How would you fix the Yankees?

[CrespoBlows]

Let's play Virtual GM for a moment, post your ideas, and your reasons why, on how to fix the Yankees. I'll do mine later tonight.

[yeszir]

That's Cashman's problem! Durrr.

 

I'd lose the 'win now at all costs' attitude and stop spending money on the best available. I won't call it rebuilding, but lets say I would plan with an eye for the future.

[YankeeDoodle]

Oh my gosh Crespo, you are just ALL over the Yankees organization and their fans, aren't ya?

 

I'm getting Cashman a crystal ball. Nothing like having hindsight in the present.

[ORS]

The free-agency and trade market is killing them. They are trading the future away. Losing draft picks due to free-agent signings, which futher depletes the cupboard. Absorbing huge salaries that make most trades undoable because no one else will spend that kind of money, which means all their trades have to come from the farm system. Let baseball people run the show and George sign the checks.

[Boogie]

Well I am George's antithesis as a Yankee fan.

 

My first thing would be shop Sheffield. See what you could get for him, preferably searching for starters. He is a great hitter who doesn't make a great hitters salary. He is a cancer to the team with his mouth and is selfish and is an anti-Yankee. If you could pull Burnett or Schmidt in a three-team swap while giving up Sheffield, you have to pull the trigger. This obviously leaves a huge hole in right-field, but I would be very willing to give up talent such as Melky Cabrera, Edwardo Sierra, Scott Proctor, etc... to acquire a stop-gap rightfielder. The resurgence of Jason's bat makes him expendable

 

I would obviously invest more money in the scouting department, international and internal. Let this year play out without Sheff and with the pitcher. If the pitcher plays up to some sort of quality, sign them, three years the max length. Avoid trading Duncan (first base in a few years), Cano, Cox, Hughes, Carl Henry, and a few other assorted recent draftees and 19-20 year olds. A system rebuilding process must be completed.

 

Resign Matsui at all costs. Trade Posada at all costs and then sign Ramon Hernandez. If we sign Ramon Hernandez that leaves an obvious hole on the San Diego Padres roster, as far as the catcher position goes. Trade him there perhaps, while picking up most of his contract.

 

Here is a strange move I have thought over time and time again. Move Derek Jeter to centerfield and put A-Rod back at shortstop. Although this is very sketchy and still leave a big hole, I think Jeter is more of a centerfielder than a shortstop and A-Rod is the best fielding shortstop in baseball next to Vizquel. This puts Alex back at short. Now, with the Padres so very down on Sean Burroughs, perhaps maybe he would be swapped for Posada. Maybe he would flash more power with the short-porch in Yankee Stadium and perhaps the gap in death valley would help him push his average up

 

...I'm not done, I'll update it later.

[snb988]

Middle BP help is probably needed the most, IMO. Torre cannot keep using TanGorMo. He needs to learn to trust other guys out there and they really need a left specialist. I don't mind Crosby in center and wouldn't mind the Yanks staying with him. The last thing the Yanks need is another big contract old guy (Ken Griffey Jr.). Starting pitching also is an obvious must.

[Sizzlin22]

I go for a strong starting pitcher on the trade market, but not for the top 3 prospects, give up a little bit but hold on to the future.

[YankeeDoodle]

Middle BP help is probably needed the most, IMO. Torre cannot keep using TanGorMo. He needs to learn to trust other guys out there and they really need a left specialist. I don't mind Crosby in center and wouldn't mind the Yanks staying with him. The last thing the Yanks need is another big contract old guy (Ken Griffey Jr.). Starting pitching also is an obvious must.

Hey Sara, welcome to the boards. Gehrig's still my favorite Yankee.

 

Phooey, I can't pinpoint the exact Cashman quote, but he stated that's not interested in shopping Cano and Wang (I suppose Duncan would be there too) - however, he ended by saying that it's not really his decision to make. If Steinbrenner only signs the check - who runs this organization - Darth Vader? Even though they would shell out cash instead of prospects, the Griffey Jr. trade is not likely happening.

