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[ellsburyforMVP]

I bet if you take Lebron off the Cavs' date=' they are one of the shittiest teams in the NBA and they set the NBA record for biggest losing streak in NBA history...[/quote']

 

Really? Because they gutted the cavs after lebron left and won 19 gms?

[Jasonbay44]

Take 2 mins and google their rosters...... I'll wait

 

"Old Shaq" was twice as good as ANY player on the Cavs roster. Lebron's 2nd leading scorer was Larry Hughes who put up 15 PPG while shooting 40%, including 34% in the playoffs lol. Shaq was still putting up like 18-20 PPG and 9 boards a game...

 

Seriously, look at Lebron's roster. Larry Hughes, 15 PPG on 40% from field, 34% in playoffs lol. Lebron's team had guys like Sasha Pavlovic playing big minutes in the playoffs lol. If Lebron didn't score or set up his big men, the Cavs would barely score. At least Shaq could score by himself, when Wade wasn't on the court.

 

Wade had a great #2 option and tons of good role players. Lebron had no #2 option, good role players and scrubs.

[ellsburyforMVP]

They came off the bench. If they were starters I can see that being a problem

 

They averaged 50 minutes per gm between them.... Not starter numbers, but def not mop-up time numbers either

[ellsburyforMVP]

"Old Shaq" was twice as good as ANY player on the Cavs roster. Lebron's 2nd leading scorer was Larry Hughes who put up 15 PPG while shooting 40%, including 34% in the playoffs lol. Shaq was still putting up like 18-20 PPG and 9 boards a game...

 

Seriously, look at Lebron's roster. Larry Hughes, 15 PPG on 40% from field, 34% in playoffs lol. Lebron's team had guys like Sasha Pavlovic playing big minutes in the playoffs lol. If Lebron didn't score or set up his big men, the Cavs would barely score. At least Shaq could score by himself, when Wade wasn't on the court.

 

Wade had a great #2 option and tons of good role players. Lebron had no #2 option, good role players and scrubs.

 

What yr cavs team you looking at? I'm talking 2009-2010... Mo Williams? Antwan Jamison? Those guys

[Jasonbay44]

What yr cavs team you looking at? I'm talking 2009-2010... Mo Williams? Antwan Jamison? Those guys

 

I was comparing the two teams that each player took to the finals. I thought that was what you were talking about.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

What yr cavs team you looking at? I'm talking 2009-2010... Mo Williams? Antwan Jamison? Those guys

 

But they didn't make the finals that year?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I was comparing the two teams that each player took to the finals. I thought that was what you were talking about.

 

Exactly. That's what I was saying.

[ellsburyforMVP]

The 09-10 cavs had 9 guys besides lebron averaging more than 7 pts per gm... And obviously the guys on the bottom of that list aren't getting many minutes

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Okay but you're missing the main topic of discussion. We were talking about LeBron vs Wade team members in the final and how they contributed.

[ellsburyforMVP]

I was comparing the two teams that each player took to the finals. I thought that was what you were talking about.

 

That was the yr that I define as the bigger "choke" in the playoffs... IMO ... He mailed it in against the celts

[ellsburyforMVP]

Okay but you're missing the main topic of discussion. We were talking about LeBron vs Wade team members in the final and how they contributed.

 

Well clearly , even though both teams had the best record, the 08-09 team will support your argument ( not that great of an overall team ) and the 09-10 team supports mine ( very good supporting cast ) .... Given that... Yeah the heat w/o wade beat the 08-09 cavs, but not the 09-10 team... I think we can atleast agree wade was the 1 and only reason they beat the mavs in 06... Yeah he had shaq, but wade was ridiculous

[ellsburyforMVP]

Wade went 35-8-4-3 (stls) in a series that neither team hit 100 in regulation , was down 0-2 and hit 3 gm winners

[Flynnatic10]

I'm confused. Why are we arguing over Wade and LeBron's old supporting cast

[Jasonbay44]

I don't really get what the argument is anymore, are you trying to say Wade is better then Lebron? Yeah, obviously Wade was the reason the Heat won the finals, but I'd still take his supporting cast over Lebron's 09/10 supporting cast. I'm not taking anything away from Wade, I'm just saying Lebron's cast sucked.

 

Some of those guys you mentioned averaging 7 PPG or whatever didn't do ANYTHING in playoffs.. Telfair wasn't on team in playoffs, Big Z averaged 1.3 PPG and Lebron's two best player absolutely disappeared in two most important games of the season. Antawn Jamsion and Mo Williams were terrible in that series..

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I'm confused. Why are we arguing over Wade and LeBron's old supporting cast

 

I said something about LeBron winning a ring and he talked about how he couldn't do it in Cleveland. I brought up that he didn't really have the team made for a championship and he said Wade did it on his own..which he did not.

[Flynnatic10]

I said something about LeBron winning a ring and he talked about how he couldn't do it in Cleveland. I brought up that he didn't really have the team made for a championship and he said Wade did it on his own..which he did not.

 

Well they aren't winning this year either.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Well they aren't winning this year either.

 

Who is stopping them OKC? They have a legit chance of winning this year. They only lost lastyear because LeBron s*** the bed reallly bad in the 4th quarter.

[Jasonbay44]

If I was betting on a team to win the finals, I'd bet on Miami. I would love to see a Miami/OKC series.

[Flynnatic10]

OKC is winning the championship.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

If I was betting on a team to win the finals' date=' I'd bet on Miami. I would love to see a Miami/OKC series.[/quote']

 

Agreed on both parts.

[melvinchar]

Thanks for it!!

[Jasonbay44]

CJ Watson and Omer Asik have been getting death threats on facebook and twitter for losing the Bulls the series vs the 76ers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/11/cj-watson-twitter-death-threat-bulls-76ers_n_1508211.html

 

People are so stupid.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Wow that's low.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Those are too punchless to be threatening or even funny.

[Jasonbay44]

Those are too punchless to be threatening or even funny.

 

I know right, I didn't actually see the Tweets till now because the Pics wouldn't load on my phone. They don't even sound threatening or anything at all lol

[ellsburyforMVP]

Looks like the "dominant best team of all time" heat are having some trouble with the lowly pacers ( who have no real "superstars" by the way)

[boston22407]

Haha Love It!

[Flynnatic10]

Pacers have more depth and a far better frontcourt. That's the Heat's main problem.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Pacers have more depth and a far better frontcourt. That's the Heat's main problem.

 

Lol.... Excuses, excuses.... Pacers just ran out of gas the last 4 mins.... The heat clearly didn't look like " clear-cut " favorites to win the east

[Flynnatic10]

Lol.... Excuses' date=' excuses.... Pacers just ran out of gas the last 4 mins.... The heat clearly didn't look like " clear-cut " favorites to win the east[/quote']

 

When Bosh goes down in the 2nd quarter and doesn't come back, you kinda have a problem. Bosh may be the most important player on the Heat. If you take LeBron or Wade from the equation, you still have the other. When Bosh goes down, who is going to replace him, Haslem? Pfft.