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Ok How about Manny to the cubs

 

Cubs Get

Manny

 

Sox get

A. Ramirez

K. Wood

Matt Murton

 

It would give us a clean up hitter, a good starter and an outfield prospect who could platoon in right with Nixon and maybe start in left in a year or 2. The Sox could then go sign Giles or find anotherbat for LF that would give us a v ery deep line up

The cubs would be getting a big bat to add to there line up and with the white sox winning the WS they are under pressure to do well next year and this would be a big splash they would need.

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Ok How about Manny to the cubs

 

Cubs Get

Manny

 

Sox get

A. Ramirez

K. Wood

Matt Murton

 

It would give us a clean up hitter, a good starter and an outfield prospect who could platoon in right with Nixon and maybe start in left in a year or 2. The Sox could then go sign Giles or find anotherbat for LF that would give us a v ery deep line up

The cubs would be getting a big bat to add to there line up and with the white sox winning the WS they are under pressure to do well next year and this would be a big splash they would need.

 

 

i like your idea of manny to the cubs, because they need offensive, but your trade would never happen because; kerry wood is wayyyy toooo injury prone,and, matt murton is a great LF prospect....here is a better trade(in my opinion)...i can agree with you on A. Ramirez because we could teach youkilis to play 1st, keep papi as the DH, and have ramirez on 3rd(plays it well too), but here is my trade

 

Cubs;

Manny

Matt Clement(send em bac!)

Youkilis(if we don't get konkero)

 

BoSox;

Carlos Z-great fireballing pitching, high K guy

A. Ramirez-great cleanup or 3rd hitter

 

i think that's pretty legit trade...plus we could even sign konkero maybe because those players only total up to 11 million, got 9 million left over

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I dont think they would give up Zambrano and by taking wood you get a pitcher who is injury prone but he has the potential to be dominant. About Matt Murton he isnt a great prospect he is just a good one and with manny on bored they have no need for another OF. i think the sox could get a lot more from the cubs than ur offer. and they don't want clement.
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i like your idea of manny to the cubs, because they need offensive, but your trade would never happen because; kerry wood is wayyyy toooo injury prone,and, matt murton is a great LF prospect....here is a better trade(in my opinion)...i can agree with you on A. Ramirez because we could teach youkilis to play 1st, keep papi as the DH, and have ramirez on 3rd(plays it well too), but here is my trade

 

Cubs;

Manny

Matt Clement(send em bac!)

Youkilis(if we don't get konkero)

 

BoSox;

Carlos Z-great fireballing pitching, high K guy

A. Ramirez-great cleanup or 3rd hitter

 

i think that's pretty legit trade...plus we could even sign konkero maybe because those players only total up to 11 million, got 9 million left over

talk about a one sided deal

 

this is Manny Ramirez you guys are talking here, a GREAT player, not a very good player (Trot NIxon), but a great player.

Posted
Straight up Manny for Zambrano. Saw this guy pitch against the sox in Chicago, definatly the unsung ace of their staff. Doubtful if Cubs would agree, unlikely to add anyone else though if they were to...
Posted
When does Derek Lee become a free agent?? I thought I saw something that mentioned it was coming up soon. If thats the case the Cubs might want to move him cause he will get big cash.

 

he would be great addition to fenway, but im sure i saw recently an article saying that the Cubs look to lock down a long-term contract to keep Lee at Wrigley Field.

Posted
Straight up Manny for Zambrano. Saw this guy pitch against the sox in Chicago, definatly the unsung ace of their staff. Doubtful if Cubs would agree, unlikely to add anyone else though if they were to...

Welcome, but I don't think anyone here will agree with that statement...

 

At least me. No, not at all. We need to get back more than what we're giving. In this case, we don't get that. Not at all.

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Umm Zambrano is one of the best pitchers in the National league!!!!

If the cubs would agree to that I would do it in a second but if they loose Zambrano then they have to rely on Wood, and Prior who have been hurt the last few years. If we got Wood and A. Ramirez plus a prospect or two we are getting 2 good players for one great one. also saving on payroll allowing us to possibly sign Damon and a player like Giles. Wood has great stuff and would give us a legit number 2 starter. This trade would improve our pitching staff and help with payroll.

