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  1. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    But not Sugano.
  2. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    And he was an All-Star in, you know, the Major Leagues.
  3. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    If Bloom thinks he can get Odorizzi at 13 mil per 3 years, you can bet he's opting out on a guy who wants 14 mil for 4.
  4. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Because of that (the Sox' D-fishing-Cs)... I agree.
  5. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Injured Sale, October '18: struck out the first two batters of the World Series... and struck out the last three batters of the World Series. In between, yelled and swore at teammates, who were afraid not to rally.
  6. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    That was the same year DLowe and Pedro were 20-game winners (which doesn't mean so much to a lot of fans these days -- though that they averaged around 7 IP per start should still matter, especially to Sox fans who had to stomach 2020). But the WAR stats for position players and pitchers doesn't show much connection as far as winning rings in such a team sport. A better debate might be what makes for more fun as a fan: watching a team consistently contend for six months of most years or a team that alternates between titles and the cellar.
  7. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    My interpretation here is that some posters imply that great players help teams get to the postseason, but don't make much of a difference once the tournament begins, and thus aren't really worth expensive longterm investments because they don't guarantee titles.
  8. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    It's interesting that the Nationals were ranked so low by record but were also one of only 11 clubs in 50 years with three star quality starting pitchers of 5+ WAR -- and the only one that won it all.
  9. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    There reason I focused on winners with superstars is because that is a huge topic of debate here -- signing or extending great players and how they correlate to trophies and banners. Of course, I'm one of those fans of this entertainment product who values the journey as much as reaching the ultimate destination (I'm selfish and want to enjoy as many journeys as I can while I can). 111 Teams in the Divisional Era (1969-2019) had at least two pitchers at 5 WAR (there were only 45 clubs with two pitchers at 6 WAR); only 6 of those teams won the World Series. So 5% of the time a team with at least two superstar pitchers wins it all. Or 95% of the time they don't... 11 teams had three pitchers at 5 WAR; only one won a ring -- 2019 Washington, with Strasburg, Scherzer and Corbin -- 9%. That also means teams lucky enough to have three Top Ten-quality starters lose their last game 91% of the time. 1969-2019 World champs with 2 pitchers of 5+ WAR: '16 Cubs, '04 Red Sox, '01 Dbacks, '85 Royals, '69 Mets.
  10. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    There were more clubs that made the playoffs or even won the pennant, but I just looked for world champs, since that's the ultimate goal. Next, I'll scan for pitchers, since a lot of us agree having a top dog on the mound in the postseason is key... although, having a "hot" dog is more important in October than a guy who maybe burned out having a great season.
  11. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    When does tirement start?
  12. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    I'll start: 108 Teams in the Divisional Era (1969-2019) had at least two position players at 6 WAR; 11 of those teams won the World Series. So 10% of the time a team with at least two superstar performers wins it all. Or 90% of the time they don't... 17 teams had three position players at 6 WAR; only 2 won a ring -- 1993 Toronto and 1973 Oakland -- around 12%. That also means teams lucky enough to have three Top Ten-quality stars lose their last game 88% of the time. 1969-2019 World champs with 2 players of 6+ WAR: '18 Boston, '17 Houston, '13 Boston, '92 Toronto, '84 Detroit, '83 Baltimore, '76/'75 Cincinnati, '71 Pittsburgh.
  13. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    But 34 in '34 was like being 64 today (I would've said 44, but now they're saying 60 is the new 40). McCartney's pushing 80 -- we still need him, but he can still feed himself.
  14. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Being realistic and not pessimistic about contending: it won't be enough to add two starting pitchers coming off injuries like Kluber and Odorizzi to a rotation counting on a top two coming off injuries or illness -- Eovaldi and ERod -- and hoping for the continued development of Pivetta and Houck. Sale's contributions, even if he's great again by next summer, will be minimal. Even if we add Kluber and Odorizzi, that's not one single starting pitcher who took a regular turn last year... for the entire 60-game season. Could they all be healthy and good at the same time? It could happen, but I wouldn't bet those extra cans of beans we're storing in the basement for the next quarantine on it. The other starter the Sox are aggressively seriously pursuing -- Sugano -- was a proven innings eater in his league, but he'd just be another question mark as to whether he can even consistently get MLB hitters out.
  15. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Andrew Miller for Eduardo Rodriguez... good reliever for a minor leaguer who became a top of the rotation starter. Another debacle I try to keep buried in my subconsciousness that occasionally resurfaces like a flashback from a bad trip: George Scott for Cecil Cooper (10-year regular in Milwaukee, '77-86, 3rd in first baseman WAR behind HOFers Murray and Carew).
  16. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Sabes was probably our number two starter in Pedro's first two years here. But John Smoltz -- I think his arm did fall off... on either the plane trip to Boston or buttoning his Red Sox jersey the first day.
  17. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Maybe they mean we're done, as in foe-geddaboudit.
  18. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Your question reminds me of Greg Harris, who was ambidextrous and had a glove that fit either hand... but I don't recall if he ever threw both ways in a game like he wanted to. I bitterly remember all the trades you named -- except I liked the Boddicker trade and still think it was worth it to finish first in '88 and '90. But even though Lyle was great for six years, and Lynn was my favorite player for another six years, Bagwell was the only Hall of Famer we had but never had. At least we got to enjoy the early years of Mookie's Cooperstown career...
  19. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Is it bad when MLB.com runs an article on potential offseason moves titled "Ten Teams Who Aren't Done Yet" -- and the Red Sox aren't one of them?
  20. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Except by Gorman, who blew it because he didn't do his research. He needed bullpen help and didn't consult his scouts when Houston asked for Bagwell. One scout almost quit he was so pissed. Fans in Connecticut, though, knew all about Bagwell: born in Boston, All-State at Xavier High in Middletown, CT, all-time leader in HRs, RBIs, BA in three years at University of Hartford, led Eastern League in hits in '90, destined to play in Fenway... Worst trade in modern Red Sox history the day it was made, and it got worse four months later when Larry Andersen signed with San Diego.
  21. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    But Cooper made Bagwell expendable! Lou Gorman is still wondering where he was going to play two third basemen... then he had lunch.
  22. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Not a worthy replacement for a starter who helped win two divisions (I always thought the expendable Brady Anderson plus minor leaguer Curt Schilling was a fair deal at the time for Boddicker, Baltimore's ace). At least Darwin hung around a lot longer than the other pitcher the Sox acquired from Houston, Larry Anderson... at least they didn't have to trade Scott Cooper, future All-Star third baseman.
  23. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    The Sox were a first place club in '90 but had to replace their number two, Mike Boddicker, who won 39 games in 2 1/2 years (he signed with KC and was never as good). Darwin was coming off a great year when he led the NL in ERA... but they had no DH and he had the Astrodome.
  24. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    So we just need to wait for Nick Yorke to hit like Nomar, Triston Casas to turn into Mo Vaughn, and then trade for Luis Castillo -- after he wins the NL Cy Young.
  25. 5GoldGlovesOF,75
    Shaughnessey claimed the Red Sox haven't been this irrelevant since 1966. I would add Major League Baseball to that statement. So nobody needs to also include posters in the winter on a baseball forum. In a frozen market. In a pandemic. We know where we stand... or fall.
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