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I read somewhere that Ben was drooling over Heyward and Stanton.
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While Price is DD's only big ticket item, he has made other moves that add up to a lot of money being paid out. Nobody should complain about Sale's low cost, and Kimbrel's "market rate" at the time of the trade looks like a bargain now, but some other deals have not really worked out well. Moreland gave us more than what we should have expected, but that doesn't mean it was great deal or the only one out there. FA Signings or pick-ups off waivers: $217M/7 Price $13M/2 Young $5.5M Moreland $1.75M Fister $975K Boyer via trade: $38M/3 C Sale $38M/3 Kimbrel $4.5M Pom (2nd of 3 arbs) $2.63M A Reed $2.05M Thornburg (arb) $2M R Davis $1.4M Nunez Questionable contracts $2M Abad One could be a stickler and claim we could have signed EE, if we had not signed or acquired Moreland, Reed, Davis, Nunez, Thornburg, Fister, Abad, Holt, Boyer, Rutledge. Could we have got by without Nunez, Fister and others? He might have been able to trade Young after 2016, but that's hindsight BS. We needed a 4th OF'er. I'm not complaining about DD's spending. He's done better than Ben on contracts.
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I think Zim did, too, but I remember the group of Lee, Carbo and I think Willoughby during the Johnson era. I forget their nickname... something like the "White Buffalos". However, Lee was traded while Zim was the manager.
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Fair point. I'm almost always front and center on the acquire a pitcher bandwagon, and I do agree we could use a 2/3 or 3/4 starter type, but to me we have two higher needs: 1) Clean-up hitter (preferably 1B or 3B if we move Devers to 1B) 2) 4th OF'er (who could cover DH, if HRam fails) I'm not sure there's enough money to get all three, and I sure as hell would prefer we don't trade anymore prospects (unless it's for Stanton).
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I never said he was worried about being insulted, and I even wrote in bold.
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I forgot about the 5 games he managed that year. I was thinking of the 60's.
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The only way would have been to not have almost all of these players: 5.5 Moreland Fister Boyer Not add (pro-rated deals): Nunez Reed Davis Maybe trade or DFA: $6.5M Young $2M Abad $2M Holt
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If you were here for Pesky, then what about Johnson?
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There's probably 20+ teams that just flat out would not pay anyone that salary. His luxury number of $25M is less than the actual, so that adds value to the top spending teams straddling the limit year after year. I'd say maybe 4-6 teams might get serious.
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They could trade for an arb player and flip them immediately or after 1-2 years, depending on how much they want to compete now. A three team trade could also work.
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It might bump our power up a little, but if the guy hits .211, it's not an upgrade over Beni.
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1) It is a 3-4 year window not 2. 2) Firing JF was essential, and that meant losing the coaches. It's not rocket science. 3) We had a high priority to re-set the luxury tax, so the winter spending budget was not "huge". Other than getting all 3 points wrong, I kind of liked Larry's assessment.
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If we signed EE, we'd probably have ended up over the luxury limit, and/or we'd not have gotten Fister, Moreland, Nunez, Reed and Davis. No re-set.
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I almost put Thompson #15. As you can see, I count speculative value more than soxprospects.com and others.
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My top Sox prospect list: 1. Chavis 2. Mata 3. Groome 4. Flores 5. Ockimey 6. Houck 7. Scherff 8. Brannen 9. Beeks 10. Maddox 11. Travis 12. Chatham 13. Shawaryn 14. D Diaz 15. Raudes Sleeper: Jake Cosart (45th on soxprospects.com)
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Yea, I didn't take it that way. I was just saying I'd say no.
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I hope the Sox don't do that deal. 30 HRs and 59 RBI. .211 BA (career .222) .315 OBP (career .329)
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The cost of closers sky-rocketed right after we traded for Kimbrel. I've always loved Kimbrel, and I thought he'd remain a top 3 closer all 3 years, but I thought the overpay was too much. fangraph's WAR: 2016: 1.2 ($9.6M fangraphs value) 2017: 3.3 ($26.1M) 2018: tba
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I know ERod is hurt and Price is questionable, but it seems weird that last year we didn't need pitching, but this year we do. Last winter Pom was questionable and Wright was injured.
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Lots of Sox players on the list... 7 Betts 21 Sale 26 Beni (41 Moncada) 45 Bogey 46 JBJ
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I think they were gauging interest, perhaps for a winter deal. The salary issues with the Sox trying to reset their luxury tax kept them from making an offer this summer. I think other teams did not claim him, because they did not want the distraction or didn't want to put together a deal at that time. I find it hard to believe no team claimed him, because they were afraid Miami might just hand him over for nothing in return.
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They'll still take the best offer, and that depends on how much one GM will give up. I don't think of him as a classic "salary dump", since Miami will get something nice. I've been saying all along, I do not think the return will be super great for Stanton, but it will be substantial. However, all it takes is two GMs who really want him to drive the price up to beyond "substantial".
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Chavis got his first two starts at 1B- making one error. Owens didn't walk a batter in his last start! He did, hwever, let up 5 runs in 4 innings. Looks like it's time to non tender him. Travis is learning LF. Swihart is catching and has these numbers in 8 games: .417/.517/.500. Brentz hit 3 HRs in one Mexican Pacific League game.
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Or maybe Caribou.
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They couldn't guarantee him a slot in the rotation. A minor league offer would have been a slap in Hill's face. I also think they would not come close to the money he ended up getting.
