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[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

That's actually better news for celtics and pretty sure the heat are atleast a little uneasy... Boston had major matchup troubles with Chicago' date=' and with rose I don't think the celts can beat them..... But Miami can beat Chicago....... Don't give me this the heat are "locked" in stuff either, we all know the heat have major problems matching up with the celtics, because they don't have the bigs that can guard Garnett and bass... Either inside or out up to 17 feet , where both can consistently knock down jumpers....Boston proved during the season that they can beat Miami at home and on the road..... In a close gm and in a blowout....so when you say a path was cleared.... It only makes sense that rose going down benefits the celtics ALOT more than miami[/quote']

 

Seriously? Still? Celtics fans still think we would have a prayer against Miami? Did the last playoff matchup not teach you enough? We got mouthf***ed last time around, and nothing important has changed.

 

Joel Anthony's a very solid defensive big man. He'll handle Garnett no problem. Bosh can take him too if some extra length is required. Bass barely evens needs to be covered. The other Celtics bigs are simply non-factors. That's without getting into how woefully outclassed the Celtics are on the perimeter, on both ends of the floor. And that's without the Heat having a viable point guard.

 

The only thing standing between the Heat and the championship series is themselves. They no longer have an excuse for even playing a game 6 before the finals.

[ellsburyforMVP]

The Celtics own the Heat in the regular season' date=' that's nothing new. You missed the playoffs last year? Celtics had no chance and LeBron is looking more dominant then he did last year in the playoffs.[/quote']

 

I think you are forgetting something about this Boston team.... 1st of all, since they made major lineup changes.... Garnett to center, Allen coming off the bench, Bradley starting.... They have the 2nd best record in the NBA??? This yrs team has a complete different " look " than last yrs team... So for you to compare the 2 teams , is just not fair... Bradley was just nominated for player of the month...add in a rejuvenated Garnett who is consistently putting up double-doubles, rondo is on a historic double-digit assist streak, Allen is having one of his best shooting % yrs, pierce proved he can still score on just about anyone, just dropped 40+ a few gms ago.... Add in that their bench has been playing surprisingly good..... The heat could be in trouble

[ellsburyforMVP]

Seriously? Still? Celtics fans still think we would have a prayer against Miami? Did the last playoff matchup not teach you enough? We got mouthf***ed last time around, and nothing important has changed.

 

Joel Anthony's a very solid defensive big man. He'll handle Garnett no problem. Bosh can take him too if some extra length is required. Bass barely evens needs to be covered. The other Celtics bigs are simply non-factors. That's without getting into how woefully outclassed the Celtics are on the perimeter, on both ends of the floor. And that's without the Heat having a viable point guard.

 

The only thing standing between the Heat and the championship series is themselves. They no longer have an excuse for even playing a game 6 before the finals.

 

Umm the heats bigs can the celtics bigs? What makes you think that? Bass is averaging around 12 pts 10 reb against miami, stiemsma in 2 gms and limited minutes has 14 pts 11 reb 3 stls and 2 blks.... Garnett has only played 2 gms against Miami since he moved to center avg 17 pts 8.5 reb 1.5 blk .... Those #'s dont seem like Anthony and bosh can " handle " our bigs....

 

Rondo has OWNED Miami he avg's 19 pts 14 asts 8 reb per gm....

Pierce 2 gms vs Miami ...25 pts 7 reb 2.5 ast 1.5 stl

Bradly avg's 10 pts against Miami .... Didn't include Allen, cause he hasnt played much against the heat, but Allen alone makes your statement about our perimeter laughable

[ellsburyforMVP]

Love how the heat fans think they got it " in the bag " after they beat up on a horrible knick team.... The Knicks are a disgrace to the playoffs..... The heat didn't even TRY to win the #1 seed down the stretch.... Why? Because with the 2 seed, you have to play the Knicks, and pacers ( maybe Orlando without howard ) .... The #1 seed has to beat a talented 76er team, and most likely Boston... The hottest team since the All-star break.... Easy choice, play for the 2 seed.... Bunch of pussies

[ellsburyforMVP]

You say "we" as if your a Boston fan, but then you say nothing has changed since last yr?? That leads me to believe you don't know anything about the celtics ... The Garnett to center move is the most obvious? Allen coming off the bench to play with the 2nd team has greatly improved our bench scoring... Bradley as a starter has been amazing? The big 3 last yr were averaging almost 40 mins a gm last yr, this yr they are playing 31 mins a gm... We didn't have anyone of bass's caliber last yr, he avg's 13 pts and 6 reb a gm...pietrus is another viable 3-pt shooter that we didn't have last yr... Stiemsma avg's 1.5 blks a gm in 13 mins of playing time.... Lol, this team is COMPLETLY different than last yrs team

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Lol homer. The heat are a better team than the Celtics no matter how you put the matchups.

