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Trading Cano is not the way to go, he shows great talent. Moving Jeet to CF no, shop Sheff crazy talk. Our pitching is the problem, IF Pavano and Wright come back healthy and effective that could be a plus. While most contender's starters are racking up innings, and if these guys ( Pavy Wright) are any good they will be nice and fresh. We need bullpen help, cause Torre can't use Strurtze, Gordon, Rivera every game. Is Redding's ERA that high, damn! There are my two cents.
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26 to 6: You added the "Numbers Don't Lie" part. Hee! :D

 

Psst - it's the THREAT of trade that apparently jump-starts these players...so I'm all for dangling them as bait if it works. :dunno:

 

Sori would love to come to the Yankees, but now that Cano's developing, he would pretty much have to switch positions. Don't think he's the answer though, and the Rangers are pretty much in the same position we are in; desparately needing pitching to keep up with the Angels and outduel the A's...yeah, right.

 

Poll on best Yankees transaction in recent history - this is exactly ON deadline day.

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O'Neil was traded for, Tino was traded for, Girardi was traded for, Clemens was traded for, and Moose is the only guy on that list that was signed as a free agent

 

O'Neil---Roberto Kelly (CIN)

Martinez---Sterling Hitchcock deal (along with Nelson) (SEA)

Girardi---forgot who we traded for him (COL)

Clemens---David Wells, Homer Bush, Graeme Loyd (TOR)

 

so not only could Stcik develop, but he could trade (O'Neil was him, Tino was him, Girardi was him, Clemens was Cashman)

I didn't feel like digging up the specifics. Should have used a more concise "free-agency/trade market". I just meant to point out that they weren't home grown talent.

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O'Neil was traded for, Tino was traded for, Girardi was traded for, Clemens was traded for, and Moose is the only guy on that list that was signed as a free agent

 

O'Neil---Roberto Kelly (CIN)

Martinez---Sterling Hitchcock deal (along with Nelson) (SEA)

Girardi---forgot who we traded for him (COL)

Clemens---David Wells, Homer Bush, Graeme Loyd (TOR)

 

so not only could Stcik develop, but he could trade (O'Neil was him, Tino was him, Girardi was him, Clemens was Cashman)

 

Giradi was FA from Colorado, signed from Zim's advice.

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Trade womack for a low priced center fielder and sign hem long term. Then bring up duncan when hes ready.

 

Problems arise in those ideas. No one would trade a young CF for Tony Womack, or any low priced one. Duncan doesn't look even close to ready.

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It's all in our pitching. They seem to always make bad choices when looking for starters. We need young, healthy pitchers. We've basically lost all of ours to the DL..
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I'd tell Steinbrenner to f*** off. I'd let Brian Cashman and Stick Michael run the team.

 

 

We'd probably see Stick, and Cashman's head on pikes that they could put in monument park as a warning.

 

Your right though, Cash and Stick should run the team.

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Send Alex Rodriguez to Boston....

 

We don't need him, we only have the best offense in the ML

 

I found this funny

 

According to WFAN The Yankees have Rejected the offer by Tampa Bay..

 

Tampa wanted Eric Duncan for Danny Baez, sounds like a trade that would help the yankees because duncan is doing horrible in the minors and they need Bullpen help as much as we do.

 

wonder what cashman is going to do next.....5 days and counting!

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A lot of trades have been shot down...no idea what's going over there - with Cashman, or Tampa faction, don't know. But if there's prospects involved (whatever litttttle we have left), it's probably not going to happen - cash is the more viable option.

 

95 wins, baby, let's do this! :D

 

Looks like we're talking a page out of the Red Sox book and sticking Wright into the bullpen. Might work. Padres did try this. But still. Could it be worse than...Redding, May, Franklin, Gramin, Anderson, etc.? Take some pressure of TanGorMo. And we'll be needing looooooong-relief everytime Brown starts. <_>

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I really don't mind Wright in the bullpen. I would trust him, like you said, more than any of those "pitchers". Plus, the Yanks might be getting lefty specialist Dennys Reyes, who was released by the Padres yesterday. We'll see.
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Ohh this better not be a "Paul Quantrill-for-TWO-Paul Quantrill-s" type-of-thing. :lol:

 

Word is he'd join by mid-to-late August. He seems to do fine for two innings. Heh?

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Tampa wanted Eric Duncan for Danny Baez, sounds like a trade that would help the yankees because duncan is doing horrible in the minors and they need Bullpen help as much as we do.

Duncan isn't doing horrible. His OBP at 20 years old is outstanding, not to mention his XBH and RBI totals are very, very good. He is just 20 and he was rushed up to AA. He obviously isn't ready for AA, but the organization felt his makeup is so great he could fail in Trenton and it wouldn't effect him.

