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Brock has options: Leon does not. Holt starts off in AAA, if it was up to me.

Also, Boston would be able to make Martinez a qualifying offer, should he decide to opt out of the remaining three years of the deal...

Sox get medical language inserted into contract... https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/02/jd-martinez-redsox-contract-medical-protection-three-opt-outs.html ....Specifically, Drellich further reports, the Red Sox can convert both years four and five of the contract into mutual options, pursuant to the newly drawn up language. In essence, then, the Sox have negotiated their own means of walking away from the final two years of the contract in the event that Martinez’s foot proves to be a chronic condition. Per Drellich, should Martinez spend 60 consecutive days on the DL in year three of the contract (2020) with an injury related to his prior Lisfranc injury, the fourth year can be converted into a mutual option. Boston could also convert the fourth year to a mutual option should an injury pertaining to the prior Lisfranc issue prompt Martinez miss a combined 120 days between the second and third years of the deal (2019-20), with at least 10 of those days coming in year three. (The Boston Globe’s Nick Cafardo first tweeted that the team could render the fourth year a mutual option.) Boston is similarly protected in the fifth season of the contract. If an injury pertaining to his previous Lisfranc issue causes Martinez to miss 60 consecutive days in the fourth year of the deal (2021) or a combined 120 days in 2020-21 (with at least 10 in year four), then the 2022 season can be converted to a mutual option. All determinations about whether a new Lisfranc injury for Martinez is related to the 2017 injury would be made by a panel of three doctors. No wonder it took a week to finalize the deal!

I used to believe one should start making out a line-up card by putting your best overall hitter 3rd. Proof, I'm not rigid in my beliefs and opinions.

Out of the 8 pitchers who had 60+ PAs with both Vaz & Leon, 7 had a lower OPS against when Leon was catching. How much better does Swihart have to hit to make up for that? (Plus, Swihart is likely worse than Vaz with handling pitchers.) I hope Swi makes the team as our 3rd catcher, 5th LF'er and maybe 3rd 1Bman.

Me neither. OPS against by pitcher-catcher RED= better OPS Against with 60+ PAs with both catchers (7 to 1 Leon) with Leon/ with Vaz Sale .585 (824 PAs) 1.138 (27) Porcello .824 (709) / .832 (176) Fister .666 (255) / .845 (137) Hembree .609 (133) / 1.012 (135) M Barnes .592 (110) / .707 (174) Joe Kelly .546 (98) / .648 (127) CKimbrel .406 (97) / 472 (153) BJohnson .741 (96) / 1.127 (25) S. Wright 1.223 (87) / .912 (27) B. Boyer .834 (76) / .802 (98) R Scott .476 (67) / .832 (74) Fer Abad .851 (57) / .593 (125) Workman .818 (62) / .716 (94) with Vaz Pomeranz .697 (721) /1.297 (19) Tiny sample size Rodriguez .740 (579) / .000 (3) Teenie tiny Da. Price .666 (311) /.000 (6) Teenie tiny

That's assuming nobody else gets hurt, but if that happens after Pedey returns, our 4 man bench could be.... Leon C Swihart C, 1B, LF Nunez 2B, 3B, LF, SS, RF Moreland 1B, LF Holt in AAA Marrero traded or DFA'd when Pedey returns.

Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post If I could jump in here, based on what Kimmi has said in the past, you should probably have your 5th-best hitter in the #3 spot. My man. That's why I liked the idea of HRam batting 3rd. 1. Beni 2. Betts (our best hitter) 3. HRam (our 5th best hitter-maybe) 4. JD (our best power guy) 5. Devers 6. Nunez 7. Bogey 8. JBJ 9. Vaz

Here's the numbers on JD's defense: Career: UZR/150 LF: -4.7 (2336 innings) RF: -6.5 (3717 innings) Getting worse, though 2016/2017 LF: -18.2/-6.9 RF: -21.5/-14.8 DRS: Career LF: -4 (-4 last 2 yrs combined and 0 prior 2 yrs combined) RF: -28 (-27 last 2 yrs combined and -1 previous 4 yrs combined) Nunez has very little experience in the OF, but is numbers look good out there: Career: LF: +20.8 (283 innings) -2 DRS RF: +7.0 (39 innings) -1 DRS

Agreed, but Nunez isn't much better in LF.

Yes, Nunez can play LF. I want him at 2B until Pedey returns. I get the idea of trying to keep JD healthy, but giving HRam time at DH has benefits as well. Plus, JD wants to play OF, so I'll throw him a few bones and cross my fingers.

JD should play LF in Fenway and maybe RF elsewhere, whenever an OF'er needs a rest. This will allow HRam to DH (and rest some) and Moreland to get some ABs at 1B. I'm expecting JD to play about 20 games in the OF, assuming no OF'er goes on the DL.

Yes, we are done. JD will not play RF in Fenway.

Major penalties for going over $40M over.

JD Drew took 7 weeks, and fans loved him from day one. (sarcasm alert)

I'm willing to give him a long look.

I'd try to keep both. Leon gets the best out of our staff, and having 3 catchers (one who can play elsewhere) allows us to PH for our catchers more often.

MLBTR reports... Feb. 26: Nearly a full week after agreeing to terms with Martinez, the Red Sox have formally announced his five-year deal. He’ll be introduced at a press conference at 9am ET.

Not a bad idea, but haven't we too many recovering injured pitchers as it is?

There's not enough money left to get "quality", unless we get someone who over performs expectations. I'm against this idea, but we could trade JBJ and Johnson for a quality pitcher and go with JD in LF, HRam at DH and Moreland/Swihart at 1B. The only other way I can see is to find a taker for HRam and maybe Holt, while we pay a major portion of his deal, and then we can afford a better pitcher.

If any of these "bubble players" who are out of options deserves a chance, I think it is Johnson. I like Swihart's chances at making the 25 man roster, and I think Marrero's days are numbers. I guess, if Marco and Pedey are on the DL, he may hang on until the first one returns.

We're too close to the major penalty limit to sign Cobb, Arrieta or Lynn. By my calculations, we might have $4-6M to spend, unless we dump salary somewhere. Elias had a little stretch of success in Seattle before coming to Boston and dealing with injury. How can you proclaim Velazquez was given a chance and failed? Look, I'm not happy with our starter depth either, and hopefully ERod is not out for too long. I cans ee why we chose not to spend large at SP'er this year. Maybe one of these guys will do okay as a placeholder for ERod/Wright... Elias Velazquez Johnson Beeks Haley I wonder, if they've considered stretching Workman out to a starter role.

Well, if his injury affects his future career, the opt-outs are meaningless, we'll have him for 5 years.

My point was intended to portray the idea of spreading the risk as being better in light of the low cost of LoMo's deal and the expected bargain for Moustakas and probably Cobb or Lynn.

About our Sox prospects... http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=bos Red Sox's 2018 preseason top 30 prospects list WWW.MLB.COM When the Red Sox hired David Dombrowski as president of baseball operations in August 2015, they had a big league club headed toward its second consecutive last-place finish, yet hope in the form of the best farm system in baseball. Fast forward to today, and they're the two-time defending American