moonslav59

Warm climes (or domed stadium cities) could bid for the World Series like the Super Bowl.

He's not going to be looking for big names, but if he does, there's a guy named Mookie.

We could trade for pitchers with contracts not appealing to their current team but are still valuable. We could also still deal JBJ, like I thought was the plan when we tendered him a contract, to free up more money for a pitcher. Maybe some sort of trade like JBJ, Workman and ____ for Familia, Smith and Matz. I'm not sure we have what it takes to get Syndergaard, and his 2 years of team control may not be all that desirable, except to generate excitement and fan interest. (Matz & Familia have only 2 years, too, but Smith is still pre-arb.

I've only owned one Sox shirt with a name on the back. I still wear it to mow the lawn and do yard work. The name: Josh Beckett. (It was gifted to me.)

I thought taking back Pollock instead of paying $48M for Price made sense, since we'd get an OF'er, still save a ton on the tax budget and get someone like Verdugo as well. (I was hoping for Gonsolin and Cartaya or Gonsolin, Gray and Wong.) I was okay with getting Myers, but only if they took Price.

No, the computer says LA got hosed.

I'm thinking Henry will be okay with going over the tax line again, but probably not by $40M. He may be very harsh on mega deals for long years (Good bye Betts for good) I'm thinking he hired Bloom to find multiple moderate deals instead of just a few big deals, while also rebuilding the farm to the point where we can count on a steady stream of young, low cost players from withing the organization- hopefully even a starting pitcher or two. It may take much longer to get back to serious contention than I'm hoping for, but I think we are now on the right track by building up the farm and freeing up a large chunk of the budget for 3 years. He's probably not done. He may find a way to dump more salary before season's end. He may find a few bargain players that help us in 2020 and or beyond, but my real optimism lies in the upcoming winter, when Bloom may have a sizable spending budget to use. If Henry insists on another under tax season in 2021, we may have to wait longer to be significant, but even so, having Bloom is perfect for that situation, too.

I'm not claiming the trade value site is super accurate or all that trustworthy, but it's interesting to see how lopsided they viewed the trade. It would not have been accepted due to LA not getting enough value. Price: -55.3 Value/owed $96M. Break even number: $41.7M. The Dodgers are paying $48M, so we gained $6.3M in "value." Betts: +50.7 Value (despite the $27M/1 contract) Verdugo: +47.7 Value J Downs: +21.7 Value C Wong: +4.3 Value Total: 73.7 Value Sox net gain on talent: +23 Sox net gain on Price: +6.3 Total Sox gain: +29.3

He had to wait to be sure Price was dumped and how much he'd have to work with.

Agreed, and it cheapens the 162 game schedule designed to separate the good from the bad. The only change I could see as being a possible improvement would be to go with 6 teams and do away with the play-in game and have the two best division winners get a buy while the 3-6 seeds play a short 3 game series to get it to 4 teams. 3 plays 6 and 4 plays 5.

I don't know, but we do have a GM with a completely different M.O. than DD, and I'm guessing/hoping we go back to spending large after we reset- just not stupidly and not all the eggs in 1-2 baskets, unless it's Betts.

Hard to know. He's a special case. His AVV is $10.3M, but his actual salary is over $14M. If we wait until June or July, only a pro-rated amount counts.

Hard to imagine a 7 team format that doesn't leave the buy team(s) waiting too long to play. 1 buy team, 6 teams play a 5 game series? 2 buy teams, 3 teams wait for the play-in winner to join for 5 game series? I shutter to think they go to 8 teams, but there'd be a lot of money in all those playoff games and having more teams in the regular season race, too.

