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So it sounds like for you that clutch is based on the clutch player feeling they will succeed and is not dependent upon actual results in clutch situations.
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You are getting way too subjective. Yaz failed in the biggest at bat of the game. He was not clutch at that moment and clutch is only about moments like that. Otherwise, we can choose to see clutch in any circumstances we want and can make it exist whenever we want.
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Which only demonstrates that in game management is as much guess work as strategy and the manager has little control over the results of play on the field.
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Well I guess it is worth the risk to include Nunez on the ALDS roster.
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I think Nunez should not be on the roster unless he is healthier than he was when he attempted to come back from his injury. But I'm not sure of the rules for replacing injured players in the postseason.
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Vazquez was generally a good hitter in 2017. He'll need a longer career to determine if it is true in the long run. The defenders of clutch are making it complex and they are also trying to define it as a belief instead of something for which you need evidence.
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It will be interesting to see if Farrell makes any changes in his approach to base running in the postseason vs. the regular season. I'm hoping he eases up on the aggressive base running because each out each game looms much larger.
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No, we are able to distinguish good hitters and good pitchers from lesser ones using statistics. It doesn't need to be precise, just in the ballpark. The same with clutch. But with clutch we've got definitions that are all over the map.
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Why can't it be both?
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You forgot the context of my post. I was responding to believers in clutch refusing to define clutch in regard to a quality a player possesses. I have never said there are not clutch situations or clutch performances. I question whether it is a quality a player has that is not connected to actual outcomes on the field.
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So it seems clutch is a vague belief that is whatever the believer wants it to be. I can claim anything I want about who is clutch or not. There is no basis for debate, it is much like a religion that you either believe or don't regardless of evidence. Clutch apparently doesn't really mean anything. I believe Marv Throneberry was clutch.
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You're batting .500.
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It is not just opinion. Clutch is unknown until a hitter performs. You can't see clutch in a hitter without evidence based on actual performance. Believing someone is clutch is meaningless without evidence to support it. I could believe Marv Throneberry is the greatest hitter who ever lived. It is just an opinion. But anyone can question what it is based on.
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I agree with your analysis.
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Was Marty Barrett one of Boston's greatest clutch hitters?
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Using an entire career can at least show if there is at least a basis for calling a hitter clutch.
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You can look at an entire career depending on how you define clutch situations. Clutch can also be compared year to year for consistency. It might be similar to calling a hitter a good RBI man. Is there such a thing?
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Go Twins!
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I have been consistent. Debating about the concept of clutch is not merely expressing opinions. Baseball debates often use statistics to back up claims. Otherwise, Marv Throneberry could be called greater than Babe Ruth because it's somebody's opinion. Debates, like it or not, are about trying to sway people to your view. Otherwise we just express opinions which don't end up in any discussion at all. Opinions are made to be challenged and defended.
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Until you present a preponderance of evidence that it's real, calling it possible is just wishful thinking.
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No, it's vague because no one want s to narrow down the definition of clutch or clutch situations. They want it to include everything so they can use their gut feelings to decide who they think is clutch without having to demonstrate it with evidence. If a player either is better or not better than average in clutch situations there should be some form of evidence to suggest it. There is evidence in short term instances, but it is harder to make a case that a hitter is clutch in general over an entire career. Why would slasher say that Ted Williams was not clutch? Is there any strong evidence to suggest this?
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I call it good bat control, if in fact it actually happens often enough. Are all good bunters clutch? Was Ichiro, a bat control specialist, clutch? You still need to see it repeated with a certain frequency and in certain situations to move into the realm of clutch. The definition of clutch seems to be a moving target and quite vague.
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I only did what you did when you said I was wrong. Everything in this discussion is not just opinion.
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David Ortiz was a physically skilled hitter who took it to another level due to his superior intelligence in the batters box. Ted Williams was even better in both aspects. Yet some wrongly claim that Williams was not clutch.
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If your definition is not tied to actual performance, your definition is wrong.
