moonslav59

Better for me is, who is your number 2? I go with Pom AWAY ERA 3.19 Pom 3.99 ERod Home 3.58 Pom 3.81 ERod

Even if we lost last night, I'd call it a lock. maybe not deadbolt lock but still a lock. 2 up with 4 to go are great odds.

Sox: 9 Stros: 5

I don't see trading for a big piece as an option. We can't create new holes or further deplete the farm. I'd try to sign JD Martinez and a 1 year deal 1Bman like Duda or Morrison. That would squeeze HRam's PAs but not really address any 2B injury issues. We'd have to hope Hernandez, Lin and others can do well enough, if needed.

If the two are better than Hembree, we'll have to trade him due to him having no options left, or the two will have to agree to minor league deals or have options remaining. Here's how our pen looks next year without any additions: Kimbrel Smith Kelly Thornburg Barnes Ross Hembree (no options) Wright Workman Scott Maddox Taylor Martin Johnson/Velazquez/Beeks/Haley/Elias/Owens I just don't see much room. As it is now, we have Hembree, Wright, Workman, Scott and Maddox fighting for one slot. Sure sign a couple vets to minor league deals, but that's hardly even worth mentioning.

Good points, but I still wish we'd rested him more in September.

fangraphs value 2015: $39.2M 2016: $63.3M 2017: $40.1M (so far)

The great part may be true, but my beef was over the "s*****" comment about the "rest of the season". .792 is actually pretty good, and .765 is decent. .669 and GG defense is good enough. That makes 3 of the remaining 6 time frames you listed as s*****. One could say, "he's great one month a year and then s***** for half of the rest of the year."

Yes. In that order. If we need a 4, it will be Porcello or Sale on short rest.

Adding Castillo, signing JD plus 2 relievers would likely put us over the second penalty level. Castillo is not going to be added to the 40 man, unless his contract plus the tax makes him worth it (highly unlikely). I don't think we need 2 RP'er. We may not need 1. We should have Smith FT. Thornburg could help. Ross, too. Wright might be the long guy. Workman all year. Barnes and Hembree are a year more experienced. Scott, Maddox, Taylor There's lots of question marks, but because there are so many, I feel confident 7-8 will do well enough to earn a spot in the pen and do well.

Not true, in fact, it's a gross distortion of the facts. Here are his OPS by month since he became FT in AUG 2015: .596 .596 .651 .731 .739 .770 .805 .807 .808 .839 1.009 1.163 1.175 Just because he as no .900 months does mean he has sucked every month, except the 3 over 1.000. He's had 5 between .770 and .840. That's 8 out of his last 13 months over .770. 10 out of 13 over .730. (not counting SEPT '17, so one can project 8 out of 14 and 10 out 14.) I know the guy is in an awful slump, but let's not re-write history over it.

I'm not counting both of their slow starts to their careers, but they are both very streaky. 2015 (since FT for JBJ) to today Monthly Bogey 2015: >>>.761/.876 (Pretty consistent) 2016: .785/.1.017/.815/.830/.599/.750 (A little more inconsistent: 1 very big, 2 pretty good, 2 in the middle, 1 very bad) 2017: .731/.949/.763/.452/.683/.792 (Yo-yo: 1 very good, 3 middle, 1 pretty bad and 1 horrible) JBJ 2015: 1.163/.739 (1 great- 1 middle, I guess you could say inconsistent, but it's only 2 months and none were very bad)) 2016: .807/1.175/.805/.839/.651/.731 (4 months over .800 with one being great, 1 okay, 1 bad, but nothing below .651) 2017: .596/.808/.1.009/.596/.770/.529 (1 great, 2 good, 3 very bad-- very streaky year.) Not counting September 2017: .452 Bogey .596 JBJ .596 JBJ .599 Bogey .651 JBJ .683 Bogey .731 Bogey .731 JBJ .739 JBJ .750 Bogey (mean) .761 Bogey .763 Bogey .770 JBJ .785 Bogey .805 JBJ .807 JBJ .808 JBJ .815 Bogey .830 Bogey .839 JBJ .876 Bogey .949 Bogey 1.009 JBJ 1.017 Bogey 1.163 JBJ 1.175 JBJ To me, they look pretty even. If September continues with JBJ slumping badly, they will both have about the same amount of bad months with JBJ having more great months. Bogey has a cluster in the .700's while JBj has one in the low .800's. They are 3-3 in the bottom 6 monthly OPS. They are 3-3 in the top 6 OPS.