Sounds like a man with a plan(s).

soxprospects.com projects this roster for 2021: C Vaz & Plawecki 1B Moreland (option) & Chavis 2B Downs & Peraza 3B Devers & Dalbec SS Bogey & Chatham (Lin) LF Beni CF Duran & Wilson RF Verdugo DH JD SP Sale, ERod, Eovaldi, Perez, Mata/Ward RP DHern, Barnes, Taylor, Houck, Hembree, Brasier, Feltman, Velazquez, Osich, Mazza

Soxprospects.com has this listed for our 2022 projected roster: C Vaz & Wong 1B Casas & Chavis 2B Downs & Lin 3B Devers & Dalbec SS Bogey & Chatham LF Beni CF Duran & Wildon RF Verdugo DH Martinez SP Sale, Eovalid, Mata, Ward & Groome RP DHern, Houk, Taylor, Feltman, Brasier, Velazquez, Osich, Mazza, Shugart, Aybar By 2023, add Zeferjahn, N Song, Jimenez, Cannon & Decker among others

It was very nice when we had Betts, Bogey, JBJ and others making pre-arb and early arb dollars. They contributed greatly while allowing budget space to fill other high need areas.

It might not have been so bad, if they could start 75-80+ games a year, but...

In theory, Chavis could platoon at 1B, and if he doesn't work out, we have Dalbec. It's then one position we have 2 ML ready young players/prospects. I agree, JD should never play OF, except at NL parks, and even then, I'd schedule all his rest days there, if possible. We need pitching for 2021 and beyond, and also for 2020, so that should be our main focus for a trade. A RH'd OF'er would be nice. If we stay well below the luxury tax, we could bring up Castillo for a partial year- his last season of control.

Ain't that the truth.

I'd like to see him back. I guess we'd have to give Arauz back (rule 5), but guys like Holt help in a lot of ways not captured by stats or metrics. I was kind of thinking he was holding out in hopes we freed up some budget space, and he could come back to where he wants to play.

Good point. When our team can't develop starting pitchers and we have to pay mega buck for Price, Sale (in trade and dollars) and Eovaldi, it makes it hard to spend large on other positions.

Plus, look how much we spent above the next team or the 3rd or 4th team. It was sick. A reset was mandatory.

Henry has brought glory and success to this franchise, something I wasn't sure I'd ever see in my lifetime. We saw past GMs and owners treat blacks poorly, not even send a contract to Fisk (losing him for nothing) and years and years of spending just enough to give us the impression we might win. What did we do? We flocked to Fenway in droves, signed up for NESN every year, and bought Red Sox memorabilia left and right. Now, Henry decides to step back, and when I say step back, I'm talking still being a top 5 spender in MLB, and people want to rip him a new A-hole and boycott the team. 99.9% of the time, I take the side of the employee or union, but I'm siding with Henry on this one. The guy has single-handedly brought us up from the ashes. Four freaking rings! Plus, it's not like Henry has pledged to never spend again. He spent way more than any other team last year and then paid a hefty tax on top just to watch us flop. I'd want to reset, too. We should be able to win without going over the tax line by $40M every year, and if it takes a year to reset, before we get back into the race, I'm fine with the strategy. We all knew DD was going for "today" at the expense of tomorrow, and eventually that strategy catches up to you. It caught up to us earlier than anyone expected, and to me, resetting is the best way to make the rebuild shorter and better. I'll still have fun watching the Sox, this year. I'll watch every pitch of every game and actually feel better this year than last. I expected us to win in 2019 knowing our time was near. Now, I have lower expectation for the upcoming season but am way more optimistic about the extended future, which includes way more than just one year. It would have really sucked watching us lose again in 2020 knowing we'd also be screwed for many years to come.

He's a scumbag that preyed on a vulnerable 16 year old girl. I'd bet my left nut something intimate happened before she was 18. IMO, she didn't say anything, as many don't, because it was a consensual relationship and he gave her tons of money and took her to nice places. He cheated on his wife and family. He's a known liar and cheat. Your court of law position assumes rich people aren't able to game the system. Look how long guys like Epstien and Harvey got away with abuses. Look at Michael Jackson. I firmly believe Clemens is a child molester. If he wants to sue me, he can. I get the desire to defend the rule of law, but we all should agree he's a scumbag, even if no sex happened until age 18 (wink wink).