Hanley Ramirez

[CalvnHobs6]

http://www.soxprospects.com/players/images/hanley.jpg

 

Age:20

Born: December 23, 1983

Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

Height: 6-1 ----> Checked into Spring Training at 6-3

Weight: 170 ----> Checked into Spring Training at 195

Bats: Both

Throws: Right

Drafted: Not drafted

How Acquired: Undrafted free

agent, 2001

ETA: 2006

 

Scouting Report: Athletic five-tool shortstop with great instincts.  Very young, with above average speed, power, and contact.  Good range with an average arm.  Has all-star potential.  However, may have struggled at dealing with all the hype - most reports list Hanley as the #1 prospect in the organization.  He has been very inconsistent throughout his second season, and has had some problems with immaturity, having a few run-ins with management which earned him suspensions.  Hanley has shown improved maturity in 2004, improving his game preparation and self discipline despite a lot of spotlight. Highest ceiling in organization.

from Soxprospects.com

 

Over his first two seasons, he hit a combined .349 AVG, .400 OBP, .541 SLG. His numbers dropped quite a bit last year, where he hit .275/.327/.403. This season, he was hitting above .300 before he encountered a wrist injury, dropping his average to .270 and sidelining him for a month. He should be back in action late June/early July.

[yawkeyway]

Do you have any updates on his injury? What is his ETA to be back?

[Zenny]

Originally posted by yawkeyway@Jun 17 2004, 01:54 PM

Do you have any updates on his injury? What is his ETA to be back?

I haven't heard of any reported set-backs. He should return in about two weeks, give or take.

[yagmaster]

Height: 6-1 ----> Checked into Spring Training at 6-3

Weight: 170 ----> Checked into Spring Training at 195

 

How could he check into Spring Training two inches taller? I really don't understand.

[CalvnHobs6]

In an article, released post spring training, he checked in at the larger size, though he is listed on soxprospects.com at the smaller size.

[Zenny]

Men stop growing at about 20-21. The stats soxpropsects has for him are probably his 18 year-old stats, so he could, in theory, grow another two inches in those two years. David Robinson grew almost a foot in college, so it's definitely not out of the question.

[elsrbueno]

What's the update on Ramirez? Is he still considered the "shortstop of the future?" or have the Sox given up on him?

[Zenny]

Originally posted by elsrbueno@Jun 30 2004, 09:00 AM

What's the update on Ramirez? Is he still considered the "shortstop of the future?" or have the Sox given up on him?

On the surface, they are going to continue to say he's the future, but I don't think they believe it. His production hasn't matched his potential so far and I don't know how patient the Sox are going to be with him, especially since they picked Pedroia and gave a $500,000 dollar contract to Luis Soto out of the Domincan. The Sox are going to hang on to Hanley for now, but I'm not sure for how long. If he has a hot stretch at some point, he may be trade bait over the next two years.

[elsrbueno]

Zenny,

Can Ramirez catch a groundball AND make a throw to first?

 

That's more than the current shortstop (nomar) is capable of....call his ass up!

[Zenny]

Originally posted by elsrbueno@Jun 30 2004, 10:16 PM

Zenny,

Can Ramirez catch a groundball AND make a throw to first?

 

That's more than the current shortstop (nomar) is capable of....call his ass up!

Hanley might be worse than Nomar, as strange as that may sound.

[elsrbueno]

anyway, this is off subject, so this is my last post here about this.

 

Sox should just play Pokey, Belly, and Youk....and bench Nomar until he's traded

[Zenny]

Originally posted by elsrbueno@Jun 30 2004, 10:28 PM

Sox should just play Pokey, Belly, and Youk....and bench Nomar until he's traded

Yep. Nomie sucks donkey balls. He doesn't even have a real name. Nomar? It's Ramon, you dyslexic bastard!

[YanksHater213]

Originally posted by Zenny@Jun 30 2004, 10:31 PM

Yep. Nomie sucks donkey balls. He doesn't even have a real name. Nomar? It's Ramon, you dyslexic bastard!

lol, donkey balls??

[CalvnHobs6]

Hanley's back. On June 30th, he went 2-4, scoring 2 runs. Yesterday, he went 0-5 with 2 K's. His avg is now down to .267, but at least he's seeing some playing time again.

