Yankeesrule:

[MC Hammer]

I don't think a regular season record decides who the best team is, unless the teams play the exact same schedule. The Cards had 3 push overs in their own division, and the AL was certainly tougher than the NL last year. Our rotation was better, and our offense was better. I don't care what our record was, or where we finished.

 

BTW 9/10 the best team will win a 7 game series

[MC Hammer]

because they cant take a loss, when we lose we get destroyed on this site, btu when we win they minimize it by bringing up other s*** like talking about our staff or whatever other flaw they choose to talk about.

 

BTW, im kind of lost, you guys always accuse us of needing to buy big stars to win or whatever, and now that some lower-level pitchers have stepped up you say that its not enough. If you ask me, the contributions that Small and Chacon have made since arriving have been phenominal. And since Wright came off the DL, with the exception of 1 start, he has been very good as well. Randy has been piecing it together lately, as you chowder heads saw today, and while Wang is not the same pitcher now that he was earlier, theres still the chance that he can become that. Hes only had 1 f***in start (2 if you count his rehab start in Columbus). But whatever he does, and whether its out of the pen or in the rotation, it can only help us. Al Leiter has been a mystifying puzzle since we got him, but I would prefer him in the pen than Wayne "I Lose Games" Franklin. Its not unlikely that Moose comes back and is still a reliable starter. And last but not least, we have a guy named Mariano Rivera. So considering all of the s*** that the 2005 New York Yankees have had to go through, with injuries and whatnot, I cant complain about the pitching staff right now.

 

 

Umm.....a lot of people OUTSIDE of New York believe the Jets have a chance against the Pats.

 

I'll say it for the ... geeze what it is now ... 374598673245876329856983265 millionth time. IT'S TALKSOX ... NOT TALKYANKEES. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY WE TALK ABOUT THE YANKEES ... LEAVE!

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Yeah ok, if you want 100 % Yankee optimism go over to the YES boards. Funny by the way you just started to come back like other Yankee fans when they started to win again little by little.

what about the Yankee fans that have been here the whole time??

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I don't think a regular season record decides who the best team is, unless the teams play the exact same schedule. The Cards had 3 push overs in their own division, and the AL was certainly tougher than the NL last year. Our rotation was better, and our offense was better. I don't care what our record was, or where we finished.

 

BTW 9/10 the best team will win a 7 game series

I can debunk that right now..the Yankees were obviously the better team in 2003, but we lost, and we were the better team in 2001, but we lost..thats 2 right there...so there goes your theory

[MC Hammer]

I can debunk that right now..the Yankees were obviously the better team in 2003, but we lost, and we were the better team in 2001, but we lost..thats 2 right there...so there goes your theory

You're right ... I forgot to factor in the Yankee choke ratio. My bad.

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Looks like the Yankee bandwagon is back to near full load.

if anybodys on a bandwagon its you...I thought Texans were supposed to be these proud bunch of people, im curious what has you rooting for the Sox as opposed to the Rangers or Astros??

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You're right ... I forgot to factor in the Yankee choke ratio. My bad.

haha I love how ignorant you guys get...win a championship and history goes out the window...must I remind you of your COUNTLESS chokes?

[ORS]

I can debunk that right now..the Yankees were obviously the better team in 2003, but we lost, and we were the better team in 2001, but we lost..thats 2 right there...so there goes your theory

The Yankees competed in both of those series. And, while what MC says about 9/10 times the better team winning is true, the 1/10 usually occurs when the other team has good pitchers in a short series, which is exactly what happened to the Yankees.

 

When Seattle won 110+ games they lost to the Yankees (the better team).

 

As far as last years series goes, the Cardinals got swept. Williams/Morris/Haren/Suppan vs. Wakefield/Schilling/Martinez/Lowe.......I can't believe you are actually trying to argue this point. Just another example of you being unable to look beyond your bias.

[MC Hammer]

haha I love how ignorant you guys get...win a championship and history goes out the window...must I remind you of your COUNTLESS chokes?

How many of them took place in a 5 year span? I've never seen a team choke this many times in 5 years.

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The Yankees competed in both of those series. And, while what MC says about 9/10 times the better team winning is true, the 1/10 usually occurs when the other team has good pitchers in a short series, which is exactly what happened to the Yankees.

 

When Seattle won 110+ games they lost to the Yankees (the better team).

 

As far as last years series goes, the Cardinals got swept. Williams/Morris/Haren/Suppan vs. Wakefield/Schilling/Martinez/Lowe.......I can't believe you are actually trying to argue this point. Just another example of you being unable to look beyond your bias.

wrong, if you want you can go back and check all of my posts, when the red Sox deserve credit, 9 times out of 10 i give it ( the 1 time I dont is when the Yankees are getting baqshed in the same thread).