 

Hmph, Angels bullpen - if we only had a sliver of that. <_ once pavano gets healthy within the next couple of weeks hopefully...that leaves one sp position open. and this is penciling in leiter brown who should still be on dl since his back not well at all but so state yankees. remains to seen if f-rod can help out relief flash looks worn.>

 

Seeing all these pitchers go down...is it a mechanics problem? Wright was injury-prone even in Atlanta, and there's no pitching coach better than Leo Mazzone - but what is it? :dunno:

[ORS]

If Steinbrenner only signs the check - who runs this organization - Darth Vader?

And I thought you were one of those "informed" Yankee fans. Oh well, you have bluffed well up to this point.

 

George did the same things in the 80's that he is doing now. Namely, managing the Yankees into mediocrity by paying for high priced talent while running the farm system into the ground. Jesse Barfield ring a bell?

 

Then he decides to hand the reigns over to Gene "Stick" Michael, who rebuilt the farm system which produced several good players. Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Jorge Posada, Andy Petite, and Mariano Rivera to name a few. Stick then filled whatever holes the farm system couldn't via free-agency. Enter Paul Oneil, Tino Martinez, Joe Girardi, Roger Clemens, Mike Mussina, and others.

 

Yes, the Yankees still spent more than anyone else (as they have since George bought the team), but they had a healthy core of home grown talent performing on the field.

 

Unfortunately as the Yankee dynasty grew, George decided to take a more active role in personnel decisions. Thus began another era of "star-gazing".

 

I think George is the best owner in baseball because he is committed to winning at any cost, but the man just doesn't know baseball well enough to make key personnel decisions.

[snb988]

Hey Sara, welcome to the boards. Gehrig's still my favorite Yankee.

 

Phooey, I can't pinpoint the exact Cashman quote, but he stated that's not interested in shopping Cano and Wang (I suppose Duncan would be there too) - however, he ended by saying that it's not really his decision to make. If Steinbrenner only signs the check - who runs this organization - Darth Vader? Even though they would shell out cash instead of prospects, the Griffey Jr. trade is not likely happening.

 

Hmph, Angels bullpen - if we only had a sliver of that. <_ once pavano gets healthy within the next couple of weeks hopefully...that leaves one sp position open. and this is penciling in leiter brown who should still be on dl since his back not well at all but so state yankees. remains to seen if f-rod can help out relief flash looks worn.>

 

Seeing all these pitchers go down...is it a mechanics problem? Wright was injury-prone even in Atlanta, and there's no pitching coach better than Leo Mazzone - but what is it? :dunno:

 

I have no idea what went wrong with the pitching, but rumor has it that the Yanks offered Mazzone the pitching coach job for next year. Coming from the NY Post, I think 'rumor' is the key word there. I heard the Yanks might be getting Baez, the link I read it escapes me, and are watching Gil Meche and lefty reliever Ron Villone. Let's see how this plays out. I for one am surprised that Cash hasn't made any moves yet, and the more time goes by the less and less I think the Yanks will make any huge moves. It looks like they want to get younger and build another dynasty with guys from within the organization, as in the late 90s.

 

 

-and Gehrig is my fav. Yankee too =]

[MC Hammer]

Well I am George's antithesis as a Yankee fan.

 

My first thing would be shop Sheffield. See what you could get for him, preferably searching for starters. He is a great hitter who doesn't make a great hitters salary. He is a cancer to the team with his mouth and is selfish and is an anti-Yankee. If you could pull Burnett or Schmidt in a three-team swap while giving up Sheffield, you have to pull the trigger. This obviously leaves a huge hole in right-field, but I would be very willing to give up talent such as Melky Cabrera, Edwardo Sierra, Scott Proctor, etc... to acquire a stop-gap rightfielder. The resurgence of Jason's bat makes him expendable

 

That makes no sense. The guy said that if he's traded he'll make that teams life a living hell. How much more of an endorsment do you need? Sheff wants to be a Yankee when he retires ... how does that make him an anti-Yankee?

 

I'd question A-rod if you're gonna talk about an anti-Yankee, because this guy was talking about how much he'd love to be with Red Sox not too long ago.

[snb988]

I'd question A-rod if you're gonna talk about an anti-Yankee, because this guy was talking about how much he'd love to be with Red Sox not too long ago.

 

Of course he did, that was the team he was probably going to be playing for. And besides, Arod went on to say that he would rather move to third to play for the Yankees than stay at short for the Red Sox.

