Official NBA thread

[Flynnatic10]

The only people that think anyone is better than MJ' date=' clearly didnt watch him play.... Sure Kobe and lebron are amazing, but no one ever doubted mike in a clutch situation... You can't say that about anybody in the NBA now... Bulls would of won 8 straight rings if mike didn't feel like challenging himself in baseball for a bit[/quote']

 

Yeah, he said he starting watching basketball last season. Pathetic.

 

Anyway, Let's bounce back from last night!

[redsoxrules]

Kobe pathetic down the stretch again , OKC with a great come from behind victory

[ellsburyforMVP]

Kobe pathetic down the stretch again ' date=' OKC with a great come from behind victory[/quote']

 

I'm not a Kobe " hater" but I definitely don't want him to get a 6th ring, because then all the idiots in the world will start putting him in the Jordan category...

 

Another thing about Jordan ( yeah he had pippen,but ) Besides the heat ( had a,past his prime, but still great shaq ) and maybe the pistons ( sheed and Ben Wallace ) The bulls are the only team in the last 20+? yrs that didn't have a dominate hall-of-fame "big-man"... Kobe had the most dominate big guy ever in shaq for 3 titles and gasol and Bynum for 2 others

 

Mavs-dirk

Lakers (2) Bynum-gasol

Celtics-Garnett

Spurs-Duncan

Heat-oldish shaq ( but an out-of-this-world performance by wade )

Spurs-Duncan

Pistons-Wallace+Wallace

Spurs- Duncan-Robinson ( wow )

Lakers (3) dominate shaq

Spurs-see above

Bulls (3) longley-wennington-klein lmao

Rockets-Hakeem

Bulls (3) Cartwright ( he was ok ) Perdue-king-grant ( he was pretty good but even at 6-10, he wasn't your proto-typical "big-man"

[redsoxrules]

I'm not a Kobe " hater" but I definitely don't want him to get a 6th ring' date=' because then all the idiots in the world will start putting him in the Jordan category...[/b']

Another thing about Jordan ( yeah he had pippen,but ) Besides the heat ( had a,past his prime, but still great shaq ) and maybe the pistons ( sheed and Ben Wallace ) The bulls are the only team in the last 20+? yrs that didn't have a dominate hall-of-fame "big-man"... Kobe had the most dominate big guy ever in shaq for 3 titles and gasol and Bynum for 2 others

 

Mavs-dirk

Lakers (2) Bynum-gasol

Celtics-Garnett

Spurs-Duncan

Heat-oldish shaq ( but an out-of-this-world performance by wade )

Spurs-Duncan

Pistons-Wallace+Wallace

Spurs- Duncan-Robinson ( wow )

Lakers (3) dominate shaq

Spurs-see above

Bulls (3) longley-wennington-klein lmao

Rockets-Hakeem

Bulls (3) Cartwright ( he was ok ) Perdue-king-grant ( he was pretty good but even at 6-10, he wasn't your proto-typical "big-man"

 

same here .

he's on the decline and unless the Lakers add another superstar on the team I doubt they win another one , especially when the Heat get their s*** together and win

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

It's sad that LeBron's current supporting cast is just as bad if not worse than what he had in Cleveland. Joel Anthony's made a couple of good defensive plays, but no one else is doing a god damn thing.

[ellsburyforMVP]

It's sad that LeBron's current supporting cast is just as bad if not worse than what he had in Cleveland. Joel Anthony's made a couple of good defensive plays' date=' but no one else is doing a god damn thing.[/quote']

 

So what about when lebron missed 3 out of 4 free throws late in the gm 2 gms ago??

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Who gives a s***? If his supporting cast wasn't so pathetic maybe they could have made up those 3 points at some other point in the game. LeBron's the only reason they're still in this game and this series. One tiny sample size from game 2 doesn't undermine what he's done.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Wade is officially awful. Heat need to trade him this summer.

[Flynnatic10]

Love that the Heat are losing!

[ellsburyforMVP]

Love that the Heat are losing!

 

This

 

 

And lebron's whole m.o is he doesn't bring it in the playoffs.... He's just doing what he's done his while career:dunno:

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

And lebron's whole m.o is he doesn't bring it in the playoffs.... He's just doing what he's done his while career:dunno:

 

Putting up big numbers, playing great defense, and getting let down by the people around him.

 

Yeah, totally his fault.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Putting up big numbers, playing great defense, and getting let down by the people around him.

 

Yeah, totally his fault.

 

Big numbers?? His last 2 gms are anything but spectacular.... They were not MVP worthy numbers

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

28, 9, and 5 isn't MVP caliber?

 

22 and 7 in game 3 isn't great but that hardly proves your point.

[ellsburyforMVP]

28, 9, and 5 isn't MVP caliber?

 

22 and 7 in game 3 isn't great but that hardly proves your point.