No, I said ONE OF THE LAST guys I'd trade- not THE last guy. I just moved Vaz ahead of him, because of years of team control and the value I place on catcher defense. If you take away the money and years of control, and go just by value today and next year, here's my order: 1) Betts 2) JBJ 3) Beni 4) Devers 5) Vaz 6) Bogey 7) Pedey 8) HRam

It's been a lock for about a week now. Today, I'd view it as a dead bolt lock.

Bogey's been bringing up the rear in Sox OPS (8th out of 8 top PA players) until last night. He's now 7th, but he's about one more big game away from moving to 4th or 5th- assuming those above him don't also have big games.

I live just southwest of Houston. I've been waiting for Peacock to come down to earth all year. It begins tonight.

He can't help it: he was born that way.

It would be great, if the offense many of us thought would be top 3 to 5 in MLB this year, would hit like they did tonight from here on out.

He is in a horrible slump right now. Luckily, he did get an RBI tonight. That being said, to look this bad and for so long and still have a .733 OPS speaks to doing something good for a long enough stretch at points during this year to keep his OPS from not being all that bad. He's a couple big games from being in the middle of the pack on this team. For that, we should trade him? 2 big games? Really? We shouldn't need stats to see how silly the idea is.

Sounds doable. That's really how you view it?

Calling a HR a Porcello is the funniest thing I've seen on this site in a long time. It's funnier to extend metaphor to say one of this team's biggest weakness is that we don't have enough Porcellos!

I'll trade anybody and everybody "for the right return", so I'm not sure what that means, until you name a name. All I know is that he's one of the last guys I'd consider trading. He's low cost. He has 4 arb years not 3 like some. We have a tricky CF in our park and a lot of room to cover out there. He's worth a ton on D. He rarely makes base-running mistakes. His arm can be a little erratic at times, but it's a strong plus nevertheless. He keeps runners from even trying to take an extra base. There's a lot of things he does that do not show up in the box score. Considering years of team control, contract cost and overall skill set, I'd rank our top players something like this: Everyday starting players only 1) Betts 2) Beni (One could argue his extra years make him more valuable than Betts, but the D tips the balance.) 3) Devers 4) JBJ 5) Vaz 6) Bogey 7) Pedey It's hard to know who I'd choose to trade, if I had to. If I could get way more for Devers than JBJ, then I'd do] it.

Yes, and hopefully he gets hot when others are down and we need a win. Every time anyone slumps, the boo birds come out. JBJ will heat up again, and then the trade talk stops...again. Streaky players can be frustrating, but just give me the final numbers and I'll live with the hot and cold streaks.

Bogaerts has two problems. 1) he can't recognize a slider (this is not unique to this season, it's been a career long issue) 2) he gets tired You forgot #3: At worst, he's a slightly below average defender at a position where defense matters mightily. Plus, people talk about JBJ being a slumper. If you look at Bogey's ups and downs, he's worse.

The slumps are annoying, but the guy ends up with decent numbers year after year, since that bad start. His defense makes up for a .675 OPS and he's over .730 now, even with all the prolonged slumps. Speaking of OPS, with Bogey having the big game, and JBj slumping, they've passed each other on the top Sox OPS list: .800 Betts .788 Beni .767 Pedey .759 Moreland .749 HRam .747 Vaz .743 Bogey .733 JBJ Still just a .067 differential from top to bottom. Isn't "no black holes" wonderful? Sometimes, we need to be careful what we wish for.