What do you want the sox to look like after the deadline?

[Soxfan1]

C-Varitek

1b-Oldreud

2b-Bellhorn

SS-Rent

3b-mueller

Lf-Manny

CF-Payton

RF-Nixon

 

Same staff. I don't want too many moves made.

 

 

free agents next year V

http://kmbumb.people.wm.edu/roster/06agency.html

[stocker323]

C-Varitek

1b-Oldreud

2b-Bellhorn

SS-Rent

3b-mueller

Lf-Manny

CF-Payton

RF-Nixon

 

Same staff. I don't want too many moves made.

 

 

free agents next year V

http://kmbumb.people.wm.edu/roster/06agency.html

And why are you trading Damon?

[Soxfan1]

Again he's a free agent and I really don't think he will stay here.

[soxie thefangirl]

I agree with your lineup. Except that I'd leave Millar in I think.

[elsrbueno]

C-Varitek

1b-Oldreud

2b-Bellhorn

SS-Rent

3b-mueller

Lf-Manny

CF-Payton

RF-Nixon

 

Same staff. I don't want too many moves made.

 

 

free agents next year V

http://kmbumb.people.wm.edu/roster/06agency.html

 

 

Sorry man, I say we've got to keep Johnny Damon for the duration of the season. Worst case senario we get a draft pick for him, but I honestly believe he'll work out a deal and come back to Boston.

 

My team:

C-Varitek

1b-Ortiz

2b-Bellhorn

SS-Rent

3b-mueller

Lf-Payton

CF-Damon

RF-Nixon

DH-Manny

 

Rotation:

Schilling (He's supposed to return after the ASB)

Wells

Clement

Miller

Wakefield

 

Bullpen:

Foulke

Timlin

Mantei

Arroyo

Embree

Myers

 

Not sure what I'd do with Halama, but I'd like to see what's out there on Kevin Millar. If I can package the two and pick up a good reliever to replace Mantei or Embree, so be it. If not, keep them in the reserves. Of course, this doesn't seem realistic to me because Millar will most likely be the starter all year long.

[vegassoxfan]

trade damon you must be high? whether he comes back or not you need him in there in october. talk about the engine that makes this team go. damon is irreplacable this year. he and tek have carried us

[Soxfan1]

trade damon you must be high? whether he comes back or not you need him in there in october. talk about the engine that makes this team go. damon is irreplacable this year. he and tek have carried us

Dude if anybodys high its you. Baseball isn't all about leadership and teamwork. You have to face the facts. Last year nomar was in the last year in his tract and acted like he was going to leave and where is he now? With the cursed cubs on the DL. Damon wants a long term contract and the red sox don't want to sign him that long. Also, george wants him too. So stop being such a stupidass noob.

[stocker323]

Dude if anybodys high its you. Baseball isn't all about leadership and teamwork. You have to face the facts. Last year nomar was in the last year in his tract and acted like he was going to leave and where is he now? With the cursed cubs on the DL. Damon wants a long term contract and the red sox don't want to sign him that long. Also, george wants him too. So stop being such a stupidass noob.

Johnny's in a totally different situation than Nomar. You see Johnny's actually helping our team and a great clubhouse presence. It's not a given that Johnny won't re-sign, as he has seemed to lessen his demands. Plus it looks like in your lineup that all our spots are filled, so exactly who are we going to receive for Johnny.

[Soxfan1]

Bullpen help. Maybe if we can pull off a trade for shmidt or zito we can move aroyyo into the bullpen.

[Sox fan in Tex]

The only thing I would like changed is the playing of the bullpen. Everyone in there should be more effective, the way we're playing I'm not real big on making many moves.

[riverside sluggers]

Bullpen help. Maybe if we can pull off a trade for shmidt or zito we can move aroyyo into the bullpen.

 

once schilling comes back, one of the starters, most definitely arroyo bein moved back to the bullpen. im bettin if embree is not waived off the team, halamma will be sent back down to AAA

[soxie thefangirl]

yeah I see that happening too.