 

Tbh those are below his season average?? And I would hope the best player in the NBA could "step it up" in the playoffs?? Example... Rondo and Garnett?? Roy hibbert? Those guys have taken their gm up a level in the playoffs... Rondo had a 23 and 14 gm? Hibbert 19-18 Garnett had his 2 highest scoring gms so far this year in the playoffs..

 

Your 28 and 9 gm from lebron?? He went 8-13 from the line and missed 12 fgs and they lost by 3...he chokes in the playoffs, has every yr of his career

[ellsburyforMVP]

Wade is officially awful. Heat need to trade him this summer.

 

Wow... Wade just made 7 straight fg's to get all the lebron homers heat the lead, but yeah trade him.... Hold on, 8 straight shots made for wade

 

Your an idiot

 

Edit-11 straight for wade

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Tbh those are below his season average?? And I would hope the best player in the NBA could "step it up" in the playoffs?? Example... Rondo and Garnett?? Roy hibbert? Those guys have taken their gm up a level in the playoffs... Rondo had a 23 and 14 gm? Hibbert 19-18 Garnett had his 2 highest scoring gms so far this year in the playoffs..

 

28 and 9 is not below his season average, you f***ing dolt.

 

Your 28 and 9 gm from lebron?? He went 8-13 from the line and missed 12 fgs and they lost by 3...he chokes in the playoffs, has every yr of his career

 

Oh I get it... this is a lolclutch argument isn't it?

 

Lol people who believe in clutch. Calling player X 'clutch' is like saying that god is watching out for him. Complete ******** made up by idiots desperate to explain the unexplainable.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Wow... Wade just made 7 straight fg's to get all the lebron homers heat the lead, but yeah trade him.... Hold on, 8 straight shots made for wade

 

Your an idiot

 

Edit-11 straight for wade

He finally woke up, but if Miami were to break up the big 3, Wade's the guy to deal. He's older than LeBron, aging fast, and is pretty much the only option they have to sufficiently fill the other holes on their team.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Oh, and today for LeBron? 40 points, 18 rebounds, 9 assists. Ties the series on the road. How un-MVP like. What a choker.

 

Stop talking basketball, you half-retarded Boston homer.

[Flynnatic10]

Pacers

[ellsburyforMVP]

Oh, and today for LeBron? 40 points, 18 rebounds, 9 assists. Ties the series on the road. How un-MVP like. What a choker.

 

Stop talking basketball, you half-retarded Boston homer.

 

That's what people expect from lebron?? Do I need to type out lebron's 4th quarter playoff numbers from the last couple yrs??

 

So your saying Jordan wasn't clutch?? Seriously? Maybe even an idiot like yourself can comprehend this... Google " Jordan flu game" ..........then ask lebron why he's not wearing #23 anymore

[ellsburyforMVP]

You wanna trade wade cause he's like 2 months older than lebron, has leg issues right now and struggled last gm...... And I'm the retard?? Out of the 2, who is a finals MVP? Has been voted the best performance ever in a finals? Has a better jumper? Who would you rather have at the FT line? Who do you want taking the last shot? Who is so unselfish, that he welcomend in 2 stars knowing that he would lose the spotlight? The answer to all those is the guy your saying they should trade....and I'm the retard...smh

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

That's what people expect from lebron?? Do I need to type out lebron's 4th quarter playoff numbers from the last couple yrs??

 

Go ahead. I'm just wondering why you'd post just the 4th quarter numbers. That's like me posting Beckett's 5th inning numbers from last year in some misguided attempt to make a point.

 

So your saying Jordan wasn't clutch?? Seriously? Maybe even an idiot like yourself can comprehend this... Google " Jordan flu game" ..........then ask lebron why he's not wearing #23 anymore

 

No, Jordan wasn't clutch. NOBODY is clutch. Clutch does not exist. Jordan's flu game was pure toughness.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

You wanna trade wade cause he's like 2 months older than lebron

 

2 months? Try 2 years. Retard.

 

Dwyane Wade is 30 and aging fast. He has injury history. He's always played a physical game and has had the s*** kicked out of him over his career. Just like Iverson.

 

and struggled last gm......

 

Not exactly the main bullet point.

 

And I'm the retard??

 

Yup.

 

Out of the 2, who is a finals MVP?

 

Wade, six f***ing years ago. Why is that relevant?

 

Has been voted the best performance ever in a finals?

 

Again, six years ago. And 'voted' means it's not a solid accomplishment. It's based on the opinions on random people. Probably the shitf***s at ESPN.

 

Has a better jumper?

 

I don't know, but LeBron has the better FG% over the past three years, and the better 3pt% in all but their rookie season.

 

Who would you rather have at the FT line?

 

Wade has the better career percentage. Hardly swings the whole thing in his favor though.

 

Who do you want taking the last shot?

 

LeBron.

 

Who is so unselfish, that he welcomend in 2 stars knowing that he would lose the spotlight?

 

Who is so unselfish that he took less money to join two other stars, knowing full well he'd be nationally hated for it?

