Wakefield

5. RHP Jonathan Papelbon

 

Bullpen:

 

1. RHP Keith Foulke (Closer)

2. RHP Guillermo Mota (Setup)

3. LHP Scott Linebrink

4. RHP Craig Hansen

5. RHP Mike Timlin

6. RHP Matt Mantei

 

Lineup:

 

1. CF Johnny Damon

2. SS Edgar Renteria

3. DH David Ortiz

4. RF Bobby Abreu

5. 1B Lyle Overbay

6. C Jason Varitek

7. 3B Mike Lowell

8. 2B Mark Loretta

9. LF Lastings Milledge

 

That is so sweet. I agree if we don't bring Manny back then Damon is a no-brainer. The Abreu signing is perfect.

[jimmycarter05]

Step 1: Trade Manny Ramirez

 

A proposed three-way deal between Oakland, New York Mets, and Boston Red Sox.

 

New York Mets recieve:

 

LF Manny Ramirez (from Red Sox)

RP Octavio Dotel (from A's)

 

Red Sox recieve:

 

SP Barry Zito (from A's)

CF Lastings Milledge (from Mets)

 

Oakland A's recieve:

 

SP Kris Benson (from Mets)

3B Kevin Youkilis (from Red Sox)

RF Victor Diaz (from Mets)

 

Step 2: Re-sign Johnny Damon

 

With Manny's salary out of the way, we have some spending money. Meet him half way, 4 years $40 million.

 

Step 3: Get a first baseman

 

Trade Bronson Arroyo (or Matt Clement) to the Brewers for 1B Lyle Overbay.

 

Step 4: Trade David Wells

 

He wants out, we don't need him, but we do need a 2B. Package Wells with Mirabelli, and send him to the Padres for 2B Mark Loretta and RP Scott Linebrink.

 

Step 5: Get Bobby Abreu

 

The Phillies don't want him, and we may have what it takes to get him. Trade SP Matt Clement, and RF Trot Nixon for RF Bobby Abreu.

 

Starting Rotation:

 

1. RHP Curt Schilling

2. LHP Barry Zito

3. RHP Josh Beckett

4. RHP Tim Wakefield

5. RHP Jonathan Papelbon

 

Bullpen:

 

1. RHP Keith Foulke (Closer)

2. RHP Guillermo Mota (Setup)

3. LHP Scott Linebrink

4. RHP Craig Hansen

5. RHP Mike Timlin

6. RHP Matt Mantei

 

Lineup:

 

1. CF Johnny Damon

2. SS Edgar Renteria

3. DH David Ortiz

4. RF Bobby Abreu

5. 1B Lyle Overbay

6. C Jason Varitek

7. 3B Mike Lowell

8. 2B Mark Loretta

9. LF Lastings Milledge

 

 

 

thats great, anyone else got anything?

[26 to 6]

ACL BoSox, Dotel is a Free Agent. He cant be traded.

[guapo34]

I'll take a shot:

 

First: Trade Manny IF we can get at least this for him:

 

Red Sox get Troy Glaus, Ervin Santana, Casey Kotchman

Angels get Manny

Dbacks get prospects from the Angels

I know people don't think we can get this much, and if we can't I'd keep Manny and tell him either play or we'll keep our 20/mill year. Alternatives for Kotchman in this deal would be chad tracy, connor jackson, or carlos quentin from the Dbacks with better angels prospects going to the dbacks. If we end up with jackson or quentin, skip step five, put glaus at 1b.

 

Two: Do what it takes to get Abreau in a deal that includes Clement and Trot Nixon. Throw in a prospect to get it done. Possible guys to include would be Dave Murphy, Manny Delcarmen, Kevin Youkilis.

 

Three: Trade David Wells. The trade I like the best thats been rumored is to Oakland for Justin Duchscherer. or San Diego for Scott Linebrink. Again, we might be able to get either done, but we should be able to get a pretty good pitcher for Wells and that seems to be what we're looking for.