[Zenny]

C- Varitek

1B- Olerud/Millar

2B- Bellhorn

3B- Youkilis*

SS- Rent-A-Wreck

LF- Manny

CF- Jesus

RF- Trot/Payton

DH- Papi

 

Bench- Olerud/Millar

Bench- Payton/Tro

Bench- Vazquez

Bench- Mirabelli

 

SP- Schilling

SP- Clement

SP- Wells

SP- Miller

SP- Wakefield

 

LR- Arroyo

LR- Halama

MR- Mantei

MR-Embree

MR- Linebrink/Pollitte*

SU- Timlin

CL- Foulke

 

* This assumes we trade Mueller for bullpen help. Pollitte and Linebrink are just names on teams that need a 3B. That also comes out to a 25-man roster.

[Gambit]

Dude if anybodys high its you. Baseball isn't all about leadership and teamwork. You have to face the facts. Last year nomar was in the last year in his tract and acted like he was going to leave and where is he now? With the cursed cubs on the DL. Damon wants a long term contract and the red sox don't want to sign him that long. Also, george wants him too. So stop being such a stupidass noob.

Yeah, but Damon has publically said he wants to resign with the Red Sox... and if he didn't he might effing RETIRE. He has (according to him) zero interest in signing with the Yankees... and given the Yankees interest in Kotsay, I'm pretty sure they won't be going after him.

 

Talk about your Apples and frickin' Oranges.

 

Matt

[Gambit]

Bullpen help. Maybe if we can pull off a trade for shmidt or zito we can move aroyyo into the bullpen.

 

once schilling comes back, one of the starters, most definitely arroyo bein moved back to the bullpen. im bettin if embree is not waived off the team, halamma will be sent back down to AAA

I have no clue why anyone wants Arroyo in the pen. I know the bullpen is weak, but Arroyo is a hell of a lot more consistant as a starting pitcher than Wake is. I don't think Arroyo would be that helpful in the pen other than long relief/middle relief (what we really need is a hard throwing lefty to replace embree).

 

Personally, I want the rotation to look like this:

 

Schilling

Clement

Wells

Miller

Arroyo

 

I just don't get the move of Arroyo to the pen... I would personally much rather have him starting.

 

Matt

[riverside sluggers]

cuz that is the most obvious that they wont put wakefield in the bullpen, and another thing who ever said to trade mueller??!! mueller still has good couple years of playing time on him left and I think Boston will be keeping him until he decides to retire or whatever, it does seem most likely when mueller does go, youkilis will get starting position.remember they can trade one of their AAA prospects like adam stern or hanley ramirez for a top relief pitcher. and bronson's position was as a long/middle reliever, trust me i know ive been watching every single game since spring training of 2003.

 

wakefield is the staple of the red sox as they just signed a 3 year extension,hes still producing with those 2 back to back starts. besides hes been more somewhat consistent than wade miller has who by the 6th inning is already in 100 pitch range putting pressure on the bullpen.

[soxie thefangirl]

Wake won't go to the pen, 'cause Tek needs those days off. But Arroyo shouldn't either.

[riverside sluggers]

somebody has to go to the pen to make way for schilling, and schillings fightin back hard for the yanks series after the all star break

[Zenny]

Arroyo as a reliever makes much more sense than Wakefield. We've all seen Varitek's problems trying to catch Wake. You know how many guys are going to run on Wake late in a game? So a walk, steal of second and passed ball on Varitek gets a runner to third in the eight inning. No thanks.

 

Besides, Arroyo has been very inconsistent of late and he tends to get hammered (especially by lefties) second or third time through the lineup unless he has his absolute best stuff. You can get him in there for two or three innings at the end of a close ballgame and he can be great.

 

Regarding Mueller, he's a free agent after the year, Youkilis has been producing just as well and we need bullpen help. Forget all this "Mueller to 2nd" garbage, because it won't work. We need another arm and Mueller is our most tradable commodity.

[Soxfan1]

Yeah, but Damon has publically said he wants to resign with the Red Sox... and if he didn't he might effing RETIRE. He has (according to him) zero interest in signing with the Yankees... and given the Yankees interest in Kotsay, I'm pretty sure they won't be going after him.

 

Talk about your Apples and frickin' Oranges.