[Flynnatic10]

Bynum went to work today, 10 blocks!

[ellsburyforMVP]

Lol homer. The heat are a better team than the Celtics no matter how you put the matchups.

 

Great argument.... Except the fact that its baseless?? Since Boston changed their rotation, they have a better record than Miami? Boston is 3-1 against the heat this yr? Their only loss was the beginning of the year and we didn't have our leading scorer ( pierce) ? The celtics have yet to have a full squad ( of guys that get regular playing time ) in any gm vs the heat yet they are 3-1 Including winning a low-scoring gm, winning a high scoring gm, and a 20 pt blowout?? But yet, you think the heat, which haven't beaten Boston since January is just gonna turn it on and play twice as good as they have in any gm against Boston so far this yr?? The gm they DID beat Boston, they won by 8 with us missing pierce... Everyone, except you, knows Boston - might NOT be the better team-but they pose major matchup problems for the heat... Bosh and Anthony CAN'T guard Garnett and bass outside the box, where they frequently play... How do you think rondo avg's 20 against you guys?? Because theirs noone in the lane because miami's big's have to respect kg's and bass's jumpers... I throw nothing but facts at you, and all you can muster is trash out of your mouth.... Learn the gm son, you clearly know NOTHING about basketball

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Great argument.... Except the fact that its baseless?? Since Boston changed their rotation' date=' they have a better record than Miami?[b'] Boston is 3-1 against the heat this yr?[/b] Their only loss was the beginning of the year and we didn't have our leading scorer ( pierce) ? The celtics have yet to have a full squad ( of guys that get regular playing time ) in any gm vs the heat yet they are 3-1 Including winning a low-scoring gm, winning a high scoring gm, and a 20 pt blowout?? But yet, you think the heat, which haven't beaten Boston since January is just gonna turn it on and play twice as good as they have in any gm against Boston so far this yr?? The gm they DID beat Boston, they won by 8 with us missing pierce... Everyone, except you, knows Boston - might NOT be the better team-but they pose major matchup problems for the heat... Bosh and Anthony CAN'T guard Garnett and bass outside the box, where they frequently play... How do you think rondo avg's 20 against you guys?? Because theirs noone in the lane because miami's big's have to respect kg's and bass's jumpers... I throw nothing but facts at you, and all you can muster is trash out of your mouth.... Learn the gm son, you clearly know NOTHING about basketball

 

And what's your argument? You have said nothing but had these NBA 2k12 visions of the Celtics whooping the Heat. I already told you that the Heat last year were dominated by the Celtics in the REGULAR SEASON. They whooped your ass in the playoffs and they'll do it again this year if they meet. Both teams as constructed right now, the Heat are the better team. The C's big 3 is done. The Celtics will have a harder time guarding the Heat's big 3. You swear like KG can't be covered. Rondo can't shoot for s***. You're totally a homer and I refuse to argue with you because of your dislike for the Heat. You tell me I know nothing about basketball but the Heat are doing a better job overall than the Celtics lol. No wonder why Boston fans are disliked by so many. I'm not saying it's impossible to beat them but you make it seem like the Celtics are that dominant team from 2008. Please sit down.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

They play the Heat like they're playing the Hawks and they'll get their ass whooped.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Actually the heat were my 2nd favorite team, with my favorite NBA player ( wade ) before they tried to buy a championship.... I lived in Ohio until last yr, have seen lebron play plenty... Are YOU such a HOMER that you don't see that lebron has NEVER showed up in the playoffs? That last yr he was non-existent in the 4th quarter down the stretch? That he can NOT make a clutch gm winning shot to save his life? Lebron ruins the heat, wade carried the heat to the playoffs by hisself , but it's clear he can't play " his " gm with lebron around ... Bosh is a shell of his former self from Toronto ....doesn't matter, you have no idea what your talking about and can't even begin to realize that last yr was LAST yr and has nothing to do with this yrs teams...and it's funny you bring up rondo and his shooting.... Proves you know nothing.... 1st gm 7-15 22 pts 12 ast 8 reb....2nd gm 7-13 ..16 pts 14 ast 11 reb...3rd gm 6-11 18 pts 15 ast 4 reb... His fg% for the yr .448..... Ray allens fg %?? .458....so please tell me why you brought up rondos name in your defense??

