Sox should Sign Millwood

[MANNYHOF24]

I know everyone is talking about A.J Burnett about the best F.A. avaliable, but not to be overlooked is A.L ERA champ Kevin Millwood, he is more of a proven pitcher and would be a nice fit in this rotation, i do realize that the Guardians will do everything to keep him there but i would be excited to get Millwood

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Kevin Millwood would end up fitting into the older-average pitcher group which we have plenty of. The only starting pitchers we should consider getting are young ace potential pitchers or already ace pitchers. I don't think I see Kevin Millwood being an ace to our staff despite his good season. He would be another #3 / #4 starter.

[MANNYHOF24]

He is only like 31 or 32 thats not too bad, plus we dont need an ace, i think Schill/paps will take care of that, i just dont see it nessacary to throw so much money at A.J when Millwood could be just as good or better

[MC Hammer]

I thought about the Sox adding Millwood but I just don't know. Remember he pitched his entire career in the NL, and last year was his first in the AL. Naturally he's going to look very good considering no one in the AL has seen him. Now, they have a year of scouting under their belts, so I doubt he'll be as effective next year. I wouldn't be totally against getting him, but I'm not crazy about the idea.

 

I think the Guardians have to bring Millwood back though.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Still....with Schilling, Papelbon, Wells, Clement, Arroyo, Wakefield, and Miller....is Millwood that big of an upgrade?

[jimmycarter05]

i think if we go after any pitchers this off season they should be leftys because of david wells health...if he gets hurt or traded, we won't have a lefty in our rotation...i think the only pitcher we need to go after is jarrod washburn and only sign him to a 1 year deal with a team option because we would have a great lefty in lester next year

[Manny Goes Boom]

If we were to get an Guardians pitcher I would want is Cliff Lee or C.C. Sabathia, and thats not happening, so go get someone else.

[riverside sluggers]

millwood is nearing a 3 season contract with the Guardians

 

Still....with Schilling, Papelbon, Wells, Clement, Arroyo, Wakefield, and Miller....is Millwood that big of an upgrade?

 

it would be considering not one of our starters this past season had an ERA of under 4

[ARod2212]

Another one year wonder? I'd shy away from Millwood, too inconsistent for my taste.

[thewarriorscode12]

i think if we go after any pitchers this off season they should be leftys because of david wells health...if he gets hurt or traded, we won't have a lefty in our rotation...i think the only pitcher we need to go after is jarrod washburn and only sign him to a 1 year deal with a team option because we would have a great lefty in lester next year

Jarrod Washburn? I haven't even heard much about him. He'd be a pretty nice addition.

[example1]

i think if we go after any pitchers this off season they should be leftys because of david wells health...if he gets hurt or traded, we won't have a lefty in our rotation...i think the only pitcher we need to go after is jarrod washburn and only sign him to a 1 year deal with a team option because we would have a great lefty in lester next year

 

Why do we need a lefty starter? I think the point was made earlier that in 2004 we didn't have a lefty and we won the WS. Lefties seem important for relieving, not for starting.

[Cityofchampions33]

We already have 6 pitchers. We have farm talent comin up. He's aging and past his prime, and is just another #3 starter. Honestly, theres no point to signing him, as its been said, he will be less effective now that everyone has seen him. Personally I don't think we need to sign anyone big this off-season, besides B.J. Ryan. This is the advantage of having a good farm system. We don't NEED Damon because we have 3 good OF spects + Hanley if needed coming up. We don't NEED Millwood because we have Papy, maybe Lester, and possibly Sanchez coming up. We dont NEED Mueller becuase we have Youkilis.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Another one year wonder? I'd shy away from Millwood, too inconsistent for my taste.