 

How many of them took place in a 5 year span? I've never seen a team choke this many times in 5 years.

I dont exactly consider those chokes, with the exception of last year..2001 can MAYBE be considered a choke because of how close we were to winning, but 2003 wasnt a choke, it was a LOSS. Theres a difference, throughout the history of the Red Sox, they have done both so much, im surprised you were unable to tell the difference.

[ORS]

That's ********, otherwise you would admit that the Sox were a better team than a team they swept. The White Sox will have home field advantage in this year's AL playoffs. Will they be the best team in the AL? I'd place them as the 4th maybe 5th best.

[MC Hammer]

I dont exactly consider those chokes, with the exception of last year..2001 can MAYBE be considered a choke because of how close we were to winning, but 2003 wasnt a choke, it was a LOSS. Theres a difference, throughout the history of the Red Sox, they have done both so much, im surprised you were unable to tell the difference.

When the best team loses isn't that choking?

 

Anyway, you can keep making fun of the Sox all you want for choking, because you know whats really funny? From now until the end of time whenever the word choking is mentioned, the 2004 Yankees will be mentioned right after it. Whenever a team goes up 3-0 in a series "The biggest choke in sports history" will be brought up. So make whatever jokes you want but when you're watching the playoffs this year just hope no one goes up 3-0.

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That's ********, otherwise you would admit that the Sox were a better team than a team they swept. The White Sox will have home field advantage in this year's AL playoffs. Will they be the best team in the AL? I'd place them as the 4th maybe 5th best.

you're getting me all wrong on the point about the Sox and Cards, nobody can argue that the Sox were the better team in the World Series, for christ's sake they DESTROYED St. Louis. But what I am saying is that St. Louis was the best team in the Majors last year.

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When the best team loses isn't that choking?

 

Anyway, you can keep making fun of the Sox all you want for choking, because you know whats really funny? From now until the end of time whenever the word choking is mentioned, the 2004 Yankees will be mentioned right after it. Whenever a team goes up 3-0 in a series "The biggest choke in sports history" will be brought up. So make whatever jokes you want but when you're watching the playoffs this year just hope no one goes up 3-0.

hey man, say what you need about last year. Yes, we did choke, and no we're not denying it. The only one denying chokes here are you guys. Because you won last year all of a sudden the past is erased. It doesnt work that way. I can live up to my team's losses. If you guys are able to live up to the Red Sox wins, then you have to be able to live up to the losses.

[ORS]

you're getting me all wrong on the point about the Sox and Cards, nobody can argue that the Sox were the better team in the World Series, for christ's sake they DESTROYED St. Louis. But what I am saying is that St. Louis was the best team in the Majors last year.

If you want to go on believing that the team with the best regular season record is the best team, then I won't try and dissuade you from that notion. I will say this though. I have seen too many teams compile the best record with a little smoke and mirrors, so I prefer to look at the lineups and pitching staffs when I make that decision.

[MC Hammer]

hey man, say what you need about last year. Yes, we did choke, and no we're not denying it. The only one denying chokes here are you guys. Because you won last year all of a sudden the past is erased. It doesnt work that way. I can live up to my team's losses. If you guys are able to live up to the Red Sox wins, then you have to be able to live up to the losses.

I think we lived up to those losses our entire lives, and it's all we heard about until last year. I think RSN had to live up to those losses for 86 years. Stop acting like you've ever lived through hard times as a 90's Yankee fan. You haven't even been able to understand baseball for a decade yet ... come back to me when you live through half the heart breaks we have. The earliest you could have possibly understood the game was in '94, so all you've seen is winning teams ... just wait a few years and see how tough you are.

 

I think someone is just very bitter right now.

[YANKEESRULE]

Well I guess if this thread is directed at me, I guess I'll post. First off, great baseball game today. I hate and love games like that. My heart was in my throat all game. The yanks are not out of it. If they would have lost today then yes, the yanks would be done. Schilling to give him credit pitched well, but I still think he's a pompus ass you likes to get attention. He's still a media whore and still opens his fat ass mouth. Its not because he pitches for the Sox(although that amplifies it) I have hated him his whole career. Like I said great game today. great game if you win and dishearting if you lose. Luckliy we came out on top.

[example1]

I wasn't dishearted by it at all. Wakefield outpitched RJ and we made Mariano Nervous at the end of the game in a game which we played without Ortiz, Varitek or Nixon in the regular lineup. We took one of three IN new york and only gave up one game in the standings. Most Yanks fans were, I'm sure, hoping for a sweep and they didn't get it. I'm not disheartened... of course, I was for a minute after the game, but I'm fine now.