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I've seen him play against the Celtics and watched him dominate. He only really f***ed up in the finals. Two East teams can't meet in the finals so...

[ellsburyforMVP]

They play the Heat like they're playing the Hawks and they'll get their ass whooped.

 

Yeah, good thing it's a best of 7 series???.... And if the heat play the celtics like they have at the beginning of the month THEY will get their ass whooped?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Apparently you didn't see the clinic they put against the Knicks yesterday. If the Heat played like they did yesterday and the Celtics playing like they are now. You have no chance.

 

Edit:But you don't have Allen so you're excused for this game. They still look like s***.

[ellsburyforMVP]

I've seen him play against the Celtics and watched him dominate. He only really f***ed up in the finals. Two East teams can't meet in the finals so...

 

So the rest of his career in the playoffs doesn't matter aslong as he had a good playoffs until the finals last yr?? Check his playoff stats from Cleveland .... How about when he was a no-show against Boston??

[ellsburyforMVP]

Apparently you didn't see the clinic they put against the Knicks yesterday. If the Heat played like they did yesterday and the Celtics playing like they are now. You have no chance.

 

Edit:But you don't have Allen so you're excused for this game. They still look like s***.

 

The Knicks are trash and are playing with half a team?? Their starters had ?? 30 pts??

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

So they had a bad game? That still doesn't excuse them from losing 33 points. That's a BEATDOWN. Melo and Amare were both playing. Shumpert unfortunately got injured but they have a decent cast. A cast that won't beat the Heat but shouldn't be losing to them by 33 points.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Apparently you didn't see the clinic they put against the Knicks yesterday. If the Heat played like they did yesterday and the Celtics playing like they are now. You have no chance.

 

Edit:But you don't have Allen so you're excused for this game. They still look like s***.

 

Yeah the celts are playing like trash... But they are only down 8??

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Yeah the celts are playing like trash... But they are only down 8??

 

They were not to long ago.

[ellsburyforMVP]

So they had a bad game? That still doesn't excuse them from losing 33 points. That's a BEATDOWN. Melo and Amare were both playing. Shumpert unfortunately got injured but they have a decent cast. A cast that won't beat the Heat but shouldn't be losing to them by 33 points.

 

Point is..... The Knicks are trash though? Nobody is disputing that... When a trash team has a bad night shooting they get blown out like that?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

You swear the Knicks are like the Wizards or something. They're really not that bad.

[ellsburyforMVP]

You swear the Knicks are like the Wizards or something. They're really not that bad.

 

Their record says they are... Only reason they made the playoffs is because they had 2 decent winning steaks during the season

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Stoudemire missed a lot of games, their coach was s***, players missed a good amount of time due to injuries etc. They really don't have a good chemistry either. They're really not that bad.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Rondo was in the wrong, but no way he should of been tossed

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Memphis shouldnt be allowed to play another playoff game this season.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Umm the heats bigs can the celtics bigs? What makes you think that? Bass is averaging around 12 pts 10 reb against miami, stiemsma in 2 gms and limited minutes has 14 pts 11 reb 3 stls and 2 blks.... Garnett has only played 2 gms against Miami since he moved to center avg 17 pts 8.5 reb 1.5 blk .... Those #'s dont seem like Anthony and bosh can " handle " our bigs....

 

Rondo has OWNED Miami he avg's 19 pts 14 asts 8 reb per gm....

