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My look at our current depth chart (ML or near ML ready): C: Vaz - Leon Swihart, Romanski, Procyshen 1B: HRam- Travis (Devers/Holt/Swihart) Chavis, Witte, Ockimey 2B: Pedroia- Hernandez- Holt Lin, Marrero, M Miller 3B: Devers- Hernandez- Holt Lin, Marrero, Chavis, Witte SS: Bogaerts- Hernandez-Lin- Holt Marrero, de la Guerra LF: Benintendi- Holt (Shaw, Chavis, Swihart) Brentz, Mars CF: Bradley (Beni/Betts/Holt) Mars, Castillo RF: Betts - Holt (JBJ/Beni) Brentz. Mars, Castillo SP: Sale, Price, Pomeranz, Porcello, Rodriguez, Wright Velzquez, Johnson, Elias, Haley, Beeks, Lakins RP: Kimbrel, Smith, (Thornburg), Kelly, Barnes, Maddox, Workman, Hembree, Scott Taylot, Jerez, Martin, Shepherd, Buttrey, Coisart
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I don't mean to bore anyone with talk of the Bucks, but that Bucks team of the early 70's could have been a dynasty. They drafted Julius Erving in 1972, but he went to the ABA and was later stolen from the Bucks by the Hawks. The Bucks later drafted Alex English in 1976, but they let him slip away, My favorite Buck of all time was Sidney Moncrief with Ricky Pierce not far behind (also Paul Pressey). Another Bucks "what if": not trading Dirk Nowitzski for Tractor Trailor.
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I was thinking the same thing a while back. EE looks more and more like "the one that got away" as we see these prices seemingly going up and up.
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The Big O was pretty much over-the-hill by the time the Bucks got him, but even then, he was amazing. People remember he averaged a triple double one year, but he also did it for a 3-4 combined year stretch to begin his career. He revolutionized the "big guard" aspect of the game. When Lucious Allen went down, it forced Oscar to be the point guard. The Celtics masterfully instituted a full court press from wire to wire and tired the Big O out. Mickey Davis filled in well, but ti wasn't enough. Allen had averages 18 points (3rd on the team) and 5 assists (2nd) per game in 1974 Other Bucks on that 1974 runner-up team besides Jabbar, Dandridge & Robertson: Jon McGlocklin Curtis Perry Cornell Warner Dick Garrett Terry Driscoll
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Look at the overall effect: 3B: Moustakas 1B: HRam (eventually Devers) DH: Devers vs 3B: Devers 1B: Santana DH: HRam If you only look at defense, especially for 2018 only, I'll take the Moose scenario. If you want power first and OBP second, Moose is slightly better than Santana. That being said, I'm moving closer to wanting Santana over Moose, especially if the money is significantly different.
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Would you take Santana over Moustakas at the same rate?
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I'd rather have HRam too, and so would the CWS. That's one of the pluses they get.
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Sorry. I misread your point. My bad.
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Yeah, "hate" is a strong word, but as a kid, the frustration morphs into anger and sometimes boils over.
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If JD and Stanton become way too expensive, I think I'd be happy with this: Sign: Santana $58M/4 B Shaw $21M/3 L Duda $7M/1 1. Bogey SS 2. Betts RF 3. Beni LF 4. Santana 1B 5. Devers 3B 6. HRam DH/1B or Duda DH/OF/1B 7. Pedroia 2B 8. JBJ CF 9. Vaz C Bench: Leon, Duda, Hernandez or Holt, Swihart/Brentz/Marrero/Lin/Travis SP: Sale, Price, Pom, Porcello, ERod/Wright/Johnson/Beeks/Haley RP: Kimbrel, Shaw, Smith, Kelly, Barnes, Hembree, Scott/Maddox/Workman/Thornburg
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...and you do hear many teams saying they want to reset the luxury tax, like the Sox did this year.
