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That had to be one of the dumbest decisions ever made in MLB history.

I totally agree. He's up there on my next-to-be DFA'd list.

Marlins chairman and principal owner Bruce Sherman issued his own statement on the severing of the relationship: “The Miami Marlins and Derek Jeter announced today that they have agreed to officially end their relationship. The Marlins thank Derek for his many contributions and wish him luck in his future endeavors. We have a deep bench of talent that will oversee both the business and baseball decisions while we work to identify a new CEO to lead our franchise. The ownership group is committed to keep investing in the future of the franchise — and we are determined to build a team that will return to the postseason and excite Marlins fans and the local community.”

There’s been a seismic shift in Marlins leadership, as Derek Jeter announced today that he is leaving the organization and will no longer serve as an executive or a shareholder with the club. Jeter’s statement reads as follows: “Today I am announcing that the Miami Marlins and I are officially ending our relationship and I will no longer serve as CEO nor as a shareholder in the Club. We had a vision five years ago to turn the Marlins franchise around, and as CEO, I have been proud to put my name and reputation on the line to make our plan a reality. Through hard work, trust and accountability, we transformed every aspect of the franchise, reshaping the workforce, and developing a long-term strategic plan for success. That said, the vision for the future of the franchise is different than the one I signed up to lead. Now is the right time for me to step aside as a new season begins. My family and I would like to thank our incredible staff, Marlins fans, Marlins players and the greater Miami community for welcoming us with open arms and making us feel at home. The organization is stronger today than it was five years ago, and I am thankful and grateful to have been a part of this team.” -MLBTR

I don't really mind a shortened season, but all teams must play the same amount of games. No more losing the playoffs to the Tigers by a half game, ever again!

SS. My finger slipped.

It's even worse for his career! -20.5 in 187 innings at 2B He is a plus, elsewhere: +18.4 at 3B (35 innings) +17.2 at SS (112 innings), which is where he may be most needed.

The owners are barely meeting inflationary raises- essentially asking the players to be worse off than before.

The owners have proposed a significant raise to the min salary- I think $725K flat across every season, then I think they offered $10K raises per yr. That's still not enough, but it seems like that salary will rise, this time.

According to fangraphs, he has 16 assists and 6 throwing errors. He had an ARM rating of +1.9. He had 6 fielding errors for a -3.0 error rate. His range was -1.4, giving him an overall score of -2.1 UZR/150. He had a -1 DRS. He wasn't the worst defender on the team. 50+ innings by positions: -28.8 Duran CF -22.8 Dalbec 3B -18.8 Arauz 2B -14.1 Santana 1B -13.2 Verdugo CF -10.9 Shaw 1B -10.7 JD RF -7.6 Schwarber 1B -5.8 Marwin 1B -4.3 Devers 3B -4.0 Marwin SS -3.9 Dalbec 1B -2.1 Renfroe RF -1.3 Kike 2B -1.1 Schwarber LF

I don't recall an excessive amount of missed cutoff men on Renfroe throws, but he did have some. He had 12 errors. I think some were with the glove, and some were just wild throws to the base he was throwing to. As for his streaky hitting, he did suck in April, but he hit .892 from May 1st to Sept 8th. The team did go 17-10 in April, while he sucked at the plate, and they went 63-52 during his hot streak.

I'm still not optimistic... https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/02/owners-players-meet-for-extended-negotiating-session-more-talks-planned-for-monday.html

Yes, and the "floor" would be a way to force lower spending teams to pay players or lose out on revenue sharing or pay fines.

I would think the players would be okay with heavy taxes on teams going over the luxury tax limit and a lower limit than they are asking for now, if a decent floor level was established that would add a lot of player salary spending from the bottom end. The problem is, the lower spending teams seem to be running the owner's side of the negotiations.

...all the way to the early 70's.

While the players seem to be backing off their original asks- some by more than 50%, the owners dick around with a $1M increase to one year of the lux tax limit. The owners are digging in to a point where the players will be walking away from the table, very soon. Not looking good! https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/02/despite-report-no-deal-close-between-mlb-mlbpa.html

If the smaller market teams used the lux tax money to spend on increasing their player salary budget, I might have some sympathy, but they just pocket it as increased profits. Time to initiate a floor limit.

Seems like someone Yawkey would have wanted.

My guess is Houck wants to start, too. That's where the money and glory are. Here is soxprospects.com 2023 projections (no moves made): Sale, Paxton, Whitlock, Pivetta, Bello/Seabold/Groome Houck, Barnes, Brasier, Taylor, DHern, Valdez, Winckowski/Feltman/Bazardo/Davis Wong & R Hernandez Casas Downs Bogey Devers Verdugo Duran JBJ Dalbec Bench: Arroyo, Arauz, Cannon, Cordero, Rosario If Bogey is gone, I assume Arroyo at 2B & Downs at SS. This is the foundation. Certainly additions would be made.