 

Four: Find out what it would take to get Adam Dunn. This might be the hardest part, but does a package of Arroyo, Pedrioa, and Youk get it done? Probably not, but pretty much anthing that doesn't involve trading a ml starter, or lester I'd go for.

 

Five: Trade Mike Lowell to the twins. Pay part of his salary and get what you can back. Minor leaguers/guys that could be included in the Lowell trade, maybe a backup OF. It really doesn't matter. With Glaus and Kotchman theres nowhere to put him.

 

Six: Sign Juan Encarnacion or Preston Wilson to play center field. Encarnacion is the better hitter, Wilson is better defensively(i think). Something like 2 years 13 million.

 

Seven: Graffanino or Grudzelanick if Pedroia gets traded to Cincy, if not platoon Alex Cora and Dustin Pedroia. I'm assuming Pedoia goes.

 

Lineup:

 

Wilson/Encarnacion (CF)

Bobby Abreau (RF)

David Ortiz (DH)

Adam Dunn (LF)

Troy Glaus (3b)

Casey Kotchman (1b)

Jason Varitek ©

Edgar Rentaria (SS)

Tony Graffanino (2b)

 

Rotation:

 

Schilling

Beckett

Wakefield

Santana

Papelbon

 

Bullpen

 

Foulke

Timlin

Duchschere/Linebrick

Mota

Hansen

Dinardo

 

I realize some of my trades are optomistic, but if you trade Manny this is the type of talent you have to bring in.

[jimmycarter05]

I'll take a shot:

 

First: Trade Manny IF we can get at least this for him:

 

Red Sox get Troy Glaus, Ervin Santana, Casey Kotchman

Angels get Manny

Dbacks get prospects from the Angels

I know people don't think we can get this much, and if we can't I'd keep Manny and tell him either play or we'll keep our 20/mill year. Alternatives for Kotchman in this deal would be chad tracy, connor jackson, or carlos quentin from the Dbacks with better angels prospects going to the dbacks. If we end up with jackson or quentin, skip step five, put glaus at 1b.

 

Two: Do what it takes to get Abreau in a deal that includes Clement and Trot Nixon. Throw in a prospect to get it done. Possible guys to include would be Dave Murphy, Manny Delcarmen, Kevin Youkilis.

 

Three: Trade David Wells. The trade I like the best thats been rumored is to Oakland for Justin Duchscherer. or San Diego for Scott Linebrink. Again, we might be able to get either done, but we should be able to get a pretty good pitcher for Wells and that seems to be what we're looking for.

 

Four: Find out what it would take to get Adam Dunn. This might be the hardest part, but does a package of Arroyo, Pedrioa, and Youk get it done? Probably not, but pretty much anthing that doesn't involve trading a ml starter, or lester I'd go for.

 

Five: Trade Mike Lowell to the twins. Pay part of his salary and get what you can back. Minor leaguers/guys that could be included in the Lowell trade, maybe a backup OF. It really doesn't matter. With Glaus and Kotchman theres nowhere to put him.

 

Six: Sign Juan Encarnacion or Preston Wilson to play center field. Encarnacion is the better hitter, Wilson is better defensively(i think). Something like 2 years 13 million.

 

Seven: Graffanino or Grudzelanick if Pedroia gets traded to Cincy, if not platoon Alex Cora and Dustin Pedroia. I'm assuming Pedoia goes.

 

Lineup:

 

Wilson/Encarnacion (CF)

Bobby Abreau (RF)

David Ortiz (DH)

Adam Dunn (LF)

Troy Glaus (3b)

Casey Kotchman (1b)

Jason Varitek ©

Edgar Rentaria (SS)

Tony Graffanino (2b)

 

Rotation:

 

Schilling

Beckett

Wakefield

Santana

Papelbon

 

Bullpen

 

Foulke

Timlin

Duchschere/Linebrick

Mota

Hansen

Dinardo

 

I realize some of my trades are optomistic, but if you trade Manny this is the type of talent you have to bring in.