[MC Hammer]

Of course he did, that was the team he was probably going to be playing for. And besides, Arod went on to say that he would rather move to third to play for the Yankees than stay at short for the Red Sox.

 

Duh cause he's a Yankee now. All comments after the second he put on the pinstripes are null and void.

[YankeeDoodle]

And I thought you were one of those "informed" Yankee fans. Oh well, you have bluffed well up to this point.

 

George did the same things in the 80's that he is doing now. Namely, managing the Yankees into mediocrity by paying for high priced talent while running the farm system into the ground. Jesse Barfield ring a bell?

 

Then he decides to hand the reigns over to Gene "Stick" Michael, who rebuilt the farm system which produced several good players. Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Jorge Posada, Andy Petite, and Mariano Rivera to name a few. Stick then filled whatever holes the farm system couldn't via free-agency. Enter Paul Oneil, Tino Martinez, Joe Girardi, Roger Clemens, Mike Mussina, and others.

 

Yes, the Yankees still spent more than anyone else (as they have since George bought the team), but they had a healthy core of home grown talent performing on the field.

 

Unfortunately as the Yankee dynasty grew, George decided to take a more active role in personnel decisions. Thus began another era of "star-gazing".

 

I think George is the best owner in baseball because he is committed to winning at any cost, but the man just doesn't know baseball well enough to make key personnel decisions.

Uhh...I was kidding about the Darth Vader part. And "Pettitte" has two more 't's with that.

 

I highly doubt Mazzone would want to come here. He's got it made in ATL. Everyone is "rumored" with the Yankees because it drives up the salary. But if he does, I'll just rush out and get some motion-sickness tablets.

 

Maybe if Cashman dangles more people out "for trade"...they'll start producing again. Anyone want KB or Wo? We saw what happened when Sheff got mad...makes Cash look like a genius. Where is that motivational coach Steinbrenner hired? Just flash a picture of that bloated checkbook.

 

Just curious...what's are people's definitions of a "True Yankee"?

[ORS]

If you are going to counter my ideas with sarcasm, at least give me an emoticon to signifiy it. It sounded like you really thought George was the only one capable of calling the shots.

[YankeeDoodle]

If you are going to counter my ideas with sarcasm, at least give me an emoticon to signifiy it. It sounded like you really thought George was the only one capable of calling the shots.

I don't want to overuse emoticons to make it all cheesy and stuff.

 

Could you give me an emoticon to indicate that you're not upset with me? Sorry.

 

Yeah, GO MOOSE! You da man! Go show the rest of the pitching staff how's it done! Finally someone that gets Vlad out!

 

...Goodbye Anaheim, you have owned us thus far this year, and years past.

[ORS]

I'm not upset, I'm cool as a cucumber with you

 

I did get your sarcasm, just not that you were joking. Sarcasm without a joking nature tends to resemble mocking.

 

I retract the barb I sent your way.

[YankeeDoodle]

I'm not upset, I'm cool as a cucumber with you

 

I did get your sarcasm, just not that you were joking. Sarcasm without a joking nature tends to resemble mocking.

 

I retract the barb I sent your way.

Ok, good, I'm glad we got that cleared up. And if anything - I mock my team before anyone else does it...just part of the while "trying different approaches" thing - nice, not-so-nice, whatever it takes!

 

Hope everything's going well there!

[CrespoBlows]

I don't know how to fix the Yankees so I'll just throw out some blueprints

 

1. Call up Sean Henn, and use him for mop up roles. That way you'd get his feet wet, and he could adjust to being in the big leagues.

 

2. Cut Buddy Groom, and trade for Seattle lefty Ron Villone.

 

3. Keep Bubba Crosby in CF, whatever he does offensively is a bonus.

 

4. Try to find a starter, maybe some like Mark Redman, if it doesn't cost the Yankees Duncan or Hughes, any other minor leaguers is expendable, (because Duncan and Hughes are the only prospects that have any talent at all)

 

5. Whenever Kevin Brown pitches, start Tony Womack at 2nd, DH Robinson Cano, and play Giambi at 1st. (Womack would help Brown, because he's much better defensively that Cano) Brown pitches for contact now, and needs some help.