[HOFer51]

I wasn't dishearted by it at all. Wakefield outpitched RJ and we made Mariano Nervous at the end of the game in a game which we played without Ortiz, Varitek or Nixon in the regular lineup. We took one of three IN new york and only gave up one game in the standings. Most Yanks fans were, I'm sure, hoping for a sweep and they didn't get it. I'm not disheartened... of course, I was for a minute after the game, but I'm fine now.

Woah....Wakefield outpitched RJ when he gives up 1 more run and 2 more hits? What game were you watching?

and the Mariano nervous stuff is BS. You had bases loaded 0 outs AT FENWAY and he didnt give up a run to you guys. Making someone nervous doesnt matter unless you actually score. Besides, Mariano doesnt get rattled too easily by the pressure of the situation, in case you havent noticed.

 

Sorry, just had to get it out there.

[ORS]

Woah....Wakefield outpitched RJ when he gives up 1 more run and 2 more hits? What game were you watching?

As much as I loved Wake's performance today, I have to agree with you. RJ dominated. Six inches from a pick-'em, but it is a game of inches isn't it?

[riverside sluggers]

wake did out pitch RJ on whiffs, 12 Ks which was Wake's career high in a game thus far

[ARod2212]

wake did out pitch RJ on whiffs, 12 Ks which was Wake's career high in a game thus far

He out K'd Johnson, but guess what. Unit out 'won' the game, and that's all that matters. Wakefield 1 run, Johnson 0 runs. Guess who the winner is.

 

You take the strikeouts, I'll take the game in the standings.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

He out K'd Johnson, but guess what. Unit out 'won' the game, and that's all that matters. Wakefield 1 run, Johnson 0 runs. Guess who the winner is.

 

You take the strikeouts, I'll take the game in the standings.

The point was that, in consolation, Wakefield hit a season high for strikeouts, even more than RJ ( a consistent strike out leader ). Obviously the Yanks won the game, and RJ got the "win" . But he may not have, if it weren't for Rivera. It was a well pitched and played game worthy of this storied rivalry. It should be a very interesting and exciting three weeks or so. Let's enjoy the ride.

[sarasoxfan]

my hats off to johnson. that was a tremendous clutch performance and he completely dominated us.

 

congrats empire...you guys desreved thatgame.

 

it was fun to watch, well, fun in a perverse gut wrenching way.

[ARod2212]

The point was that, in consolation, Wakefield hit a season high for strikeouts, even more than RJ ( a consistent strike out leader ). Obviously the Yanks won the game, and RJ got the "win" . But he may not have, if it weren't for Rivera. It was a well pitched and played game worthy of this storied rivalry. It should be a very interesting and exciting three weeks or so. Let's enjoy the ride.

I understand, just seems that whenever a Yankee has a good game somebody says the guy from Boston was better.

 

And I'm dying to see this stretch run to see how it plays out.

[MC Hammer]

I understand, just seems that whenever a Yankee has a good game somebody says the guy from Boston was better.

 

And I'm dying to see this stretch run to see how it plays out.

Can you give another example of this happening, because I can't say I remember one.

 

I'm also dying to see the stretch run, but only because I'm not yet able to count the amount of laughs I will have when the Yankees are sitting at home in October.

[riverside sluggers]

Even if the Sox just go 10-10 for rest of the season they would have a record of 93-69. For the Yankees to tie that theyd still have to go 13-7 rest of the way

[Optimist]

I'm also dying to see the stretch run, but only because I'm not yet able to count the amount of laughs I will have when the Yankees are sitting at home in October.

 

...at which point you'll wake up?

[RedRuffing15]

Even if the Sox just go 10-10 for rest of the season they would have a record of 93-69. For the Yankees to tie that theyd still have to go 13-7 rest of the way

 

But the thing is, we still play 3 game vs each other, so it changes a lot of things. Maybe if we didn't play 3 vs each other, I could understand the hardness of that which we need to do, but because we play 3 games vs each other, if the Sox go 10-10, the Yankees could go 10-10, though it'd be very hard to sweep the Sox in Fenway, but the fact that its possable makes it that much better. So even a one or 2 game difference between the two when the Sox play the Yankees in Boston could make a huge difference

[ORS]

Maybe if we didn't play 3 vs each other, I could understand the hardness of that which we need to do, but because we play 3 games vs each other, if the Sox go 10-10, the Yankees could go 10-10, though it'd be very hard to sweep the Sox in Fenway, but the fact that its possable makes it that much better.