 

 

just curious, why would you trade a gold glover 3b and keep a guy thats going to make 30+ errors a season? I do like the idea of dunn if we trade manny, i think he's a great power hitter with a great OBP, i remember when cincy wanted to bat him Leadoff because he was the only one with a high OBP

[guapo34]

just curious, why would you trade a gold glover 3b and keep a guy thats going to make 30+ errors a season? I do like the idea of dunn if we trade manny, i think he's a great power hitter with a great OBP, i remember when cincy wanted to bat him Leadoff because he was the only one with a high OBP

 

 

Surprisingly, unless I'm blind, espn.com's player pages don't show errors, but I don't think Glaus's defense is that bad. He started as a shortstop and has a cannon for an arm. He's certainly not as fast as he used to be but thats not a big problem at third. I'm pretty skeptical of Lowell's gold glove. Abreau also won a gold glove fwiw and everyone in Philladelphia say hes awful defensively. Glaus is a right handed fly ball power hitter. I think he could wear out the wall like many people hope Lowell will even though Glaus hit 29 more home runs and slugged .162 higher.

[ACL BoSox]

ACL BoSox, Dotel is a Free Agent. He cant be traded.

 

Touche, perhaps Rincon then.

[Beckett95]

1. Trade David Wells

Id like to see Justin Duchscherer for wells. if not him scott linebrink would be fine.

 

2. Get a 1B

I think Arroyo for Overbay would be a smart move. Good OBP he is a nice doubles hitter

 

3. Find a 2B

I like the Mirabelli for loretta deal. Loretta is a proving allstar 2B. (Varitek or shoppach could catch wakefield with some practice in spring training)

 

4. A lefty for the pen

The twins really like kevin youkilis and if we got overbay, youk could be traded. Youk for J.C. Romero is possible.

 

5. DO NOT trade Manny

There is no way you can replace his bat in the lineup. Troy Glaus is no where near as good of a hitter as Manny.

 

6. Sign Rondell white or preston wilson as a 4th OF

Need a right handed OF to play against lefties since nixon hasnt proven he can hit lefties yet

 

7. Sign a Right handed hitting 1B

to sub for overbay against lefties. Wes Helms could fit in here

 

8. RESIGN Johnny Damon

probaly the best leadoff hitters in the game. the catalyst of the redsox offense

 

Lineup--

 

1. Johnny Damon—CF—L

2. Edgar Renteria—SS—R

3. David Ortiz—DH—L

4. Manny Ramirez—LF—R

5. Trot Nixon—RF—L

6. Mike Lowell—3B—R

7. Lyle Overbay—1B—L

8. Mark Loretta—2B—R

9. Jason Varitek—C—S

 

Rotation--

 

1. Curt Schilling—R

2. Josh Beckett—R

3. Tim Wakefield—R

4. Matt Clement—R

5. Jon Papelbon—R

 

Bullpen--

 

LRP—Lenny Dinardo—L

MRP—Justin Duchscherer—R

MRP—J.C. Romero—L

MRP—Chad Bradford—R

SU—Mike Timlin—R

SU—Guillermo Mota—R

CL—Keith Foulke—R (if he has any problems, Hansen will take his spot)

 

Bench--

 

Kelly Shoppach—C—R

Rondell White—OF—R

Alex Cora—IF—L

Wes Helms —1B—R

[guapo34]

responding to Beckett 95:

 

I would love to keep Manny. Obviously you're taking a risk with how he'll respond. Damon's definately worth keeping at the right price, but I'm just curious as to how much you'd be willing to pay him? If someone like Detroit offers him 5-6 years at 13 million a year do you think its worth it? The Furcal signing has me worried at what it will take to keep him.

[ahhchon]

Surprisingly, unless I'm blind, espn.com's player pages don't show errors, but I don't think Glaus's defense is that bad. He started as a shortstop and has a cannon for an arm. He's certainly not as fast as he used to be but thats not a big problem at third. I'm pretty skeptical of Lowell's gold glove. Abreau also won a gold glove fwiw and everyone in Philladelphia say hes awful defensively. Glaus is a right handed fly ball power hitter. I think he could wear out the wall like many people hope Lowell will even though Glaus hit 29 more home runs and slugged .162 higher.

