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I didn't miss anything. Adding two solid RP'ers is NOT "pretty much the same." It's two more than we had this year. (Two out of the six slots I think are our highest priority.) One could be a closer, but I would be fine with 2 solid set-up men and using Whitlock and Houck as Relief aces or choosing one to be the traditional closer. That makes Schreiber the 5th best RP'er in the pen and maybe Barnes as the 6th best. I'm also counting on better health from Houck & Whitlock and defined roles, but I did not think I has to mention that.
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I hope Brainer Bonaci makes the bigs, someday.
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9/27 O's @ SOX 7:10PM
moonslav59 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Casas is doing a good job at convincing me he is "for real." I get the low BA is not too pretty, but he's walking a lot and has hit some bombs. -
To me, the minimum additions we can get by with, this winter, is 6. I'd like to see 7 or 8, but if we get less to improve the quality (over quantity), I'd be fine. SS Ace Solid RP Solid SP Solid RP RF ______________________ ?7? RF/DH or 1B/DH or someone like Mancini, who can play 1B, corner OF & DH. ?8? Sp/RP depending on our plans for Whitlock & Houck (and their health outlook) To get quality players and re-set the tax, we will likely have to trade for one or two of these slots.
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The 13 BBs are pretty impressive, too.
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Where did I even come close to saying I want to bring back the same pen? I said I think WE NEED 2 SOLID RP'ers! I said I think we need a SS and an ACE more than pen help. (I changed the font, color and underlined it, so you wouldn't miss it. We should have enough resources to trade for an ace and sign a SS, RF'er and 2 solid pen arms. I've listed this as my foundation plan numerous times.
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I'd rather they just go to 12 innings, if needed, and then call it a tie.
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9/27 O's @ SOX 7:10PM
moonslav59 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
The Sox win, tonight. Bet the house. -
I agree. The trend is towards strong and much deeper pens. Almost every team used the added 26th man on the pitching staff, too. I've been saying we need 2 solid pen arms, but my point is that I like what we have in the pen, right now (assuming they come back healthy) more than the rotation. We need both, badly.
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One could have said, and did say, the same about 2021.
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It's not impossible to win without a strong rotation, but I've also seen some crappy pen teams win, too. I like Whit, Houck, Schreiber, Barnes, Taylor, Crawford and Kelly/German/Wink/Bazardo better than... Sale/Paxton/Pivetta/Bello and ______.
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It won't matter how good our pen is, if we start the year with these guys in the 1 to 5 slots: 1. Sale 2. Paxton 3. Pivetta 4. Bello 5. Crawford (depth: Wink, Seabold and maybe Mata, TWard or Walter by mid-season)
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They are now 4-0 and 7th or 8th ranked.
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I'm just quibbling about the term short-changed. Would Yankee fans really get irate, if the Met's offered him $400M/9, and Cashman wouldn't go higher? If I were a Yankee fan, I'd be more upset, if we countered with $405M/9. It would mean way less helping players for 9 years.
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I don't know what the rules are about what it takes to burn an option. I don't think there is any sort of "protection." Some players meet the requirement for using up an option- some don't. I don't think one quick call-up counts as using up an option, but maybe someone can explain how it works. Either way, if Dalbec had 2 options, before this year, he should still have one, next year. Cordero may be done.
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Without an ace and another solid SP'er, we won't need a pen. There will be few(er) high leverage situations after the 5th.
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We have no reliable ace in our system, either. While Whitlock and/or Houck may not seem like reliable closers, they are closer to one than Pivetta is to an ace.
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I should be more careful or specific in my use of terminology. My bad. German may end up as a 7th or 8th inning RP'er, but he needs to earn that.
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I'm not saying we don't need pen help. I'm just saying getting a solid SP'er is the number 1 priority- maybe number 2 to bringing Bogey back or replacing him without a major downgrade. The pen is #3, in my book. That's not downplaying that need. It's more about highlighting just how desperate we are to add an ace and a SS for 2023. I know counting on Schreiber is very risky, but so is counting on this rotation: Sale Paxton Pivetta Bello Crawford I see that as worse than this: Whitlock Houck Schreiber (Crawford?) Barnes Taylor Kelly/German/Danish/Bazardo/Brasier They both are high need areas. I was only responding to the portion of the position that said the pen was #1. You, yourself have said taking care of the Bogey (or SS decision) is the first priority, so I think we are in agreement- or close to one.
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I don't know the reason for demotion or the rules on burning options. He was also injured.
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9/26 O's @ SOX
moonslav59 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
You miscalculated our ability to score more runs when allowing 14. -
If he's out of options, I'd try to trade Franchy or sneak him through waivers. If someone claims him, no big loss, IMO. soxprospects.com has Cordero with 1 option remaining and Dalbec with 2. Here is what is listed under "Burned Options:" The following players have been optioned in 2022 but have not yet burned their 2022 option Franchy Cordero Bobby Dalbec Hirokazu Sawumora
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With no Wacha, Nate of Hill, is the pen really a higher priority than the rotation, especially if Houck and Whitlock are locked into pen-only roles? (We only lose Strahm from the pen- the rest are addition by subtraction.)
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I hope at him!
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Even if we add 2 pen arms AND keep Whitlock and Houck in the pen, I still think German may win the last spot in the 8 man pen: 1. Whitlock 1A. Houck 3. Addition 4. Addition 5. Schreiber 6. Barnes (could lose spot in ST'ing) 7. Crawford (not a lock) 8. One from Taylor, Kelly, German, Danish, Bazardo or Brasier. This assumes no injuries by opening day.