 

Trading someone with Duncan's talent and power for a set-up man, is ridiculous, especially trading him within the division.

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Duncan isn't doing horrible. His OBP at 20 years old is outstanding, not to mention his XBH and RBI totals are very, very good. He is just 20 and he was rushed up to AA. He obviously isn't ready for AA, but the organization felt his makeup is so great he could fail in Trenton and it wouldn't effect him.

 

Trading someone with Duncan's talent and power for a set-up man, is ridiculous, especially trading him within the division.

how was he rushed up, he was playing in Class A Tampa last year (after being called up from Battle Creek)...AA is the next stop, he thrived in Tampa, it made sense to move him to Trenton

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Giradi was FA from Colorado, signed from Zim's advice.

i appologize, i knew he was reccomended by Zim, I thought they traded for him though, my mistake

 

...Tek, i got the point, i was just making the correction, no biggie

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26 to 6: You added the "Numbers Don't Lie" part. Hee! :D

 

Psst - it's the THREAT of trade that apparently jump-starts these players...so I'm all for dangling them as bait if it works. :dunno:

 

Sori would love to come to the Yankees, but now that Cano's developing, he would pretty much have to switch positions. Don't think he's the answer though, and the Rangers are pretty much in the same position we are in; desparately needing pitching to keep up with the Angels and outduel the A's...yeah, right.

 

Poll on best Yankees transaction in recent history - this is exactly ON deadline day.

yea he would definately love to come back, but refuses to change positions, i think if this mets trade goes through it should greatly benefit him and the mets to have him reunited with his mentor, Willie

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Mets are going to turn into the Yankees if they pursue big contracts with no production... *cough* Where ya at, Beltran??

 

It's unlikely that Sori will be moved; heard on "Cold Pizza" that the Texas Rangers Owner loves him. We do, too. But if you're coming here again...START HUSTLING! :D

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Mets are going to turn into the Yankees if they pursue big contracts with no production... *cough* Where ya at, Beltran??

 

It's unlikely that Sori will be moved; heard on "Cold Pizza" that the Texas Rangers Owner loves him. We do, too. But if you're coming here again...START HUSTLING! :D

i wouldnt say sori is a contract with no production, name me a more productive, AVAILABLE second basemen, or eben just a more productive 2B (and please dont say Bret Boone, thats ridiculous, and dont say Cano either, hes still a rookie and i dont think i can throw him in there with Sori quite yet, but no doubt ill be able to sooner than later).

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i wouldnt say sori is a contract with no production, name me a more productive, AVAILABLE second basemen, or eben just a more productive 2B (and please dont say Bret Boone, thats ridiculous, and dont say Cano either, hes still a rookie and i dont think i can throw him in there with Sori quite yet, but no doubt ill be able to sooner than later).

Brian Roberts is the best second baseman in baseball, but yoda says, "Available, he is not".

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Brian Roberts is the best second baseman in baseball, but yoda says, "Available, he is not".

i still need to see more from Roberts....one season doesnt do much for me...if he can produce a similar year next season then hes got my vote

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You are the one that said name a more productive 2B. However, you didn't say name a more productive 2B from last year, or career stats. Production is, "What have you done for me lately?". Roberts is a better hitter, more disciplined at the plate, better on the basepaths, and a better fielder. Soriano hits more homeruns.
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Soriano is probably the best second baseman around as far as average and power go, but god his OBP is soooo low, he never walks.

Roberts hits .333, slugs .561, OBP .407

Soriano hits .281, slugs .545, OBP .316

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You are the one that said name a more productive 2B. However, you didn't say name a more productive 2B from last year, or career stats. Production is, "What have you done for me lately?". Roberts is a better hitter, more disciplined at the plate, better on the basepaths, and a better fielder. Soriano hits more homeruns.

yea, but im not talking about who can i plug in there to get results from for just today, im talking about the fututre as well, just because roberts is having this great season doesnt mean that he will have similar seasons consistantly throughout his career, but Soriano is already proven, so right this second my vote goes to him

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Err - but we don't need a 2B man. Cano's hitting well, and when he gets more field work he'll do better with the glove.

 

26 to 6: What do you think about going after Canseco? He'd fit in great with Sheff and Giambi, right? And how about Jennie Finch for some pitching? VH1 could start a show, "Surviving Kevin Brown" - all we'd ask for in return is a bag of chips and a carbonated drink. There'd have to be an on-set chiropractor, and BBB's not real "bendy" - so the pole stuff or whatever that Conseco tried would not work...(it's only as distrubing as seeing him pitch).

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"Canseco? He'd fit in great with Sheff and Giambi, right?"

 

They'd need to use a different kind of gloves for that show!

 

I'd pay a few bucks to see it.

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