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So? I don't think Dewey belongs, either. I also think had UZR/150 been around, Dewey would blow Cal away on Defense. It wouldn't even be close. Look, I didn't want to open a can of worms. I would not have even 60% of the players in the HOF now. No Cal. No Dewey.No Morris. No many.

Yes, Lugo and Zeferjahn were drafted in the DD era. My bad.

Yes, but I'm loving seeing Brice batting 5th. Gabby Sanchez has been their best hitter. Of course, when players come back from injuries...

I think Bogey likes Boston. I hope he stays, despite his lack luster defense at such a key position. We don't really have anyone in the system to play SS, if he opts out, and most of the better SS are FAs, this winter, not next. I'm not so sure 1 or 2 from Duran, Downs and Casas make a big impact, but I am optimistic. I agree: extend ERod and sign an ace, but who? Grenke, Verlander, Scherzer (all 36 or older)? Kershaw or Syndergaard? We also could have way more than $45M to spend, after 2022, so maybe that plays into allowing us to go way over in 2022: some have options for 2022 13.8 Pedey 10.0 Richards 8.9 Ottavino 8.3 ERod 5.0 Perez 4.5 Barnes 3.1 Renfroe 3.0 Gonzalez 2.8 Beni 1.9 Andriese After 2022: 22 JD Maybe 20 w Bogey opt out 17 Eovaldi 16 Price 7 EHern 4.5 Vaz 1.6 Plawecki 1.5 Sawamura

Fangraphs shows Cal was better than Dwight on defense?

Did they even have UZR/150 and DRS back then?

Batters in the HOF (including pitchers listed): https://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/hof_batting.shtml Starting at about an OPS of .840 and below (or #80), I'd ax most of 'em, but realize fielding is a big part of baseball.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/hof_pitching.shtml By and large, the vast majority of pitchers with an ERA over 3.00 should not be in, but ERA is not my stat of choice.

He's not the only guy with 90+ bWAR not in my HOF. Here's a list of the top career WAR players. Cal is listed at 35th, so that seems like a lock. Not to me. (I also think his fielding was over-rated.) https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_career.shtml

Nope. It took 21 years to get those WAR cumulative numbers. He was a drag on his team for many years, especially during the end of the "streak." .788 career OPS (112 OPS+) Dwight Evans was twice the fielder Cal was and had an .840 OPS (127+). Cal had a few awesome years, no doubt, but it was the 21 years, his name and the streak that got him in.

I'm not sure Richards will do any better for us.

My updated top prospect list (sox prospects.com ranking): 1 (7) Houck 2 (5) Dalbec 3 (1) Casas 4 (2) Downs 5 (4) Jimenez 6 (3) Duran 7 (16) Whitlock 8 (9) Seabold 9 (11) Song 10 (6) Mata 11 (17) Rosario 12 (8) Ward 13 (14) R Hernandez 14 (23) Arauz 15 (10) A Ramirez 16 (29) German 17 (33) Winckowski 18 (22) Bazardo 19 (13) Yorke 20 (12) Groome 21 (19) Potts 22 (25) Wong 23 (26) Bello 24 (18) Lugo 25 (20) Jordan

Word here is they are very far apart.

Everyone as good as Cal and worse.

It should probably be 150-160 players.

Bauer Under Investigation?

How many are in the HOF, now- as players? (My guess is, I'd cut it by 33-50%.)

Thinking longer term, maybe Bogey opts out after 2022. I see Raffy as a solid 1Bman, if he does not pass the 3B test, this year. That means Dalbec plays 3B or DH, when JD moves on, of he proves he doesn't belong in the everyday line-up. I kinda like Bogey at 2B not 3B, but then what? We trade Downs?

Can we squeeze in Ty Cobb?

To switch towards maybe a more realistic discussion about who could be signed, this winter. Here is one recent list of the top FAs: 1. Greinke (37) At least he won't get a long term deal. 2. Verlander (37) Another shorter deal. 3. Scherzer (36) Maybe 1-2 years more than G & V get. 4. Kershaw (32) Hard to see the Dodgers letting him slip away. 5. Syndergaard (28) Young enough for a long deal 6. Rizzo (31) Do we need a 1Bman? 7. Belt (32) I would not sign him, even if we needed a 1Bman. 8. Freeman (31) Just say no to 1Bmen. 9. Conforto (27) Depends on how our young Of'ers are looking. 10. Kris Bryant (29) 3B/LF- got 'em covered. 11. Correa (26) In meat of prime, but we have Bogey (or do we, long term?) 12. Baez (28) Another SS. 13. T Story (28) Again! 14. Seager (26) and again! Nobody really jumps off the page. Others at possible positions of need: SP: Lance Lynn, Marcus Stroman, Kevin Gausman, Corey Kluber, Eduardo Rodriguez, Dylan Bundy, James Paxton, Robbie Ray RP: Kenley Jansen, Trevor Rosenthal, Brad Hand, Andrew Miller, Jeurys Familia, Archie Bradley, Raisel Iglesias, Adam Ottavino, Kirby Yates OF: Tommy Pham, Starling Marte, Kyle Schwarber (mutual option), Eddie Rosario, Corey Dickerson, Nick Castellanos (opt-out) 2B: Starlin Castro

All of the below. Yes, the HOF is small town in moonslav, USA.

Not to open a can of worms, but I don't even think Cal belongs.

We don't need Bloom here to know he'll be spending large next winter. The only question is, will it be big on just a few players or spread out over many players. How many positions will be filled from within the system may determine some of that.

To me, the HOF is not for "the best." It is for the best of the best.

then use him every other day.