Maybe not even then, but going to free agency risks a lot.

Who put 2023?

A lot to digest here, Nick, but hey, what else can we do? JBJ's final option year is $12M mutual option with a whopping $8M buyout, so I seriously doubt we pay that $8M for him not to play vs $12M for him to play- a $4M net. I'll go piece-by-piece: Not sure what kind of money Xander and Devers are looking...... Per Cot's....selected final year contracts $22.0M JD $16.0M David Price $12.0M JBJ $07.0M Vaz $07.0M Wacha $05.0M Hill $01.5M Sawamura $70.5M Total coming off 2023 payroll (Moon, any 'penalty' for options not picked up ie JBJ as an example will be charged off to 2022 season). I have to think Bogey will get $28M x 7, minimum- more likely $30+M x 8+. Devers is harder to call, since he'll have one arb left after this year. Both are not great defenders, but their bats will be expensive. I think Devers might get $30M x 9 after 2023. (Not adjusting for inflation) Maybe $32M x 10. He'll be 27 in 2 years. Bogey will be 30 in 1 year. We will need a catcher, DH, outfield depth, three starters to be replaced (Eovaldi, Wacha and Hill). DH might come from Dalbec, if Casas wins the 1B job by 2023. I guess Dalbec could play 3B, if we don't keep Devers or trade him before losing him. I think we'll extend Eovaldi, his current tax payroll is $17M, so that may go up to say $22M, or delta of $5M, leaves us with $65M. I'm not sure we keep Eovaldi. He'll be 33 in a year. Maybe on a 2-3 year deal, but he will seek longer terms. I will assume that Paxton will return 100% heathy for 2023, thus only one starter needs to be replaced.....this is the critical area, someone within the organization has to step up and take a starter's role, and I don't think it's asking too much...no additional money needed I'm pretty sure we add a big named starter, but this would be an alternative 1. Sale 2. Paxton 3. Pivetta 4. Houck 5. Whitlock We'd need massive pen building. We'll need a DH, best case scenario is for Casas and Dalbec to step in to play 1B/DH. We can spend $10M for a OF/1B/DH, leaving us with $55M. Yes, or someone else steps in, like Yorke or Jordan, but both are just 19, now. We can budget for $5M for Vaz replacement...doable.' To get a good catcher, it will likely cost more. Many of my proposed trades on BTV involve acquiring a young and promising catcher. Thus we have a war chest of $50M+ to keep Xander in Boston (I doubt we'll pay $10M, more likely $25M (delta of $5) and couple of more years added). It's hard to imagine us letting Betts & Bogey go, but to me, if it comes down to Bogey vs Devers, I'm firmly on the Devers Forevers bandwagon. I think we'll keep Kike, it may cost us say $12.5M for 2 years, delta of another $5M, we still have $40M+ for Devers' extension. I hope we keep him, too, but he may be more costly than $13M per year. Based on Dever's expected pay of $11M for 2022 season, even at $30M extension, that's delta of say $20M. Gotta keep him! Sox still has $20M+ to pay for arbitration raises for 2023 and some bullpen additions. Sounds about what will be needed. Key will be a starting pitcher or two emerging within the system and both Casas and Dalbec becoming a 'major' league talent. We have extended Kike for additional $5M, acquired a catcher for $5M, acquired outfielder/1B/DH veteran for $10M, Eovaldi extended for additional $5M, Xander extended at $25M and Devers signed to a $30M contract. I doubt Sale opts out, just to cover all the basis. Bloom's biggest signing maybe Devers. I'm sure Bloom is reading this as I type. Keeping both Bogey and Devers will almost certainly restrict what we can spend on pitching for the next 7-9 years. For this reason, we may not keep both. That begs the question on who we trade rather than get nothing for them but a draft pick. This is the big choice.

Good one!

12:22, right?

Exactly. What puzzles me even more is that we did not want to pay him what MIL ended up offering him. Then, after his worst season ever, suddenly he's worth it. Looking at the contract makes it look even worse: The Brewers paid just $6.5M for 2021. When you count the $8M buy out, his remaining salary is... $17.5M/1 (turning down the 2023 option) or $21.5M/2 (assuming they take the $12M 2023 option) I know Renfroe was due to et arb raises, but we didn't have to go to arb with him- like the Rays did after 2020. The fact that he hits lefty, like Verdugo and Duran makes it look like, dare I say again, a real "head-scratcher."