moonslav59

Well, I think the idea was that defense helps every pitcher. The trade was not about offense.

You just figured this out? Geeesh. Every single poster her has said the deal sucked. It took you the longest! LOL

This is the same guy who said we are delusional for suggesting a Casas trade for an ace.

Maybe. Maybe a lot was discussed, and they came to a consensus, and that is what he spoke of- not his or others' personal positions or beliefs. Who knows. He's part of management: they say what needs to be said.

Don't count your chickens before the blind squirrel finds the broken clock.

I'm 100% certain that after the first 5 games, our next manager will be hearing the same things every past manager has heard, even if we are 5-0!

They get some by trading stars before they reach 2nd or 3rd year arbs. Back when Certificates of Deposit were a big thing, I remember buying $5,000 in a CD every month and put them on auto roll-over. That way, every month, if I needed it, I'd have one maturing with interest. This is how the Rays do it, in part. They buy a CD (trade a star) and wait for it to mature, but when you do it every month (year in baseball), you end up having one maturing everytime you buy (trade) one. Of course, they are near the top in pitcher development and scouting other team's fringe or journeymen players that are nearing their career years or are a teak away from having a 2-3 year stretch of plus ball-playing. None of this goes against a big spending team's goals and priorities, but it takes discipline and an understanding fanbase that won't boycott the team after trading a star. You have to begin that cycle somewhere, and the getting started part is the hardest. This past deadline was the perfect chance to start that ball rolling, and Bloom either chickened out or was told not to trade any stars or semi-stars, but Vaz.

I'd put Reynolds in RF and keep Kike in CF. 3 years of Reynolds and 4 from a top closer is worth it, to me. I love Rafaela and also think Casas can become our 1B of the future, but PIT will not hand these guys away. (Houck may be broken.) Also, Casas is not a "highly regarded defender.)

Bring up E Valdez and let him DH.

Fenway has very uncomfortable seats with some not even facing the mound. I got a stiff neck one game by having to crank my neck in one direction for 4 hours. It's a beautiful park, but my neck votes for the Trop.

The season's glaring weakness. When we do get hits w RISP, we often don't score.

Dalbec and Seabold are sure making a case for being career AAAA players. Abreu walked for his 105th time, tonight (3 BBs). Kavadas #99. Hamilton stole his 64th base. Drohan moving up the charts: 5 IP 3H 1ER 3BB 3K Bonaci now has 89 BBs & 87 Ks. Romero went 2-5 (.959) Meidroth 1-5 (.955) Wikelman 5 IP 3H 1ER 1BB 4K (2.65 ERA) should be in POR, next season.

Nope. I think you guys more than make up for any praise or non-bashing. He sure blew all his pen moves, tonight.

How's this for a blockbuster (BTV accepted): 39.7 Casas 15.1 Rafaela 12.1 Yorke 6.6 Wikleman 3.3 Murphy 3.3 Winckowski To PIT for 51.5 Reynolds (3 yrs remaining) 23.4 Bednar (4 yrs)

Indeed, and they aren't afraid of locking up their younger talent, either.

Lots of highlights, tonight. At least we are helping the Rays chances of catching the Yanks.

From soxprospects,com... The Red Sox completed their trade with the White Sox where they acquired catcher Reese McGuire for a PTBNL and left-hander Jake Diekman. Taylor Broadway has been announced as the player to be named. Broadway is a 26-year-old right-handed reliever who made 40 appearances in the White Sox system this year. A majority of that came in Double-A, where he posted a 4.74 ERA in 49 1/3 innings. His strikeouts numbers were extremely impressive, punching out 74 hitters with just 14 walks. He was taken in the sixth round by Chicago last year out of Mississippi and has reported to the Sea Dogs.

Pivetta tries to right the ship and himself vs Ole Sox Jeffrey Springs. Line-up 1. Kike SS 2. Pham LF 3. Dugo RF 4. Story 2B 5. JD DH 6. Arroyo 3B 7. Ref CF 8. Casas 1B 9. Wong C

Wacha has had other very good year- yes, most were many years ago, but these guys believe in themselves. Think of what he might make, if he has 2 really good years in a row. I get your point, and you may be right, but many players will take $18M/1 over $40M 3. Yes, he's not young, but he's not 35, either. I think he takes the $18M QO.

If the Sox are counting on Sale AND Paxton, we are doomed. I'm thinking, if they plan on both as one 2/3 Starter type, that might be too much to ask, as well, but I think that has to be how they have to see it.

I'd offer 1 to Wacha and not Nate.

1. 1 year deals are usually overpays. 2. 2024 will be year 3 of the lux tax, so 1 year deals would facilitate a reset 3. Both have a serious chance at earning $18M in 2023. (I's say close to more than 50%.)

I think both would take a QO. I think Wacha would have to think he can make $50M/3 to turn down $18M/1. Does he get that?

I don't disagree. I'm just saying we are not adding 3 SP'er, this winter (including QOs taken.)

I don't disagree, but even if you built 30 brand new stadiums, one would be rated worst and second worst, but it doesn't mean it's horrible. That's my point. Now, I was there a long time ago, too, so there's that.