SinceYaz

When Vaz threw that one into the OF, I just crawled under my chair. Martin, really? Vaz is gonna rifle one the wrong way from time to time.

I think you are easily being conservative. I saw that many and had to step away for a bit because I was so mad. I can't imagine that the ump was all of a sudden consistently good the inning plus I was away... he was no better when I came back. Not counting the early innings, he gave Donaldson, Martin, and Saunders each at least one if not two more pitches - balls that were clearly strikes. Two should have been third strikes. Last night JKelly was madly mumbling to himself as he walked off the mound because clear strikes were called balls. Then damage was done. I protest both of these games. Not that it matters. My wife smiles wanly and walks off. My cats are fully attentive, but that's cuz they think a snack is in the offing. And MLB could give a rat's ass ... which might be what my cats are waiting for. HEY BASEBALL BIG WIGS, DO SOMETHING, PLEASE!

I actually like the strike zone gizmo that they use on TOs games, it shows the front and the side of the zone. One gets both where the ball ends up and the flight through the zone. If a ball tumbles through the zone, it shows where it enters and leaves. It's so much better than the frontal appearance on MLB or any other team production that I have seen. I admit, that is limited, but it seems to cover all the angles.

I'm normally fairly level-headed as far as matters beyond my control. But I am incensed at the terrible home plate umpiring, the last two games in Toronto being the worst in memory. It has been bad but these games were horrible. If both sides are getting the same bad calls, some might think that makes it even. I beg to differ. If you have pitchers that are ground ball reliant, you cannot expect them to throw higher and higher in the strike zone and still play their game. Exit efficiency, enter the advantage for the other team. Last night the ump was really unusual. Most of the time they eliminate one part of the zone, say the bottom. Last night they took away all the edges. I don't mean the ones on the black, I mean a full two balls deep all the way around. No edges, only a postage stamp zone.... ridiculous. Today, the calls were so bad that even the Red Sox pitching coach was going nuts. It wasn't even consistent, except for BAD. Balls were called high and low, inside and out ...Porcello had the ball low but in the strike zone. No sir, all balls. Kimbrell at the end had to throw down the pipe line ... Taz is always bad in Toronto but make him pitch high and "whoop, there it is!" There has to be something done. I know these clowns are supposed to be held accountable somehow but this is nuts. We have little league umps that do better. And most do it for free (at least in PA, in NY one can get paid.). This thread may not last long, and I did look for a place to put it without starting another spurious thread. But I am crazy mad about this stuff. I know, the crazy is on me. But dadgummit, this is ridiculous! Today's loss is on the umps. Last night, pretty close to the same thing ... Donaldson was a monster but he got batters practice pitching for goodness sake. To answer my own question, the umps are REALLY, REALLY bad. Embarrassingly bad.

Sorry IO, I hope the lineman doesn't suck as bad for AM as the ump did here.

Four strikes against Saunders and it's 2-2 .... what a joke. At least Kimbrell got him anyway. Mike DiMuro ... mark that name up as one who needs to see his optometrist!

Lefty, I am not knocking Taz in general, but not here, not now, not ever. His ERA is like 9 plus. I'll look it up .... I know one or two Jays fans that just start to slobber once Taz comes in. He's fine everywhere else...

He had to leave the ball high ... low strikes were all called balls.... we lose this one it is all on the freakin ump, IMO. I don't think I've ever been this mad at blue. This guy sucks.

And Donaldson should have been down on strikes...this ump makes me furious.

Why keep on playing him here ... he is batting practice for the Jays. Crap. Another blown game, really?

Another bad call by the ump.... BALL???

Taz gets slaughtered in Rogers ...

Nononono never pitch taz in toronto ....oh god no ...

Sorry Youk ... ump got a stinger in the face had injury

If I understand it, one got sick. I started following an inning ago, just in time to see the crappy calls at home. The bats are trying to make the issue null and void.

Nice pedey!!!!!

Nice Mookie! Speedy.... Now let's get a run in ... or two...

The injury is one to three inches behind his orbital bones, about 45 degrees upward. Probably his left temporal lobe.

NOW, Hanley now .... go boom!

Thank you bogey!!!

EXACTLY.... MAN THIS MAKES ME MAD. HIGH SCHOOL UMPS I'VE SEEN BETTER.

I can't watch these games. Really, the home plate umpiring is AWFUL. Kelly was brutalized last night and the ump today is nearly as awful. I know both teams have to deal with it, but the SO zone was a postage stamp last night and Porcello should have been out of the inning right now. Nope ... these umps SUCK:mad:

Clay seems to have a good couple of innings in him. Before the walls are breached or after. If we could somehow dictate WHEN it was gonna happen we could certainly use him as a sorta long reliever (2 innings.....)

So we can mark down those as 10-15 losses.......

JB vewy vewy funny