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Schwarber had reportedly multiple offers on the table around 120/4. So they added the fifth year vs competing on AAV, makes sense to me. Im bummed becasue Im a Schwarber guy but Ive recently made my peace with the fact that Bregman or Alonso are more likely.

TY, I feel better now. I do think Paredes is a solid target, but Im still very high on Tolle and Early looked very good last year. Now if Early's emergence makes Dobbins expendable and we flip Dobbins for Paredes, thats a good trade IMO.

I would give like Dobbins or the pitcher we just got for PW for Paredes, and Id prob do it now, because you can move him around , and therefore still pursue one of bregman or alonso or even scwarber (or marte or even bichette)

I like Paredes, but thats a steep cost (tolle or early)

My pont was that you had us trading for a #2 pitcher OR a big bat. And I just made a throw-a-way comment akin to "change the OR to an AND" I agree at this point, that a big bat is more needed than a TOTR starter.

Yeah, and they are expensive and break too easy. I had a silicone one that you could throw in the dishwasher and couldnt break for years. It was 25$ and better than all the $200 glass ones I have broken in my life (can think of 3 off the top of my head)

Or better yet Duran for a solid #2 Harrison and more for a big bat.

I accept your change request

The bold rings especially true with me. I wish people would realize how "RS fans" or "certain RS fans" or "some people here"....How condescending that comes across. And if you wanna condescend to me fine, but you GOTTA bring it. Dont follow it up with dated clichés, or non-sequiturs, or bad analytics. Being like "certain red sox fans would just trade all our prospects" or "certain red sox fans here just want to pretend there are no parameters" , and then following that up with faulty logic.....I mean, unfortunately, I learned long ago that the people who have their heels most dug in and act like they have all the answers are usually the dimmest. It use to bother me, but I have a new expression that helps and that is "a clownboy's gonna clown"

I know. One of my bullets was meant to differentiate the people who are trying to be realistic and may have become a bit cynical about current and future spending (you and others) from the annoying posters who make up lies about celebrities who call out billionaire greed and cry "leave the billionaires alone, I wubbbb them and maybe they'll see this and let me in the club" I have 0 issue with you, never have. I dont see you as a boot licker.

MVP seems to think , going by his words, that how Perales does in a AAA rotation will not be super correlated to how he would eventually do in an MLB rotation, so he thinks that if you use Perales in AAA you arent gaining information on him. Apologies if Ive misinterpreted.

I think when they shop, they are more targeting what they are getting vs giving up. For example, if they are shopping righty power bat, and the team wants pitching, I think they let the other team take the lead with who they want. Obviously , we put boundaries in place and try to get them off players we want to keep and maybe thats Perales. Maybe thats saying , hey how about if we remove Perales and add Dobbins. But I think they are pretty opened minded and let the talks flow.

If the plan is for him to start in 2027, Im not sure that having him pitch out of the pen in MLB for 2026 or having him start in AAA in 2026 - Im honestly not sure which of the two will have a stronger correlation to how he would do as a 2027 MLB starter. Another words: If he kills it in AAA as a starter in 2026 vs killing it in MLB as a reliever in 2026 - Im honestly not sure which will be a better sign for how he would do as a 2027 starter.

This may be boomer on my part, but I have a hard time believing that a sinker ball pitcher has a ceiling of a #4 pitcher, but he does seem to lack put-away secondaries. Also, as a sinkerballer, I wonder how much our defense hurts him, but I guess its easy to look at his FIP vs ERA

I think they have a handshake agreement with Criswell that he'll remain in the picture, maybe not add back to 40 man right away, but we know Houck at least is heading to 60 day IL

(applauds)

1. No, we all dont know that its not happening. Its unlikely to happen, but that doesnt mean its a done deal that its not. 2. Because the posters who said it, who you are specifically referring to, in this case 5 goldgloves and Duranistheman, I look forward to their posts, and its good to see others here push back on the whole we should be thankful for what we get boot licking narrative or the money isnt correlated to success fallacy 3. Because of the people saying "dont talk about what we deserve or what we should get or what we could get, instead work within the assumption that the offensive improvements is going to revolve around casas and yoshida" are more annoying than the people you are shushing. 4. Because I believe that not saying what we could get, what we should get lets ownership and management off the hook, and we're just not going to lick boots 5. Finally, because of the people in the "dont expect much camp, most of them are also in the camp of "fans are greedy, praise be our billionaire overlords. TY for our scraps and cellphones" and its pathetic. You are trying to manage your own expectations and prevent yourself from disappointment. I see a distinction between that and the people saying "Henry deserves his third yacht!!!! And I wubbbbb Casas and Yoshida and dont want to see their positions threatened"

double amen

Its an interpretable thumbs down though. He could have been thumbs downing the joke, he could have also been thumbs downing as in saying no, he isnt going lay off the bong and doesnt think anyone should.

Keep it up, I tip my cap to you internet stranger

Crochet, Gray, Bello, Oviedo, Kutter, Early, Tolle, Criswell (hope we can keep him) leaves Harrison and Dobbins as trade bait. Dont think we'll get value for Kutter, but like him well enough as a depth option or maybe swing man. Think Harrison is most likely to get moved, Dobbins second, I welcome either. Maybe even with someone else for a pitcher (pitcher quantity for quality swap). Also, prob still going to move one of Duran/Abreu/Cedanne at some point.

Fair assessment/ valid frustration. Im open to us doing more, but not counting on more.

I dont think so. I think , apologies if I said this before, we need to know where they think they are in their cycle (rebuild phase vs compete phase) and then we can put together a package. We can put one together in either case, just a question of how much value they will put on current guys. For example if they think they are going to compete , they'll be more interested in short term help like Sandoval. The name I keep coming back to is Cedanne. I dont dislike Cedanne, and the fact that we've struggled defensively does give me pause. But hes got a lot of control, and they do need a CF'er. I could also part with Duran, but Im not sure if they are looking to compete vs reset.

Back to the rebuild! Hey, we won a playoff game! HAHAHA

This aint a scene, its a goddamn arms race. You dont remember when the sox and yanks would match move for move? Well sub out red sox, sub in blue jays. Or we can get serious again and have a 3 teams arms race. It will at least be a a 2 team scramble for talent, we can make it a 3 team scramble for talent or let the gap between us and the best teams widen. The Jays and Yanks are building a big rivalry and the yanks went home bitter with vlad rubbing it in all the way. You dont think they want revenge? You think the yanks are going to let the jays get cease and bring back bo (even if its a neutral move) without a counter? And the jays beat the yanks , so really its on the yanks to improve (granted they should have G.cole coming back). I can see the yankees jumpin in on schwarber or bellinger or trading for someone. And the Phils are like no so fast. And the Mets are like hey, forget about us? And then a team with an owner that wants to win more than ours does jumps in and makes a splash. And suddenly we're begging "at least get polanco, everyone else is gone" and the boot lickers are rejoicing that henry can get another yacht. And people are telling us that the dodgers are ruining baseball, but also that spending doesnt equate to success (reconcile those 2, cuz I cant). Also, when there are only 4 or 5 big time free agents, and one comes off the board, teams start scrambling. If the Jays retain Bo, its one less bat available and I expect things to heat up. I think things are going to heat up and theres more teams looking for talent than there is talent. Someone is coming away disappointed.