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Snd yet they’re not going to do it. Because trying to carry one player who can’t be optioned is difficult enough, especially if he struggles. Doing it twice probably more than double as tough. There are teams that are non-competitive every year, yet no one ever Carrie’s more than one Rule 5 player, and there are plenty others that don’t carry any. You’d think if it was such an easy freebie way to get talent and teams didn’t care about the bottom of the 40 man roster, a lot more teams would take part in it…
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Of course it does. The “bottom of the 40 man roster” still contains MLB-eligible players in it. It’s referred to as “The Reserve List” for a reason. You might as well say DD doesn’t care about depth. I’m sure it’s more important to DD than any of us here can even emphasize. He’s going to make a dozen or so moves over the course of the season trying to use this part of the roster to fill gaps and cover for injuries. Just because you think it isn’t important doesn’t mean any executives feel that way. In fact, it’s a very safe bet none of them do…
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Because carrying Rule 5 players isn’t as easy as a lot of people think. Just because the Nats/Pirates/A’s won’t be good or spend money doesn’t mean the goal is to put inferior products on the field. Stashing a Rule 5 player is a bad idea. Player gains a year of service time while losing a year of development. Teams like these need players they can actually use, not experiments with prolonged inactivity. What makes you think Song is better than the internal options these teams already have? The ones who have actually been pitching…
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1. He cares about the bottom of his 40 man roster if he’s a good exec. 2. He clearly thought Song (or possibly other pitchers) were better than Miller, which is why he got left off. 3. That doesn’t make Miller useless. And since DD is going to probably use 15-20 relief pitchers this year (like every team) while defending his pennant, the bottom of the 40 man and the upper tier of the minors are important.
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I don’t think Pit, Oak or Washington are going to all try to calmly two Rule 5 picks buried on their rosters, bringing both players a year closer to arbitration while minimizing their development. It seems more likely most Sox fans are still enamored with Song’s draft status, which actually means very little at this point. The Sox chose Ryan Zefferjahn before Song and this post might be his first mention on the main board. If DD is still enamored with Song, he’ll complete a trade to keep his rights. If he isn’t, he will return him and hope Erik Miller doesn’t make him look stupid…
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He last pitched in 2019. It’s now 2023…
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It’s actually a bigger gamble for DD. He left a younger AAA pitcher off his roster to draft Song, and then traded that pitcher for a career minor leaguer. I don’t think he did that just to see if Song has some gas left after a 4 year hiatus. It’s not about the money. DD was probably hoping Song could become an impact arm and certainly not crazy enough to think he was going to step right in and dominate…
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Trading him will probably prove difficult. He’s still a Rule 5 player who hasn’t pitched in almost 4 years. Probably why all those other teams passed on drafting him…
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Similar to how the Mariners got RA Dickey. Selected him and then traded some nobody named Jair Fernandez to keep him.
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OY or M&M? Who would you rather have going forward?
notin replied to RedSoxRooter's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I think Harrelson was doing Red Sox games before Martin and Montgomery. Montgomery did Sox games from 1982-1995. In 1985, Harrelson was named White Sox GM, and by 1987 he was out of their front office and in the Yankees and then later White Sox booth, where he stayed until early 2000’s… -
I’ve been saying that since draft day…
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What? How would they talk about trading for Song? DD: Hey Chaim, I’d like to keep Song, but not on the 26 man roster, since I’m trying to defend a pennant and tying up a bullpen slot with a completely green Rule 5 pick is impractical. Bloom: OK. What will you give for complete rights to Song? DD: We’ll, Painter and Abel are off limits. But I’m open to anyone else in this fairly barren minor league system. Bloom: Ok, how about Johan Rojas? DD: Hmmm. Still stockpiling speed, I see. Let me see Song pitch a little first, but I’ll get back to you on that. And then they hang up and call each other names to their underlings…
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And yet the sports journalism industry continues to try to predict the future. If Philly really values him, they should make a move to acquire him so they can demoted him rather than they to actually force a full season out of him in MLB, which will not be as easy for them as you seem to think. Of course, it’s entirely possible these discussions have already begun…
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Very much so. I was like 10 or 11 so I didn’t even bother…
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The Sox didn’t mess up with Song. (Ward? That’s another matter.) Players in A ball are almost never selected, so players who were in Rookie Ball 3 years ago and haven’t played since should be the safest. Philly played a low risk long shot that probably (ok, definitely) cost them Erik Miller. But there’s a chance Miller doesn’t represent a noticeable loss either. No one thinks Song will straight up stick, so one of my two oft-mentioned options will happen…
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I once went to a Pawtucket game on July 4th, and to celebrate the holiday they made all concessions free…
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Or more homework is done today in determining who to protect…
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You could be more recent since the Sox did lose their starting shortstop this year for the first few months…
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Lux has a torn ACL. Out for the year…
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I priced out Cubs tickets in Arizona and they were in the $35-70 range…
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Spring Training games are crazy expensive now…
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Or Kevin Brown?
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Hindsight agrees. But again, I recognize the dilemma Grady was in…
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That’s also an argument for avoiding the Sox lackluster bullpen in 2003…
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I do credit you for pointing out to me what a huge omission Grich was, although bWAR tells us Lou Whitaker was a bigger one…