 

The answer to all those is the guy your saying they should trade....and I'm the retard...smh

 

Did I say you were a retard? My apologies, I sold you short. You have the intelligence and analytic abilities of a mentally disabled hamster. Your attempts to talk basketball are both hilarious and depressing. I'm shocked that you can dress yourself in the morning.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Took less money? Seriously? He left a million or two on the table, but since there's no state taxes in Florida, he's actually making more in Miami then he would with a max deal elsewhere.... 1st of all, wade isn't a 3-pt shooter...2nd I think it's fair to say that atleast 60% of lebron's shots in his career are at the basket out to 10 feet.. Wade has a better jumper than lebron hands down.... If your seriously discounting wades 2006 finals performance as anything less than spectacular, you should honestly kill yourself....The heat were down 2-0 in the series, Down 13 in the 4th quarter when wade scored 12 pts in the last 6 mins... Averaged 35-8-4-3 and shot 97 ft's in 6 gms with 3 gm winners

 

Get lebron's nuts out of your mouth long enough to realize the heat aren't winning s*** ever without wade....

 

Just for arguments sake.... Who do you think they should trade wade for?

[ellsburyforMVP]

http://mobile.canishoopus.com/2011/6/14/2222836/anatomy-of-a-4th-quarter-lebron-james

 

 

Lebron's playoff career in a nutshell..... 18 pts in the 4th quarter of the finals , 7 in the last gm, 11 in the first 5!!!

 

The series against the celtics was pretty horrible to, but that ones more recent

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Took less money? Seriously? He left a million or two on the table' date=' but since there's no state taxes in Florida, he's actually making more in Miami then he would with a max deal elsewhere....[/quote']

 

So he did leave money on the table, though.

 

1st of all, wade isn't a 3-pt shooter...

 

Well, LeBron is. So advantage LeBron.

 

2nd I think it's fair to say that atleast 60% of lebron's shots in his career are at the basket out to 10 feet..

 

Worth just as much as the mid-rangers.

 

Wade has a better jumper than lebron hands down....

 

Percentages don't reflect that. And even they did, LeBron is still indisputably the better player, so it doesn't matter.

 

If your seriously discounting wades 2006 finals performance as anything less than spectacular, you should honestly kill yourself....

 

I'm not discounting anything, you dumbf***. I'm just struggling to see how a great performance in the 2006 finals is relevant six years later, when he's 30 years old with a lot of wear and tear on his body.

 

The heat were down 2-0 in the series, Down 13 in the 4th quarter when wade scored 12 pts in the last 6 mins... Averaged 35-8-4-3 and shot 97 ft's in 6 gms with 3 gm winners

 

So?

 

Get lebron's nuts out of your mouth long enough to realize the heat aren't winning s*** ever without wade....

 

Yeah, they will, if they make the right deal.

 

Just for arguments sake.... Who do you think they should trade wade for?

 

Dwight Howard is number one. Orlando might entertain it, since they've shown throughout the Dwight saga they'd like to avoid rebuilding and deal Dwight for immediate help. Wade fits that bill. He keeps them in the playoffs and puts butts in seats. Otis Smith has made far worse deals. The Heat need a lot of help on the boards and need better interior defense. Dwight is the best in the league at both.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

http://mobile.canishoopus.com/2011/6/14/2222836/anatomy-of-a-4th-quarter-lebron-james

 

 

Lebron's playoff career in a nutshell..... 18 pts in the 4th quarter of the finals , 7 in the last gm, 11 in the first 5!!!

 

The series against the celtics was pretty horrible to, but that ones more recent

So he sucked against Dallas. s*** happens. Miami isn't the first team they surprised last spring. They got hot and played excellent defense.

 

LeBron did pretty good in the 2007 finals. According to your logic, that should at least nullify 2011.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Your reasoning is idiotic at best..... No point in arguing with you about lebron, when clearly you think he's the end-all be-all...lebron isn't mike, he's not magic etc.... Not even close..... Sure his stats compare, but what makes great players legends? Winning in the playoffs, lebron didn't win with Cleveland, everyone says he had a s***** supporting class - but they had the best regular season record 2 yrs in a row? Now he's with Miami and 2 superstars but again people are making excuses saying his supporting class isn't stepping up??

 

Go ahead and make even more excuses for lebron, you love lebron, you'd probably suck him up if given the chance... I get it, I'm disgusted by it, but I get it..... Have fun jacking off to lebron's stats while your responding to this, I'm out.....

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I accept your surrender. You should've done this a while ago though, would've saved yourself some embarrassment.

[ellsburyforMVP]

I accept your surrender. You should've done this a while ago though' date=' would've saved yourself some embarrassment.[/quote']

 

Idk how you took me saying " ya can't argue with a lebron homer" as surrender, but ok:dunno:

 

Anyways.... I actually want the heat to win this series, aslong as Boston doesn't s*** the bed again against Philly