[TalkYank]

Take them to the vet. just playing...

[YankeeDoodle]

Take them to the vet. just playing...

Hey btw, if I didn't say so before, WELCOME THE BOARD!

 

Bwahaha...I saw this used on a Yankees board as a sig -

 

The Kevin Brown Countdown: 70 Days Until Freedom

 

Crespo: I thought I'd comment once I found the ERAs of Henn and co.

 

Henn - 11.12 ERA

May - 16.71 ERA

Redding - 54.00 ERA

 

...Granted you wrote for Henn to be moved to relief, but that's still one rockin' ERA stat. KB doesn't give up the longball, but I guess he finds other ways to run up that scoreboard. Ugh, but I kinda feel bad picking on a guy who is probably in pain just getting out of bed.

[TalkYank]

Thanks! Yeah, we definitely need better pitching...

[soxie thefangirl]

Well I wouldn't fix 'em. Haha.

 

But. You guys need pitching. But then, so does everyone.

[CrespoBlows]

Well I wouldn't fix 'em. Haha.

 

But. You guys need pitching. But then, so does everyone.

 

'Cept the A's, they never run out.

[ARod2212]

I won't mess with the lineup. I debated swapping Cano and Giambi, but this is the best protected Cano will be, so this is the only way he'll see pitches to hit all year. So I'll leave the lineup alone at

 

SS Jeter

2B Cano

RF Sheffield

3B Rodriguez

LF Matsui

1B Giambi

C Posada

DH Williams

CF Crosby

 

In regards to the pitching staff, all I want is some health. Johnson, Mussina, Pavano, Wang (who I hear may be back! ) and a combination of Leiter/Wright/Brown is all we can hope for at this point. I like the bullpen, and watch out for Aaron Small in the bullpen. I think he's this year's Tanyon Sturtze, he looked good out there the other day.

 

At this point, unless we can get Burnett for Pavano (wild rumor) I don't make any moves and just wait for the pitching to get healthy.

[YankeeDoodle]

I won't mess with the lineup. I debated swapping Cano and Giambi, but this is the best protected Cano will be, so this is the only way he'll see pitches to hit all year. So I'll leave the lineup alone at

 

SS Jeter

2B Cano

RF Sheffield

3B Rodriguez

LF Matsui

1B Giambi

C Posada

DH Williams

CF Crosby

 

In regards to the pitching staff, all I want is some health. Johnson, Mussina, Pavano, Wang (who I hear may be back! ) and a combination of Leiter/Wright/Brown is all we can hope for at this point. I like the bullpen, and watch out for Aaron Small in the bullpen. I think he's this year's Tanyon Sturtze, he looked good out there the other day.

 

At this point, unless we can get Burnett for Pavano (wild rumor) I don't make any moves and just wait for the pitching to get healthy.

Yeah, Cano should stick in the number two hole. Where's Tino? Has he dropped off too? Woe is Wo, huh?

 

Don't think the Pavano for Burnett thing is going to happen - they were friends in FL, but the Yankees don't appear interested. They don't appear interested in many things right now - it's very hush-hush until right down to the trade deadline, if anything.

 

Wang...I have a bad feeling. Just in my gut - and I hope I'm wrong about this...but I don't think the official evaluation's in for another two weeks or so. I would rather have him COMPLETELY healthy for next year than risk any further damage.

 

I have SP rotation at:

Mussina (he's been really good, comparatively thus far now :thumbsup: )

RJ (uhh...)

Leiter (remains to be seen)

Pavano (heh?)

Brown (bring me a walker - poor guy, well, he's not poor, but he should be making that cash on the DL <_>

 

You're not the only one to have said that about Small (this year's Sturtze) - and that would be a great, great thing. But some other ppl think he's a time-bomb waiting to happen...

[26 to 6]

Well I am George's antithesis as a Yankee fan.