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My childhood favorite player was Bobby Dandridge. I remember the Bucks losing to the Semltics in 7 games as Lucious Allen slipped on a warm-up jacket and blew out his knee before the series. I hated the Celtics for years, but now I appreciate what they have done to rebuild. Also, I hated Danny Ainge after his coast-to-coast drive past every Notre Dame player in the 1981 NCAA tournament eliminated my Fighting irish. (I was at ND for that year as well as Joe Montana's 1977 championship season.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWdQ6IClxTc
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I don't think restricting a player's salary helps the "overall" salaries go up. If they give less to Bogey, it doesn't mean they will give it to JBJ. The highest salaries are what drives the next highest salaries. The next highest drives the next group just below them. Look at arbitration. It keeps players on their team and severely restricts their salary for several years. They often get "rewarded" after the fact by big FA contracts that look like an overpay, but in many cases they were "underpaid" before free agency. This is entertainment. Look what Oprah makes
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I get it, but teams still "look to" improve, even if they might realize they are getting worse. (Maybe they look to not get even more worse.) I do think the Sox are looking to get better- to have a better opening day roster than last year, at least on paper. We could get better by just having Devers, Price, Wright, Smith and others for a full season, but I think we're going to try to upgrade our clean-up slot in the line-up and/or 1B (which might be the same move).
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Like I said, I do NOT WANT SHIELDS! I'd take shields only to lessen the prospects needed to go back to the CWS or to force them to take HRam or Castillo as an offset of salary.
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Agreed. Even World Champs look to improve.
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I hate to admit it, but the Smeltics are looking damn good so far this year! (In case you're wondering, I lived in Milwaukee during the Alcindor/Jabbar years and remain a Bucks fan.)
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Since the CWS only owe $11M on Shields maybe you're right minus one of the prospects I included.
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If we sign Martinez, he's the 4th OF'er/DH. He'll play OF at all NL parks and when one of our OF'er need a rest. I see Holt as the 5th OF'er, so we wouldn't need Brentz with JD on the 25 man roster.
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It's easy to pick up an OF'er mid season. Go with Brentz to start the season. BTW, I was against giving Vic 3 years, because I felt he was going to decline quickly. He had a great 2013 season, despite missing some time. Without Vic, we probably don't win the ring that year. He was that good. He did decline quickly after 2013, but the signing was worth it, IMO.
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True, but it's not really an absurd idea. Usually salary dumps are one way deals not exchanges. There's hardly many big contract trades that aren't "dumps" either. I do remember the Mike Piazza & Todd Zielle for Gary Sheffield, Bobby Bonilla and others mega deal. , I don't want Shields, but we do need a 5th starter type and if we could get JD and Abreu without breaking up the OF, trading salary dumps might work out well for us while giving the Whitesox a 1Bman to take Abreu's place and someone better than their "dump".
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Jamie Shields is worse than HRam and owed more. Did you notice that?
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How's this? Sign: JD Martinez (DH-4th OF'er) Sign: B Shaw Trade: HRam (He's better than Shields), Chavis, Ockimey, Houck & Shawaryn For: Jose Abreu (2 arb years remaining) & Jamie Shields ($21M/1 + $2M buyout) 1. Bogey SS 2. Betts RF 3. Abreu 1B 4. Martinez DH 5. Beni LF 6. Devers 3B 7. Pedey 2B 8. JBJ CF 9. Vaz C Bench: Leon, Hernandez, Travis, Swihart/Holt/Marrero SP: Sale, Price, Pom, Porcello, Shields-Wright (ERod, Velzquez, Beeks, Johnson) RP: Kimbrel, Shaw, Smith, Kelly, Barnes, Maddox, Hembree (Workman, Scott, Thornburg)
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Any word yet on just how much bonus money they got back?
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Mariners make another trade... (MLBTR) By Steve Adams | November 16, 2017 at 11:08am CDT The Mariners announced on Thursday that they’ve traded right-hander Thyago Vieira to the White Sox in exchange for international bonus money. The move opens a spot on Seattle’s 40-man roster in advance of next week’s deadline to set 40-man rosters for the Rule 5 Draft, and it also gives the Mariners some additional funds for the pursuit of Shohei Ohtani and other high-end international amateurs.
