Chad Fox got released that year on July 30, making him I guess the one guy to go from ninth inning to waiver wire. He did catch on with the Marlins and actually became a key member of their bullpen and got himself a World Series ring…
The problem with that pen was it didn’t much in the way of good pitching until Kim was acquired about a third of the way into the season. The weird thing is, that bullpen is remembered for being horribly ineffective, but they were quite good in the ninth inning even prior to acquiring Kim. They only blew three ninth inning leads prior to the trade, and that only resulted in two losses.
Now in the 7th and 8th innings, those guys got hammered like a sorority girl on Jell-O shot night…
I didn’t like them up, but ok.
But 12 saves in 2 years isn’t really a closer. Bobby Jenks and Sergio Santos were the closers on those White Sox teams. Sale’s career high in saves in a season is 8, the same number non-closing Adam Ottavino has for the Sox right now.
Most likely his saves came in games when Jenks or Santiago weren’t available…
For 2022
Houck, Barnes, Whitlock, Taylor, Hernandez, Valdez, Sawamura and maybe either Feltman or Ort. Austin Davis is still in the mix, too.
Rotation: Sale, Eovaldi, Pivetta, Seabold, Acquisition…
Would having him face AAA lineups - the players he already knows he should cruise through - really bolster his confidence? And what happens to his confidence if he doesn’t cruise through them?
Exactly how many pitchers have to be involved before it’s a committee? The 2003 Red Sox closer “committee” had one guy closing (Chad Fox), but we still call it a committee.
The Rays have been using a closer committee all year. Not sure why people think it’s such a bad thing…
No.
His first two seasons, he did make 79 relief appearances but only got 12 saves, and I bet the bulk of them were the stupid “last three inning” ones.
The White Sox did make him the closer briefly when he had elbow issues in 2012. He tried to close one game and blew the save. And then I guess his elbow issues miraculously disappeared because he went right back into the rotation…
Are you suggesting the Dreaded Closer By Committee? That’s never worked!!
Unless you count the three quarters of a century when every team did it and it worked out just fine…
Richards is another good candidate. I’ve been suggesting him as an option for a couple years, but, really, only because I questioned his durability as a starter.…
I bet more of them can than you realize.
Q: What happens to closers who struggle?
A: They most often get moved to another role in the bullpen.
Q: What happens to middle relievers who struggle?
A: They often get either demoted to the minors, DFAd or flat out released.
I can’t recall a single closer who went right from the ninth inning role to the waiver wire (not counting the August waiver wire, which used to be used for different reasons). Can you?
So who really is under more pressure?
If the Sox make moves for starting pitching, leaving Houck as no Whitlock in the bullpen makes even more sense. Whitlock already is the 2 inning lockdown reliever. Houck is probably the best replacement for Barnes we’ll find.
Sale, Pivetta, Eovaldi and Seabold make for an acceptable start to the rotation. Throwing Whitlock into the mix in the rotation is just as questionable as Seabold, and also creates the very opening in the bullpen you say they need. Plus a bullpen with Houck, Barnes, Taylor, Whitlock, and Darwinzon is a really good start. Feltman and Valdez might be in the mix as well.
And if Robles works out, he might be back…
I don’t think the “big and slow” aspect of the lineup is the problem and definitely don’t think Duran is the solution. The Sox were 56-36 with this lineup (with only Schwarber replacing Dalbec now) before Duran was even called up,..
I have always postulated that fatigue (along with wear and tear) is a bigger factor for pitchers than anything psychological when it comes to these types of slumps. Just because no one is reporting any injuries on Barnes also doesn't mean he feels the same way he did in April...
Robles.
He has 38 career saves and was closing for the Angels earlier this year.
And for all the getting about this guy not bring an A list reliever, in his last 6 outings with Boston, Robles has an ERA of 0.00, an OPSA of .548, and has stranded 5 of 6 inherited runners…