[CalvnHobs6]

Hanley is currently the best hitter on the Sarasota Red Sox, leading the team batting .310. Unfortunately, he also leads the team with 17 errors. His .310 avg would be good for 3rd best in Florida State League, however, he hasn't played enough games (he's one game short of the league leader in BA). Things are looking good...he does need a defensive tuneup.

[Zenny]

Hanley got bumped up to Portland today and went 0-3. He should start the year in Portland next season, but if he goes on a tear, don't count him off Pawtucket's roster yet.

[CrespoBlows]

Abe Alvarez also pitched for Portland, and did great

 

6 IP 2 H 1 BB 0 ER 4 K's

[elsrbueno]

Hanley hit pretty well in Sarasota (.310) and is still young. We'll have to keep an eye on him in Portland and see how he responds to the promotion. He's got a lot of talent (according to prospect people) it's nice to see him having some success.

[CrespoBlows]

Hanley led off against Erie tonight, and went 4-5 all singles.

[Zenny]

Hanley has dropped switch-hitting and is going to be strictly a right-handed hitter from now on. He cites his lack of power from the left-side as the motive. It'll be interesting to see how he handles right-handed pitchers now as a right-handed batter. I think he'll have his growing pains, but by next season, he should be well on his way to producing huge numbers.

[CrespoBlows]

I was at the game he hit his only homerun as a SaraSox. He does seem to bat better righty then lefty. I don't know why he doesn't have more he hit that thing into the Parking lot at Ed Smith.

[CalvnHobs6]

Hanley has now played 10 games for the Sea Dogs, and is 13-45 (.289) without any walks. He also has a HR with 5 RBI, and a couple of doubles. He seems to be adjusting well to the new league, and I only see more greatness to come from this prospect.

[CalvnHobs6]

I actually looked again, and he was hitting at .333 before going 0-6 yesterday. He was also the only member in the lineup yesterday to not be walked. I think he definitely needs some more patience at the plate...45 AB without a walk is kind of frightening.

[yeszir]

Originally posted by CalvnHobs6@Aug 11 2004, 04:01 PM

I actually looked again, and he was hitting at .333 before going 0-6 yesterday. He was also the only member in the lineup yesterday to not be walked. I think he definitely needs some more patience at the plate...45 AB without a walk is kind of frightening.

Shea Hillenbrand-esque. But patience at the plate usually comes with experience, and he can certainly improve upon that. Not every prospect comes out of the minors looking like a Kevin Youkilis.

[Zenny]

He's had solid strike-zone judgment his entire career. I expect that to come as he adjusts to the league.

[CrespoBlows]

Hanley went 3-5 with a double and a homerun, bringing his total to 3. His average now stands at .328

[Zenny]

To quote one of the smartest Sox people I have encountered, "Hanley is the next Miguel Tejada. You look at what he's done and then you have to remind yourself that he's only 20 to grasp how good he really is." It was something like that, but he's right.

[elsrbueno]

Originally posted by Zenny@Aug 15 2004, 02:08 PM

To quote one of the smartest Sox people I have encountered, "Hanley is the next Miguel Tejada. You look at what he's done and then you have to remind yourself that he's only 20 to grasp how good he really is." It was something like that, but he's right.

Let's hope that Ramirez becomes the next Tejada....that'd be awesome.

 

Scouts HAVE been wrong before though.

 

Also, having never seen him play, Ramirez reminds me of Alfonso Soriano a few years ago. Everyone loved his skills, but he put up bad numbers, then finally he was given a shot to play, he starts to succeed.

 

Thoughts?

[CalvnHobs6]

This year, with the exception of his injury, he's been very consistent. He played well with the SaraSox, and now with the Sea Dogs, he's hitting .304 with 4 HRs through 16 games. These HRs are surprising, because Hanley has never really been a power hitter. He'd be right up there with the HR and BA leaders if he had been in Portland the whole season. Oh, and by the way, he has 6 stolen bases in the 16 Portland games. The more I hear of him, the more I like him.

[CrespoBlows]

3-6 night for Hanley with a HR his 5th. Average is now .311