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And if you think about it, Vaz had a couple months in MLB. He struggled offensively at first but started to turn it on a little at the end. Then he got hurt and missed a year. He really hasnt had any real consistency in MLB since being brought up, so Im really curious to see him have a full season in MLB. Leon should be fine. Prob regress a little, but I think he will be right in line with most other catchers.

DD probably wants a strong top 6-8 if he can, so The six we have now will most likely be added to. Depending on who we acquire will depend on if we let go of a guy like Buch or Pom. I expect a couple moves for depth guys. And i also am not ruling out a trade for Sale...DD is not done yet.

Add in smith mid season..almost like picking up someone at the deadline. He could be a huge boost mid season.

It depends on whether DD sees Buch as a guy in the rotation to start the season in 2017.

LOVE this move! In his prime and found his groove last year. Hes also Under control for a couple more years. Doubon was blocked and this move proves it. Xander is their long term guy at SS. Im guessing there will be a coresponding move to make Shaw expendable. Not sure DD would just hand the job to Panda. Bullpens are the way the league is going with a lot of guys only going 5-6IP. DD is making sure we have some strong young arms at the end of the game. Barnes, Kelly, Smith(june/july), Thornburg, Kimbrel...Thats a pretty good back end.

He was talking after the 2018 season when hes a FA

Yes, i agree. It seems te better defensive catchers are at the top. There is ONE position on the field where, IMHO, defense will ALWAYS trump offense, and thats at the catchers position. We have 8 other positions to make it up. Its the most important position defensively on the diamond and has the most workload to deal with...Id stay with Vaz and Leon over Swihart at catcher every day...

No...we NEED pitching depth

Wouldnt mind Moss as a cheaper alternative for a power bat from the left side. He kills RHP.

And Carter is all or none...200Ks a year...pass. Both guys are not worth much IMHO

Youe comparing a 22yo in AA to a 18yo having a tough go in low A? Ok...

I undrstand we save $$, but at what cost? We lose our only legit SP depth...im not rolling the dice on Owens and Johnson for first call ups...Id rather have either Buch or Wright for the #6 spot...we have s*** for pitching depth and if anyone thinks we should go into the season with only 5 legit MLB stRters then I want some of what your smoking because apparently mine Isnt as good.

Has NOTHING to do with confidence. Its all about Depth! If you think we can get by with 5-6 legit starters for a whole season then your on an island all by your self...again, you have to wait to see how everything goes. What if Wright is still barking about his shoulder? What if ERod or another guy twists his knee? Theres only one legit guy that can jump right in...i mean, unless you like Owens and Johnson..maybe Haley? The right move is to wait it out for now...of course unless you have worked a deal for a Pomeranz type with the same $$. But then theres the fact that your not going to get much of a return at all for buch. Problem is hes more valuable to us right now with our current SP situation. EDIT: sorry, this post was supposed to be for Nick but I must have done something wrong..

Yeah but you cant find 300ba 25hr with solid D at SS everywhere... JBJ 100% goes before Xander in all scinarios....we have 2 players who can step right in and replace JBJ. Your not going to make up Xanders production at that position.

The Rays dont get Groome or Kopech right now. They are our only two pitchers that really still have a good chance of being better than good MLB pitchers... I think we could get him without letting those two go. We have plenty of prospects and I agree with trying the quantity route. There would obviously be one big centerpiece, but the rest can be a lot of prospect potential and control.

They are right about the same age. One year apart I believe. Great situation to have two defensive stud catchers under control.

Agreed. I don't see any prolonged slumps from Beni. I can certainly see him adjusting and maybe go into a mini slump of sorts, but I believe hes just too good of a hitter and has the mental makeup to avoid a long slump. When I watch him, he just lookes more polished than a lot of players his age. His defense is also better than some think here. I could see a GG or two in his career.

I think you treat each player and situation individually. Beni could easily experience some growing pains in his first full MLB season. I think its less likely he goes the route of Travis Shaw just because the hitting is very polished and hes a better player. He will def have to make some adjustments, but I just dont see any extended struggles for him.

The article basically said nothing. Pablo and Shaw unles theres a trade. Nothing new

Eating disorders, just like alcoholism, just like drug addiction, and just like anything else that is an addiction...its not a disease. I'm sorry if I offend some people but the word disease got put into addiction so that they could get money from insurance companies... A couple of wacky psychologists came up with that theory and the theory Was found to be ******** pretty quick, but they stayed with "disease" because they actually got money for it. And now it's used as an excuse by a lot of people instead of taking complete responsibility for their own actions... like I said I'm not trying to offend anybody...I grew up in a family full of addicts, so I really don't have time for that ******** that they have a disease....its a choice Edit: I don't mean to be insensitive. I'm really not. Actually I'll be the first person to give you the shirt off my back and do anything to help you. My whole concern is I don't think using any excuses for their behavior, that they need to change, helps them. So once again I stand by my Belief that addiction is not a disease. Im all for giving Pablo a fair shot again. I hope he can get a hold of his eating problem, and make better choices for his own health. I'm more in favor of a trade for various reasons other than those already dicussed. I thought he was a bad fit from the start. I wish nothing but success for him, whether here or somewhere else. I dont wish ill will on any person, even the ones who treat me badly...but I'm also not one for coddling anyone either...

We need pitching depth more...Buch makes only 6 starters. And no, Owens and zjohnson dont count because they have peoved nothing. Losing Buch would be worse than losing either of the other two IMHO To think no picture or reliever would get her is naïve at best. Someone's going down. You can count on it... probably more than one person

Oh, so your telling me that my opinion, along with some facts on him, and why I dont care for him is not right? Hmmmm Well, His results sucked due to being out of shape and then the shoulder, so his performance, or results, sucked...so tracing his performace back to his conditioning we see it was a direct result of not caring enough to get into baseball shape. Oh, and i was pissed before he even started the season when i saw how out of shape he was...but no worries, you just keep on thinking you know what im thinking and feeling...its a shame you're spending more time bashing Red Sox fans for things they haven't said or done yet and throwing us all under a blanket instead of creating those brilliant and witty posts you usually do... So for the record. I didn't like Pablo's attitude in his first spring training. I didn't like the way he looked and I didnt like is play that year...I directly connected it to his not caring and being out of shape. If the fat slob cared he would've been in shape his first spring training when he was making almost 20 f***ing million dollars....

Im with you. I predict Beni will be a star

The Sox will owe less than 100m in Xanders last year of arb. My guess is they will have plenty for him and Betts...who is a fA in 2021 along with Leon and JBJ. (Leon and JBj have 4 arb years) Vaz and Wright are also FA that eyar too, but obviously wouldnt cost nearly what the 3Bs would