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I would imagine Song has trade value. Despite his potential military service, he’s still probably closer to the majors than most of this year’s crop of 16 year old Dominicans, who certainly have some trade value...

Yeah commentary is better, but only a few people offer it up. I’m assuming a thumbs up/down relates to it being good for both sides, but who knows? Probably varies from person to person...

I was kidding. Both teams are more likely to wait until waivers clear if either has any interest at all. I think both players will be in Asia shortly...

No. There’s one criteria justified by 1,000 different excuses...

Agreed. They let Sandy Koufax In despite his short reign of (utter) dominance, but usually they prefer a longer career. But why Koufax but not Lefty O’Doul? And when do they decide Dale Murphy was good enough? And really - WTF is this whole FIFTEEN TIMES on the ballot thing? So a player isn’t good enough 14 times, does absolutely nothing, and is now good enough?

Seeing what Betts is worth using their methods is interesting. You come on here, and fans expect absolute top tier prospects for the right to pay Betts $30mill for one year. I keep seeing Gavin Lux, Dustin May and Alex Verdugo tossed about. But if I proposed the Red Sox trade Tristan Casas, Bryan Mata and Jarren Duran for Trevor Bauer, I am pretty sure I’d here “Three of our best prospects for a rental???!? That’s just stupid!!” I like that 1) it has no personal team biases, and 2) I can get feedback from a range of people, especially since it can handle how individual GMs plan to build teams and evaluate players.

Right because the voting method was so perfect. The same method that said “Tony Perez? In. Steve Garvey and Don’t Mattingly? Out. Dave Bancroft? In. Larry Walker? No. Don Sutton? Makes sense. Jim Kaat? No it doesn’t.” Yeah let’s defend that method. The fact that Bert Blyleven took 15 years to get into Cooperstown shows what a joke voting is. The guy was fifth all time in strikeouts - the most exciting pitching category. If you’re top five all time in any cumulative category, you should be in the Hall...

Morris is a bizarre example very good pitcher whose entire career was suddenly cast into greatness because of one game in the limelight...

Heck, Jamie Moyer’s is 49.9...

They’re components of WAR...

Maybe they put in a waiver claim on Greg Bird

The Yankees kept him on the 40 man roster despite being out for the year with TJ surgery? That was silly.

On the bright side, at least the Sox didn't trade Johnson for the next Eric Gagne...

Ramon Torres? Or Carlos?

And the Yankees need SP. Johnson isn't going to fill a role at the top of any rotation outside of Korea, but the Yankees might want another lefty depth starter behind a rotation filled with aging question marks. They could easily get a better one than Johnson, but probably not by dealing Greg Bird...

Well, I was asked for a range. But if they are in the post-season hunt with 87 wins, that works for me, too. And even nowadays, every team that won 90 games made the post-season except for Cleveland. Milwaukee got in with 89 wins...

Except the Red Sox, who have a two open spots currently, and also plenty of DFA-able Sam Travis/Ryan Weber/Trevor Kelley types they can easily waive, watch go unclaimed, and re-sign to minor league deals if they still want them. And the Yankees could do the same with Ben Heller...

90+

I would think what they get in return for Betts or Martinez would be a big factor in how competitive the team can be in 2020. Having big stars does't guarantee anything. The Sox put Hall of Famers in left field for a half a century straight and wound up with zero titles in that stretch...

It's possible to get under, and it's possible to field a competitive team in doing so. But it's just not as easy...

True, but they also let a free-wheeling, farm-killing, big spender go despite that he has been at the helm of seven division title teams, four league champions, and two World Series champions, and replaced him with a frugal sabermetric team builder with a very brief history of success that consists of one wild card team.

Sure. Brian Johnson for Greg Bird. Who says no?

Not to mention, it's not like they are coming here looking for input. They are already operating wit waaaay more information than us as it is and a much better knowledge of how to run a team. I mean, I've repeatedly thorwon out there a David Price-Wil Myers swap as an idea, and even joked I need to call Bloom about it. I'm pretty sure Bloom knows who Wil Myers is (despite the lack of overlap in their respective times in Tampa) and has thoughts about this kind of trade using information I would have no access to. If he read my posts on this one out of 1000 Red Sox forums on the internet, he'd probably say "Is this guy high? Wil Myers? The guy isn't a good ballplayer, plus he is a complete a-hole and has atrocious personal hygiene habits and is NOT a guy I want on my team. Not to mention, Price might be overpaid, but he's still pretty good, and if I moved him I would still need ANOTHER starting pitcher, and I'd have too much money tied up in that new slug of a RF/1B Myers. Gawd some fans are soooo stupid" (This is a purely fictional response. I have no inside knowledge about the personal hygiene habits of Wil Myers and their effectiveness, and no idea if Bloom does, either.)

It's not a question of what we want to see. It's a question of what we think will happen based on what little info the media feeds us...

I think the draft penalties are the worst part...