Pierce 2 gms vs Miami ...25 pts 7 reb 2.5 ast 1.5 stl

Bradly avg's 10 pts against Miami .... Didn't include Allen, cause he hasnt played much against the heat, but Allen alone makes your statement about our perimeter laughable

 

Regular season stats don't mean dick, especially against specific teams. What is that, a 4 game sample size at most? Lol. You sound like any ordinary Boston homer fishing for reasons as to why his obviously inferior team can beat an elite squad 4 times out of 7.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

You say "we" as if your a Boston fan' date=' but then you say nothing has changed since last yr?? That leads me to believe you don't know anything about the celtics ... The Garnett to center move is the most obvious? Allen coming off the bench to play with the 2nd team has greatly improved our bench scoring... Bradley as a starter has been amazing? The big 3 last yr were averaging almost 40 mins a gm last yr, this yr they are playing 31 mins a gm... We didn't have anyone of bass's caliber last yr, he avg's 13 pts and 6 reb a gm...pietrus is another viable 3-pt shooter that we didn't have last yr... Stiemsma avg's 1.5 blks a gm in 13 mins of playing time.... Lol, this team is COMPLETLY different than last yrs team[/quote']

 

No. It's the same squad, just shuffled around. I am a Celtics fan, just a realistic one.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Regular season stats don't mean dick' date=' especially against specific teams. What is that, a 4 game sample size at most? Lol. You sound like any ordinary Boston homer fishing for reasons as to why his obviously inferior team can beat an elite squad 4 times out of 7.[/quote']

 

It does mean something when you actually read everything i write......let me break it down one last time....our 4 and 5 bass and kg , can and DO hit 15-18 ft jumpers , which means the heats 4 and 5 HAVE to leave the box and come guard them.....which leaves a wide-open basket for rondo and pierce.....yeah it's a small sample size, but they can't stop rondo or pierce from scoring? We'll see what you have to say when rondo is averaging almost a triple-double against the heat.....

[ellsburyforMVP]

No. It's the same squad' date=' just shuffled around. I am a Celtics fan, just a realistic one.[/quote']

 

How can you say it's the same squad when the celts have 2 different starters, that 1- bass wasn't even with the team and the 2nd didn't get any playing time last yr??

Nate Robinson-18 mins per gm

Shaq-20 mins pg

Jeff green-24 mins pg

Von wafer-10 mins pg

Glen Davis-30 mins pg

Erden-15 mins pg

And believe it or not there's about 5 more guys I could put on here that aren't on this yrs team, but I figured if this doesn't prove you wrong in your mind.....nothing will.....bottom line I just named 6 guys that AREN'T on this yrs team, little math for ya, 48 mins per gm,5 players on the court at all times =240 mins of play times...these 6 accounted for 117 mins per gm....almost HALF the gm these guys played?? But yet it's the same team without them??

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

It does mean something when you actually read everything i write......let me break it down one last time....our 4 and 5 bass and kg ' date=' can and DO hit 15-18 ft jumpers , which means the heats 4 and 5 HAVE to leave the box and come guard them.....which leaves a wide-open basket for rondo and pierce.....yeah it's a small sample size, but they can't stop rondo or pierce from scoring? We'll see what you have to say when rondo is averaging almost a triple-double against the heat.....[/quote']

 

All the Heat starters are good enough defensively to handle the Celtic starters. Outside of that I don't even know what the f*** you're talking about, nor do I care.

 

How can you say it's the same squad when the celts have 2 different starters, that 1- bass wasn't even with the team and the 2nd didn't get any playing time last yr??

Nate Robinson-18 mins per gm

Shaq-20 mins pg

Jeff green-24 mins pg

Von wafer-10 mins pg

Glen Davis-30 mins pg

Erden-15 mins pg

And believe it or not there's about 5 more guys I could put on here that aren't on this yrs team, but I figured if this doesn't prove you wrong in your mind.....nothing will.....bottom line I just named 6 guys that AREN'T on this yrs team, little math for ya, 48 mins per gm,5 players on the court at all times =240 mins of play times...these 6 accounted for 117 mins per gm....almost HALF the gm these guys played?? But yet it's the same team without them??

 

I. Don't. Care. Rondo is still Rondo. Garnett, Pierce, and Allen are a year older. Same coach. Hammer on the supporting cast all you want, they're just that... a supporting cast. They mean next to nothing in a playoff matchup, especially when the core players are as outclassed as they are by the Heat. That's not even debatable.

 

And to think, I come to places like talksox for the explicit reason of getting away from the Boston homer ******** that poisons my facebook newsfeed.