 

Thank you. Everyone can say what they want about Millwood but he is his 30s and he had a good season in the AL Central where a lot of his games come against the Twins, Kansas City, and Detroit....I mean talk about offensive power house teams. Compare that to having to play against the Yanks, Orioles......just no

 

The Sox should stop bringing in older pitchers...get younger or if you want an older pitcher...you get guys with the abilities of Schilling or Johnson....even then I would say wait until the right trade comes along for a dominating pitcher....not Kevin Millwood

[thewarriorscode12]

Thank you. Everyone can say what they want about Millwood but he is his 30s and he had a good season in the AL Central where a lot of his games come against the Twins, Kansas City, and Detroit....I mean talk about offensive power house teams. Compare that to having to play against the Yanks, Orioles......just no

 

The Sox should stop bringing in older pitchers...get younger or if you want an older pitcher...you get guys with the abilities of Schilling or Johnson....even then I would say wait until the right trade comes along for a dominating pitcher....not Kevin Millwood

Exactly. We can't fall into that trap that Yankees currently find themselves, bringing in and overpaying aging players.

[Ray10]

I'd rather they went after someone like Washburn or Morris over Millwood. I like them better in the rotation cause the Sox really don't need an ace for the staff we still have Schilling and Wakefield. Those guys would fit in well as a 3rd or 4th starter.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

I'd rather they went after someone like Washburn or Morris over Millwood. I like them better in the rotation cause the Sox really don't need an ace for the staff we still have Schilling and Wakefield. Those guys would fit in well as a 3rd or 4th starter.

 

Now I don't get that. Why would you settle for a #3 / #4 or #5 guy. I want a whole team full of ace caliber pitchers. Now signing those guys are tough so the best way is to get young talent who can become top pitchers....that sounds like a better idea to me then just settling for an average pitcher who can eat up some starts.

[MANNYHOF24]

Now I don't get that. Why would you settle for a #3 / #4 or #5 guy. I want a whole team full of ace caliber pitchers. Now signing those guys are tough so the best way is to get young talent who can become top pitchers....that sounds like a better idea to me then just settling for an average pitcher who can eat up some starts.

 

Good luck with that, what the hell are you talking about, there are no aces available; washburn Morris or Millwood would be a great pick up to go along with Schill, Paps, the 3 i mentioned wake and clement. Arroyo bullpen; Wells retired

[Cityofchampions33]

Good luck with that, what the hell are you talking about, there are no aces available; washburn Morris or Millwood would be a great pick up to go along with Schill, Paps, the 3 i mentioned wake and clement. Arroyo bullpen; Wells retired

 

Who says we have to sign any pitchers this off-season? Papelbon is looking more like an early Clemens each time he pitches, and if develops a consistent splitter will be lights-out. What Schillisthenatural is saying is that we shouldn't sign middle-of-the-rotation guys when we already have 4 of em, and that we should wait. In no way would signing those guys help our rotation, theyre 30+, out of their prime, and will probably want a big contract.

[riverside sluggers]

Who says we have to sign any pitchers this off-season? Papelbon is looking more like an early Clemens each time he pitches, and if develops a consistent splitter will be lights-out. What Schillisthenatural is saying is that we shouldn't sign middle-of-the-rotation guys when we already have 4 of em, and that we should wait. In no way would signing those guys help our rotation, theyre 30+, out of their prime, and will probably want a big contract.

 

Schilling, Wakefield and Clement are all thus far guaranteed to come back to 2006.

 

Bronson Arroyo could be trade bait for a 1st baseman deal, and Sox are looking to accomodate Wells requesting a trade to a team in the west.

 

so it is possible to sign a free agent starting pitcher, with paps getting the other spot of course

 

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Update: The Orioles hope to be in the hunt to sign Millwood, now that they've signed Leo Mazzone to be their pitching coach, the Baltimore Sun reports. The article mentions both Millwood and Paul Byrd as potential targets, because both pitched under Mazzone in Atlanta.

[yankeessuck013]

Millwood will be expensive, which isnt a good thing since he has a history of doing great one year, and then following up with a few bad years. And one very good year in the AL, does not make him proven. I have to believe he goes to either CLE or BAL, where the pitching coaches will be likely to keep him steady.

 

Byrd has had 3 straight sub-4 ERA seasons, has only improved since having surgery in 2003, and will be cheaper than Millwood. With a much better FA pool for pitching after 2006 the FO shouldn't spend a lot on someone with Millwoods history of inconsistancy.

