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Clay Buchholz - Is he worth the 2016 option?
moonslav59 replied to Slasher9's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Yeah, you're right. We've spent Porcello & Price. Our kids have convinced many fans they were just a mirage. It's Buch or bust! -
He can, and he will!
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If they are willing to look "long" they may want Moncada or Devers plus Kopech or Groome and then maybe Basabe and Dubon. I guess they wanted JBJ, so maybe they are looking for ML and more "ML ready" players like JBJ + Moncada or JBJ + Kopech and Basabe. Is this blockbuster too unrealistic? Trade: JBJ, Swihart, Devers, Shaw, Owens and Johnson For: Quintana, Robertson & Frazier Sign: Encarnacion & Beltran Here's the roster (AAA/AA or high prospect): SP: Quintana, Porcello, Price, ERod, Wright, Pomeranz (Kopech/Groome/Haley) RP: Kimbrel, Robertson, Buchholz, Smith, Ross, Kelly (Barnes/Hembree/Scott/Abad/Elias/Workman/Ramirez) 1) Benintendi CF 2) Pedroia 2B 3) Betts RF 4) Encarnacion DH 5) Ramirez 1B 6) Beltran LF 7) Bogaerts SS 8) Frazier 3B 9) Leon C Reserves: C Vazquez (Holaday/Romanski/Butler) 1B (Travis/Longhi/Ockimey) 2B (Moncada) 3B Rutledge (Chavis/Dalbec) SS Hernandez (Marrero/Dubon/Chatham) LF Holt (Brentz) CF (Basabe) RF (Castillo) DH (Witte)
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One game at a time.
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I'm always for upgrading the rotation but only from the 1 or 2 slot. It's one reason I was against the Pom trade. I like Pom, don't get me wrong, but I had hoped we'd put together a mega package and get a real ace. Now that we have Pom, we may think we're okay at SP'ing and upgrade elsewhere only. I'm not sure I'm for trading for Quintana or Sale if the price is way too high, but ideally, I'd like to see us trade for Quintana and Robertson, pick up another solid RP'er and maybe a 1 year fix at 3B (maybe get the CWS to add Frazier to the blockbuster). Even then, we may not be top favorites, but I like this rotation: Quintana Porcello Price ERod Pomeranz/Wright/Buch
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Our pen was horrible for most of the year. We picked up Ziegler, Uehara returned, and a few guys have shown flashes of high performance recently. Ziegler, Uehara and Tazawa are all free agents. No way are Carson Smith, Joe Kelly and Buch reliable role fillers for 2017. All of a sudden, based on the last couple weeks, our offense sucks and our pen is great. I'm not buying it, especially with projected pen losses to free agency. We have a solid core of young players. I'm still very optimistic about our near and far future, but we still will have serious holes to fill... beyond just Papi. I'm not against the idea of trading just about anyone, if the deal improves us for a long stretch, but just because player A and B have looked bad for a couple games or couple weeks, doesn't mean they need to be replaced.
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Over-reacting to a two game sample size is the last thing we should do. We need to rebuild the pen, and I mean into a great pen, not a pen full of only promise. We could try and upgrade our rotation with another ace type (Qunitana?), but the cost may be too ridiculous. EE is an option, but my guess is he will want too many years for his age.
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It seemed to be working the last couple weeks, and Barnes has not been all that great for quite a while.
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I'd have taken Taz over Barnes and Hembree. He looked pretty good at the end of the season. He also has playoff experience. The choice was not that big a deal, though.
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Several batters looked "lost" last night. They were flailing at balls way out of the K zone. I never seen so many check swings in all my life! Let's hope we get our timing back today. I'm predicting a 9-3 win with about 14 hits.
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Their O does not look scary, but they did finish second in AL runs scored! Ahead of TOR and TEX. The run the bases well, and that got them one run last night. We had a runner thrown out. One could say, that was the difference.
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Sox will win 9-3.
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It's the AL Division Series. Our timing looked off at the plate. I have never seen so many check swing strikes in one game. Great RP'ing by the Guardians caused much of it. Miller- Shaw- Allen...WOW! They didn't even use Otero, who had the best ERA and WHIP in the CLE pen this year: 1.53/0.906.
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Most likely for 2017, yes, unless there are multiple injuries or meltdowns to starters.
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ALDS Game 1 @ CLE
moonslav59 replied to SoxFanForsyth's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Francona used his pen masterfully. Miller should get the save.]] Imagine if JF did something like that, and it failed. -
Maybe by July or so, assuming he's dominating.
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ALDS Game 1 @ CLE
moonslav59 replied to SoxFanForsyth's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Have you ever seen so many check swing strikes in your life? -
I agree. We also have to note that guys like JBJ go from a .363 OBP vs RHPs to .309 vs LHPs. His Power (SLG) falls even more (.538> .356). I think the big wild card in next year's line-up will be Beni. Can he lead off? Can he bat 2nd? Can he do this vs LHPs too? Having Beni first would help "lengthen" the line-up, whci would help to minimize the loss of Papi in the middle of the order by allowing Betts, Pedey, Bogey or JBJ to join the 2-6 slots with HanRam. If we have to use Pedey 1st and Bogey 2nd, we shorten the line-up. I'm hoping for something like this: Beni Bogey Betts HanRam Pedey JBJ v R / Young v L 3Bman v R/ JBJ v L DH v R / 3B v L Leon
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The rumor last winter was that CLE wanted JBJ as part of any talks for one of their starters.
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I understand that, and that is why I suggested a three way deal that would have sent Todd Frazier to CLE (the ML bat they wanted) plus maybe Swihart, Holt or some ML ready prospects like Owens, Johnson or near ready Kopech. Then, we'd send farther away prospects to Cincy. I realize this could all be a dream. I have said this many times. That's a big reason I don't blame our GMs for the moves they make. I never know what other options were out there. Maybe they made the best moves they could. I get that. However, based on other deals made over the past few years, I think we overpaid for a RP'er and largely unproven starter.
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Some of you give up on guys too easily- after just a small sample size. Guerra is still ranked in the top 100 by one service. Allen may or may not amount to much, but Margot is still highly ranked. My position is, we could/should have added to the packager and gotten a starter.
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If you don't call Espi, margot, Guerra and Allen "much", then I'm at a loss for words. I didn't say "most" of our future- just "much". Plus, it's not about me wanting to hold onto all our prospects. nothing is further from the truth. Many of my suggestions involved trading much more than what DD has traded already. In general, I don't trade several top prospects for A RP'er, especially one being paid near FA money anyways. just sign one. The Pom trade was a trade of an uncertain long-away future for 2.3 years of cost-controlled 3/4 slot pitching. I totally get why we did it. We had a serious need in our rotation, just like when we traded for Peavy. I'm not blaming DD for doing it. I didn't blame Ben for trading Iggy. That's not the same as disagreeing or wanting better, as long as I was willing to give up more.
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Agreed, but my point is that although guys like Hill, Shaw, Hernandez and Marrero don't look like the PH'ing types, they may still represent an upgrade at bat over these slumping players (catchers). That's one reason I suggested possibly carrying 3 catchers- just so we can PH for two of them and still have defensive coverage. PH Young for the starting catcher in the 6th or 7th inning, and then PH Shaw or whoever in the 8th or 9th for the 2nd catcher.
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...and Palmeiro won a GG by playing something like 60 games at 1B one year.
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True- my bad, but Moore is similar and Liriano was much cheaper, but a big gamble that in hindsight worked well for TOR.