 

Matt

Ok first of all its the net and you don't need to be afraid to say f***ing. Second damon is not going to retire. There is no f***in way. And steinbrenner wants damon. He is twice what kotsay is and I don't think they are actually going to get him.

[CalvnHobs6]

Some people are uncomfortable with swearing. It's no problem if he says frickin' or effing in my book.

And about retirement - I don't think he'll retire unless he's serious about his whole "starting fresh with my family" thing. I like Damon and all, but I wouldn't be against him leaving the Sox. And there is only a microscopic chance he'll sign with the Yankees. Honestly, do you see him wearing pinstripes?

[Soxfan1]

Babe ruth, John olerud, Ramiro mendoza.

[CrespoBlows]

C- Varitek

1B- Olerud/Millar

2B- Bellhorn

3B- Youkilis*

SS- Rent-A-Wreck

LF- Manny

CF- Jesus

RF- Trot/Payton

DH- Papi

 

Bench- Olerud/Millar

Bench- Payton/Tro

Bench- Vazquez

Bench- Mirabelli

 

SP- Schilling

SP- Clement

SP- Wells

SP- Miller

SP- Wakefield

 

LR- Arroyo

LR- Halama

MR- Mantei

MR-Embree

MR- Linebrink/Pollitte*

SU- Timlin

CL- Foulke

 

* This assumes we trade Mueller for bullpen help. Pollitte and Linebrink are just names on teams that need a 3B. That also comes out to a 25-man roster.

 

Please refer to this on July 31st, cause this is the only roster that makes sense. The only thing I'd do differently is trade Shoppach (keeping Bill Mueller), and maybe a low level prospect for a middle reliever

[CrespoBlows]

Babe ruth, John olerud, Ramiro mendoza.

 

Babe Ruth was traded

 

John Olerud was only went to the Yankees because they were on the east coast

 

Ramiro Mendoza was a Yankee before he came to Boston.

 

I don't really see your point.

[elsrbueno]

Johnny seems like too much of a free spirit to play for the tight-ass Yankee team with all their stupid-ass rules and regulations. Remember the clean cut Damon? Borrrrrring.

 

He doesn't seem like the guy who'll go to the highest bidder, and he's already backed off his 5 year demands. Call it a hunch-- I think he'll be resigned for 3 years.

 

Also, Zenny's got a point. Bill Mueller is really the only guy with much trade value who the team is willing to (and should be willing to) give up. Shoppach, Youkilis, Ramirez, Pedroia, Lester, Papelbon, all those guys play into the future of the organization, and have more value long-term than losing them for a 1-year rental.

[Soxfan1]

They all went to the yankees/red sox. You can make a case for the bambino.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

i always say wakefield in the pen is better cause facing fastballs all night then someone throws a knuckler, its gonna be confusing and throw someone wayyyy off

[Gambit]

Ok first of all its the net and you don't need to be afraid to say f***ing. Second damon is not going to retire. There is no f***in way. And steinbrenner wants damon. He is twice what kotsay is and I don't think they are actually going to get him.

I wasn't afraid of saying f***ing - if you read my other posts, I swear quite a bit actually... that particular post though, I just felt like using some variations for the sake of being linguistically original.

 

If it makes you feel better - f***ity f*** f***.

 

And Steinbrenner wanting Damon is pretty irrelevant - I don't care who he is, nobody gets what they want all the time, and I think its pretty damned clear Damon is uninterested in the Yankees.

 

Kotsay might not be Damon, but he's certainly very good, and can give the Yankees come very good defense, some speed, and a good top of the order presence. Much better than Bernie or Matsui in center...

 

Matt

[Gambit]

Johnny seems like too much of a free spirit to play for the tight-ass Yankee team with all their stupid-ass rules and regulations. Remember the clean cut Damon? Borrrrrring.

Exactly - which was one of the reasons he said he has zero interest in the yankees. Its probably true he won't retire (it was more a statement about wanting to come back to Boston than anything), but I think #30 on his list of teams he would go to is New York.

 

Matt

[Gambit]

Wake won't go to the pen, 'cause Tek needs those days off. But Arroyo shouldn't either.

Tek can get his days off without Wakefield. Its called, "taking days off".

 

Matt