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Originally posted by schillingouttheks@Aug 20 2004, 10:48 PM

lol...welcome to the club of the roger clemens traitor

I was going to say welcome to the club of Red Sox Nation. We've had many more traitors than Clemens.

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I knew the Roger Clemens thing would get a rise out of RSN.

 

Tons of players get put on waivers without a deal in place. Many teams that want to shed payroll, guage interest in a player, make roster moves, etc put players on waivers and NEVER intend on trading them.

 

In fact, it is often speculated that players are put on waivers in mass quanities in order to mask a potential deal. They'll just pull a player back who gets claimed.

 

What does this news mean? According to the article I posted a while ago, this means that Roger Clemens (if traded) can ONLY be traded to Boston. Theo probably put the claim in because they knew the Astros wouldn't just let Boston take Roger for free, and they wanted to prevent the Yankees from having a shot at him.

 

Will Roger return to Boston? Probably not.

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Originally posted by schillingouttheks@Aug 24 2004, 12:36 PM

wait but what youre saying is that if a deal for roger was going to happen...it could ONLY be with the sox? and youre 100% sure?

 

thats kickass :)

With the MLB rules, I'm not usually 100% sure.

 

This is quoting the article I posted a while ago:

 

If a player is claimed, but only by one team, the player can be traded only to the team that claims him.

 

If a player is claimed by more than one team, the club with the worst record in that player's league gets priority -- and the player can be traded only to that team.

 

If a player is claimed only by teams in the other league, the club with the worst record in the other league gets priority -- and the player can be traded just to that team.

 

So I am officially correcting myself here. IF the Red Sox are the ONLY team to have claimed Roger, than that makes them the only team who can trade for him.

 

IF another team (in the AL) with a worse record than Boston did claim him, he can only be traded to THAT team.

 

So the appropriate question is: Did anyone besides the Red Sox put a claim on Clemens?

 

The one thing that I am 100% sure of is that Roger CANNOT be traded to the Yankees before September 1st (and if he were traded after September 1st, he couldn't play for them in the playoffs anyway)

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Originally posted by empirestrikesback26@Aug 24 2004, 03:11 PM

He is staying in Houston, I'm 100% sure.

Mark this day in history, because it may never happen again.

 

I agree with Empirestrikesback26 about something.

 

I don't believe Clemens will be traded from Houston. Why?

 

Clemens has fan power. He's a home town hero in Houston, and when you're not winning, you need SOMEthing to bring the fans to the park. Clemens gives Houston that. People come out to the park to see Clemens play, even if Houston's out of the race. That means something.

 

Would Clemens really want to come back to Boston? Probably not. I think all his problems with Boston were related to Duquette, who is long gone, but look at it this way:

 

Clemens has already won a ring. He has nothing to prove. If he wanted to play in the north east and be on a contender, he would have re-signed with the Yankees.

 

The bottom line is: Clemens wants to pitch at home, he wants to be with his family.

 

Houston wants him to stay, Clemens wants to stay. Where's the motivation for a deal?

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Originally posted by elsrbueno@Aug 24 2004, 04:24 PM

Houston wants him to stay, Clemens wants to stay. Where's the motivation for a deal?

$$$$$. But I see your point, and agree with you.

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Originally posted by Ortiz34@Jul 11 2004, 08:02 PM

Clemens is not going to come back to Boston. That is final. Hes not going to pack up and move back again after he just settled in houston. Besides, i dont want him back with boston. Im not denying he was a great pitcher, and he was a good part of the redsox team. However, how old is he now? I think hes 43 or 42, and there is no way he can carry on pitching well. He is going to blow his arm out, and the redsox will waste their money. Only person ever to keep pitching at such an old age was Nolan Ryan. On the Nolan Ryan scale, I wouldn't even rate roger as high as a 7.

i'm sorry ortiz but you are totally wrong. remember what happened the last time the red sox said clemens was too old? remember what happened the last time the red sox said clemens would blow out his arm?

 

what did he do? just pitch TWO 20 win seasons (i believe, too lazy to look up) for toronto before being traded to the yanks where he goes to win a world series, get his 300th win, pitch another 20 win season and get 4K strikeouts for his career.

 

clemens might be old but he sure doesn't look like he's slowing down. he's a pretty big guy and seems to know how to take care of his body. i bet he has 2-3 more good years left.

 

either way, if he comes to the sox and wins the series here he'll definately retire for good. who needs to play baseball after helping the sox win the series? i'de do nothing for the rest of my life.

 

john

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yankeehater...ive been noticing how u dig up almost month old dead threads and when u do, nothing u post is realistic in any scenario whatsoever, and then u go off running your hole about sometihng completely irrelevant to the topic of the thread. so do us all a favor and...

 

SHUT THE f*** UP.

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