Posted
zambrano is good, but ramirez + prospects aren't going to be enough to = manny's production, and i'm not going to hold my breath konerko is coming to boston. besides, the cubs haven't been known to be particularly free spending so if they were gonna take on manny's salary, they'd need alot more players to replace giving up their ace.
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:lol:

 

and maybe they can throw in wood while they're at it! ;)

 

Manny Ramirez>Derek Lee, Carlos Zambrano>Matt Clement, it's a fair trade, kinda favoring the Cubs.

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maybe if lee didnt have a breakout year offensively maybe chicago might be willing to trade him, but given he is younger and makes less money than manram, i doubt they're gonna just give him away. also, given that chicago didnt want clement back when he became a free agent, why would they give up their one healthy ace for a pitcher that folded in the second half?

 

offensively i agree manny is more consistent than lee, but something tells me they are in no hurry to get rid of him...

Posted
maybe if lee didnt have a breakout year offensively maybe chicago might be willing to trade him, but given he is younger and makes less money than manram, i doubt they're gonna just give him away. also, given that chicago didnt want clement back when he became a free agent, why would they give up their one healthy ace for a pitcher that folded in the second half?

 

offensively i agree manny is more consistent than lee, but something tells me they are in no hurry to get rid of him...

 

Yeah? But you gotta realize the the National League would be a plus for Manny, and Derek Lee didn't have a better year than Manny, Manny was better this year, and every year.

Posted
Actually, that is true, Lee would be helped out by Ramirez, but come on! How many other times has he asked for a trade?? Too many to count, and he stayed put, I think we should keep him here in Boston.
Posted
For some reason I now have a strong feeling that Manny will be traded to the Mets. This is due to the Mets trading Mike Cameron for Xavier Nady. He's probobllay going to be used in a swap with the Bosox for Ramirez. I wouldn't be surprised to see somethign done by the time the winter meetings are over.
Posted
lol. dude i hope ur kidding and scrolled all the way to the bottom of the article.

It's a joke. Why do you think I changed the url?

Posted
lol i know.... i admit i bought it till about halfway through the article, then i was like, this is ********. i was hoping thats why u posted that... u never know with some people...willing to believe anything they hear or read without checking out the source first.
Posted
You should see Yakshaters ******* of the year thread. It is another story from that site with Eli manning demanding a trade back to the chargers last year cause SD was doing awesome.
Posted
Manny Ramirez>Derek Lee, Carlos Zambrano>Matt Clement, it's a fair trade, kinda favoring the Cubs.
Sorry man it's not even close D Lee almsot hit for the triple crown for christ sakes plus he has a great glove D-Lee > Manny, Zambrano > Clement, it's no where near fair.

 

D-Lee .335 average > Mannys .292

 

D-Lee 46 homers > Mannys 45 (not to mention NL pitching is far better than AL pitching).

 

RBI D-Lee 107

 

Combine that with the fact that D-Lee has gold glove caliber defense lopsided trade If I've heard one.

Posted
yeah but throw in the age difference and $$$ between Manny and D. Lee and the frugal cubs in no way make this deal. but as to schilling's argument, yes, lee had 1 good year vs. manny's entire career body of work, but what incentive does chicago need to make this deal? their cross-town rival just won the world series, yet they are still the best draw in all of chicago and they are not going to throw money away on an aging one-dimensional player (see sammy's exodus last season) with a media that is alot more hostile and intense than what he can expect out west.
Posted
Manny Ramirez is a MUCH better hitter than Derek Lee. He had a great season....think he will do it as consistantly as Manny?? No way.
I believe that weather or not he can do it as consistantly as Manny is up for debate. Clearly last year was his break out year after he changed up his stance now all there is to see is wether or not it was a fluke or it was his break out year and he will be consistant thsi way for the bulk of the rest of his career. It's up in the air but if D-=Lee can keep it up he's the better player.

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