 

My first thing would be shop Sheffield. See what you could get for him, preferably searching for starters. He is a great hitter who doesn't make a great hitters salary. He is a cancer to the team with his mouth and is selfish and is an anti-Yankee. If you could pull Burnett or Schmidt in a three-team swap while giving up Sheffield, you have to pull the trigger. This obviously leaves a huge hole in right-field, but I would be very willing to give up talent such as Melky Cabrera, Edwardo Sierra, Scott Proctor, etc... to acquire a stop-gap rightfielder. The resurgence of Jason's bat makes him expendable

 

I would obviously invest more money in the scouting department, international and internal. Let this year play out without Sheff and with the pitcher. If the pitcher plays up to some sort of quality, sign them, three years the max length. Avoid trading Duncan (first base in a few years), Cano, Cox, Hughes, Carl Henry, and a few other assorted recent draftees and 19-20 year olds. A system rebuilding process must be completed.

 

Resign Matsui at all costs. Trade Posada at all costs and then sign Ramon Hernandez. If we sign Ramon Hernandez that leaves an obvious hole on the San Diego Padres roster, as far as the catcher position goes. Trade him there perhaps, while picking up most of his contract.

 

Here is a strange move I have thought over time and time again. Move Derek Jeter to centerfield and put A-Rod back at shortstop. Although this is very sketchy and still leave a big hole, I think Jeter is more of a centerfielder than a shortstop and A-Rod is the best fielding shortstop in baseball next to Vizquel. This puts Alex back at short. Now, with the Padres so very down on Sean Burroughs, perhaps maybe he would be swapped for Posada. Maybe he would flash more power with the short-porch in Yankee Stadium and perhaps the gap in death valley would help him push his average up

 

...I'm not done, I'll update it later.

Boogie, wow...no way trading Sheffield could benefit us, hes too meaningful, hes the HEART of our offense, and hes hardly anti-yankee and hardly a cancer, hes a leader in the clubhouse, and went to lenghts such as threatening to be a problem for any team that trades for him, just to remain with the Yanks (who werent shopping him, he made that comment in regards to the Mike Cameron rumor).

 

Trading Posada is not an option, he is a 10-5 guy and wouldnt accept a trade. Plus lets be realistic, the Yankees arent the Yankees without Jorge Posada, hes really not as bad as people make him out to be.

 

Moving Jeter to CF is the most un-yankeefan like thing i have EVER heard. He IS our franchise, and is the best SS in franchise history. He's the captain of our team and is the SHORTSTOP of our team. He wouldnt move to accomodate A-Rod before, what makes you think he can do it now...and plus in an interview he gave a few years back he said he would be a horrible outfielder due to his lack of ability to judge fly balls (now dont point fingers at me, because he is obviously the best SS when it comes to popups, but these words came out of his mouth, NOT MINE). And Burroughs is a JOKE, he cant pla in SD, what makes you think he can play in NY, short porch or not.

[26 to 6]

Stick then filled whatever holes the farm system couldn't via free-agency. Enter Paul Oneil, Tino Martinez, Joe Girardi, Roger Clemens, Mike Mussina, and others.

 

O'Neil was traded for, Tino was traded for, Girardi was traded for, Clemens was traded for, and Moose is the only guy on that list that was signed as a free agent

 

O'Neil---Roberto Kelly (CIN)

Martinez---Sterling Hitchcock deal (along with Nelson) (SEA)

Girardi---forgot who we traded for him (COL)

Clemens---David Wells, Homer Bush, Graeme Loyd (TOR)

 

so not only could Stcik develop, but he could trade (O'Neil was him, Tino was him, Girardi was him, Clemens was Cashman)

[Manny Goes Boom]

Brown (bring me a walker - poor guy, well, he's not poor, but he should be making that cash on the DL <_>

 

 

Im no Yankee expert so I wont comment much, but Id say its the rotation that needs the help

 

And LOL to that line YankeeDoodle

[26 to 6]

my solution is do whats worked, add a guy who can play a major role (Cecil Fielder, David Justice type aquisition). Give Embree a shot, if he doesnt work call up Brian Boehringer (former Yank recently signed to a minor leage deal, last 3 years spent with PIT), then call up Mendoza when hes done rehabbing and give him a shot...and if need be, call up Mets reject (and Steroid user/pothead) Grant Roberts (playing in Trenton, signed a few weeks ago).

 

Add Griffey, Winn, Byrnes, or Sori (if he agrees, which is doubtful) to play center.

 

Add Schmidt, Sabean is asking for Cano but i think if we wait it out we can get him for less, but only if we throw some $$$$ in the deal.