 

although i agree that the gold glove is not the best award to judge a players defensive ability on i'll say that lowell is a fine defensive 3rd baseman.

 

scott rolen who has won 6 of the past 7 gold gloves (1998-2004) has a career fielding % that is .010 lower tha lowell. lowell as a matter of fact has gotten slightly better every single year when he comes to fielding, but that could also be due to pitchers that start for the fish... glaush however is a terribe 3b, his career f% at 3rd is a subpar .945 and was top 5 in k's in 5 of his last 7 seasons (98 was his rookie year). if it wasn't for his time on the DL in 03 and 04 he would have been top 5 in K's in 7 of his last 7 seasons, while sporting a .358 career Obp. it's a close call but of the two i'de take lowell for the money. he's definately going to rebound after a subpar 2005, all those saf flies (he was 2nd in the nl) will become home runs or bounce off the monster for 2b's (which he had 36 of).

 

i really really hope that i am correct in saying that lowell had an off year, if he repeats that kind of year (offensively) than it's hard to not assume he was on roids...

 

john

[riverside sluggers]

guapo34: Surprisingly, unless I'm blind, espn.com's player pages don't show errors, but I don't think Glaus's defense is that bad.

 

you can find his errors and fielding stats here: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6063/career

[ksushi]

although i agree that the gold glove is not the best award to judge a players defensive ability on i'll say that lowell is a fine defensive 3rd baseman.

 

I don't know about that. I think that when you're an offensive stud it helps when it comes to winning a gold glove yes. Given Mike Lowells year at the plate, I think that speaks to the kind of year he had in the field to win a gold glove. Guys who can't hit do get over looked. Guess what, mike lowell couldn't hit and he didnt get overlooked. Morgan Ensberg hit and played some nice defense as well, and he got passed up for Lowell. I think this Gold Glove happens to really tell how good lowell is.

[MANNYHOF24]

Allright Here is my 2006 roster

 

1. Resign Damon

 

2.Trade David Wells to Padres for Roberts and Otsuka

 

3.Do proposed Trade that would send Renteria to Altanta and pick up Lugo to short

 

4.Sign Nomar to incentive laden deal to play second

 

5.trade arroyo for overbay

 

6.trade Youk for Romero(Twins need a 3B, we need Bullpen Help)

 

Lineup

 

Damon-CF

Nomar-2B

Ortiz-DH

Manny-LF

Overbay-1b

Varitek-C

Nixon-RF

Lowel-3b

Lugo-SS

Starting Rotation

Schill

Beckett

Wake

Paps

Clement

Bullpen-

Foulke-CP

Timlin

Mota

Romero

Myers

Bradford

Hansen

Otsuka

[ORS]

Here's what I'd do.....

 

-Rent Hubble Telescope from NASA

-Find planet ManRam

-Build rocket ship

-Go to planet ManRam

-Convince Manny to stay

[MANNYHOF24]

I dont understand, just dont trade him, its not like he is going to walk away from 57 millon. And has Manny ever been that much of a distraction in the club house, No!, just let the whole thing boil over and have the best righthanded hitter in the A.L next season

[ahhchon]

I don't know about that. I think that when you're an offensive stud it helps when it comes to winning a gold glove yes. Given Mike Lowells year at the plate, I think that speaks to the kind of year he had in the field to win a gold glove. Guys who can't hit do get over looked. Guess what, mike lowell couldn't hit and he didnt get overlooked. Morgan Ensberg hit and played some nice defense as well, and he got passed up for Lowell. I think this Gold Glove happens to really tell how good lowell is.

 

do you have any idea what you are talking about? do you have any idea what i'm talking about?

 

like i stated above, the gold glove is not the best way to tell if a player is good defensively or not. granted there are exceptions where one of the better defensive player wins there are just as many where someone who is not that great defensively who wins. you can use jeter as an example, though he's gotten much better in the past year he still wasn't the best in the al defensively, he won because of the market he played in.

 

mike lowell is a good defensive 3b because he is a good defender, not because he won the gold glove.

 

john