moonslav59

Other teams lose payroll, too and don't spend $40M. I'd be curious to see what teams spent what after subtracting what came off the books. My guess is, we'd still be one of the biggest net plus spenders, last winter. Some teams blew us away, but many more teams went very cheap, this year. We lost JBJ's $11M and some of Beni's contract, but not all. We cut some salary at last year's trade deadline, but I think JBJ and Beni were the only significant subtractions- maybe totally about $15M. If you count Kike's second year and Sawamura's 2nd and third year cost, we are still near $35M in total net spending.

Excellent point, and when you watch guys like Archer and Snell go to other teams and basically suck, it indicates, he is doing something other managers are not. I'd be fine with him winning or the guy from Seattle, but to me Cora is a genius and deserves the award. We were God awful, last year, and not the great in 2019. On paper, we did not look all that good, this year. Many felt we'd have a losing record- even several Sox posters.

I totally get your point and agree, but the counterpoint is valid, too. How many teams spent as much as us, last winter? It does not seem like much, because we had to spread it out to fill the massive holes deep into our 40 man roster, but we spent about $40M. That is big market spending- just spread out. $8.9M for Ottavino via trade (not a FA) $10M Richards (counting the 2022 buyout of $1.5M) $7M x 2 Kike $5M Perez (counting the $500K buyout) $3.1M Renfroe $3.0M Marwin $1.5M Sawamura $1.0M Santana

I don't live in New England, so I'm out of the media loop. I was thinking there was some exception for an injury, but that does not apply to players added after August 31st.

I was asking about health not telling. Oh, and I meant to ask about Taylor. I was wondering why Davis would be left off Max's list when he's done better than 4-5 pitchers on the list. Bazardo would be a big reach. Vaaldez had that big implosion game (or two) that totally messed up his numbers, but he's been AWOL since Sep 5th. I doubt he's an option. I'd go with these starters- in this order of confidence: 1) Eovaldi 2) ERod 3) Houck (could be used as a closer) 4) Sale 5) Pivetta (could be used in relief) Pen (in order of confidence in high leverage) Note: the pen is the one area I give serious credence to the recency bias effect. 1) Whitlock (Houck, if not starting) 2) Brasier 3) Robles 4) Sawamura 5) Davis 6) Ottavino 7) DHern 8) Barnes 9) Perez 10) Richards If Taylor is healthy, I'd slot him #4.

We missed by what 2 days? I think we got him on Sept 1 or 2nd, right? What a shame!

That's exactly how I felt. The strong wrists and off-the-charts "twitch reflexes" make his skill a unique one that cannot just be simply grouped in to past "small players" that fizzled out quickly. I was a big supporter of bringing back Betts at nearly any cost, but I think we made out fine.

The budget is for GM of the year. The Rays had a better roster than ours, and everybody knew it. I'm not saying Cash does not deserve the award or some votes, but he had a damn good roster, despite the injuries to Glasnow and others. BTW, it's not just as simple as adding up the dollars. Some of our dollars are going to players not even on our roster, so what good is that salary to Cora?

Yes, so they should just have a team award called "Most Exceeded Expectations."

Who do you replace them with? Bazardo, Valdez and Davis? (Are they all healthy?) Too bad we lost Rios. He did okay.

Pivetta had only started 2 games for us in 2020 (none for Philly), so I kinda view him as a new addition to the 2022 team and staff. We also had no ERod or Sale in 2020. This is part of the reason we were able to dump many pitchers from 2020 and only added Richards, Whiltock and Sawamura (+Andriese) over the winter.

With a day off, one game, day off, 2 games, day off, 2 games, day off, one game, I'm not sure why 13 pitchers are needed, but my guess is that is what will happen. Is Davis still on the IL? I'd prefer him to Perez. Is Iggy ineligible? Even with an injury to someone?

Here are the Jays free agents to be and their 2021 salary: $18M Semien (724 PAs/ .873 OPS/ 45 HRs) $9.5 C Dickerson $8.0 R Ray (32 starts 2,84 ERA) $5.5 K Yates $5.2 S Matz (29 starts 3.82 ERA) $3.5M J Soria $1.75 D Phelps $1.5M J Dyson

I would not either, but it is still a big loss from the 2021 ledger.

Big loss, if Semien bolts. Ray, too.

This obsession cannot be healthy.

Any news on JD's ankle?

Exactly. Is there anyone with Earl's fire in MLB, today?

Fine. Lets move on.

I was angry, too. I never even hinted at the anger not being justified. I'm talking about totally, 100% giving up on us having any chance at making the playoffs. Look, I've admitted I was wrong in expecting a few poster to address those comments they made out of anger and frustration. I'm not asking anyone to own up. I was wrong. I made a mistake to ask. I was wrong. It was a mistake to expect it. I was wrong. Can we move on?

Eovaldi is the clear cut best starter we could have starting vs the Yanks in an elimination game. While Cole seems like the clear best for the Yanks, we have gotten to him, this year by more than NYY has gotten to big Nate. Sox vs Cole in 2021: 5IP 8H 5ER 2BB 6K 6IP 5H 1ER 2BB 11K 5IP 6H 3ER 2BB 8K 6IP 5H 3ER 3BB 6K Total: 4.91 ERA (6.19 at Fenway) 1.500 WHIP (1.625 at Fenway) .852 OPS Against (.964 at Fenway) Eovaldi 3.71 ERA 1.235 WHIP .744 OPS Against Of course, past or recent past performance is not always an indicator of what will happen going forward, but I feel good about this match up. It's not going to be a cakewalk, but we have a legit shot at a win.

You seemed to really hold the cheating against him, and I misread that as hate or an intense dislike. You have also said we should fire him. Do you still think that way?

It feels like we lost at least 10 games because of our poor D, but 97 is probably right.

We had a lot of question marks, but so did just about every team, except maybe 3-4. Sure, we got a big season from Eovaldi, and Sale did well upon his return, but the rest of our starters barely met expectations, at best. Our pen did about as expected, although not evenly during the year. Whitlock surprised, but others underperformed. Vaz hit about 140 points less than his previous 2 year average. Bogey declined while in prime. Devers did very well, but not a career year as he might have been expected to have at his age. JD followed a normal bell curve decline for his age. Renfroe surprised- Verdugo under-performed. Kike did well, which I expected, but many did not. Dalbec declined from 2020, but had a solid year. 2B was a position in flux, all year. We got less than nothing from Cordero, Marwin, Santana, Duran and others. All-in-all, it looks like our players did about as expected- some better- some worse. Cora made a big difference. Bloom's mid-season additions made a big difference, despite the early struggles and harsh criticisms from fans and the media. Knowing what we know now, and taking into account the 41-39 record to end the season, if we ran back the season, with the team we have right now (no Marwin,Cordero, Andriese...), how many wins would you project? (Assuming Schwarber, Sale, Houck and others for the whole season)

I'm not owed anything. I said I was more or less misguided for expecting others to own up.