[riverside sluggers]

if anybody, the main startin pitcher free agent sox should set their sights on is AJ Burnett who in 4 out of 7 seasons including 2005, has had ERAs of under 3.75

 

lets say both bronson and wells end up traded

 

1. Schilling

2. Burnett

3. Papelbon

4. Wakefield

5. Clement

[jimmycarter05]

Millwood will be expensive, which isnt a good thing since he has a history of doing great one year, and then following up with a few bad years. And one very good year in the AL, does not make him proven. I have to believe he goes to either CLE or BAL, where the pitching coaches will be likely to keep him steady.

 

Byrd has had 3 straight sub-4 ERA seasons, has only improved since having surgery in 2003, and will be cheaper than Millwood. With a much better FA pool for pitching after 2006 the FO shouldn't spend a lot on someone with Millwoods history of inconsistancy.

 

 

yes i agree...i think to save a whole lot of money we should go with byrd,who has also been in the post seaon alot

[example1]

The sox will make a big push at Burnett. At least if they get him then people will still be saying "How about 'dem Sox chances?' rather than "they don't have a very good club, or they're rebuilding". They could sign Burnett to 4-5 years and he'd be ready to go just about when their newest generation of studs is hitting their strides. Then they could keep him (if he's the ace they hope he will be), trade him near the deadline (to help fill a hole) or just let him go.

 

In any case, given that we lose Schilling next year and wakefield any day now I'm sure the Sox will make a BIG push for AJ.

 

I don't think he's the second coming of Pedro, but he does have really good stuff and when he's on he can just shut the door. Hopefully Varitek would have a positive influence and he can get his head on his shoulders.

[Sizzlin22]

Ok if anyone watched Burnett in th second half of the season they would know he's probabaly the best F.A on he market.

 

Millwood is in his 30's and has had one good season, I hate one hit wonders.

 

Ideally I would like the rotation to look like this

 

1.Schilling

2.Burnett

3.Wells

4.Wakefield

5. Papelbon

(Sorry guys Papelbons still a 5 untill he pitches a full year in the bigs.)

 

Is this going to happen? Probabaly not too many variable come into play (the signability of Burnett, Wells' potential retirement, Schillings health, injury etc.) But ideally that's what you would want the rotation to look like.

[ORS]

The sox will make a big push at Burnett. At least if they get him then people will still be saying "How about 'dem Sox chances?' rather than "they don't have a very good club, or they're rebuilding". They could sign Burnett to 4-5 years and he'd be ready to go just about when their newest generation of studs is hitting their strides. Then they could keep him (if he's the ace they hope he will be), trade him near the deadline (to help fill a hole) or just let him go.

I don't see them going hard after him because he's too risky. He's a .500 pitcher with a career ERA+ of 110, which means he's league average, and he's had injury troubles. Yeah, his stuff is electric, but he doesn't seem to have much control of it. Forget throwers, get people that can pitch.

 

In any case, given that we lose Schilling next year and wakefield any day now I'm sure the Sox will make a BIG push for AJ.

We have Curt for two more years. His contract had an option for '07 that became guaranteed when they won the Series last year.

 

If he was flying under the radar, then I'd say take a shot with him. But there has been a lot of hype around him, so the price to land him will be greater than what he can deliver IMO.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Good luck with that, what the hell are you talking about, there are no aces available; washburn Morris or Millwood would be a great pick up to go along with Schill, Paps, the 3 i mentioned wake and clement. Arroyo bullpen; Wells retired

 

Exactly....so I don't want these guys. Whats the point of throwing money at just another average pitcher to add to our collection. Its money spent that doesn't need to be. I would just assume sit with a rotation involving Arroyo, Clement, Wake, Papelbon and Schilling rather than get more pitching like Washburn, Morris, and Millwood who would not distinguish themselves from the current group. It gives us a stupid amount of starters so whats the point? Unless an ace was available or could be aquired from a trade then why bother? There will be better pitchers available later in the season when certain guys can't get signed to an extension and there is a good chance the market will be better for starting pitching in a year anyways. Filling a hole with a 30 year old veteran who had a decent season against weak competition and his career is defined should not be the route the Red Sox go.....let the Yankees make those moves.