moonslav59
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I know there were some posters who mentioned the idea that he could be non-tendered, but I don't recall anyone saying he should or will be. Several felt it a good idea to trade him, but nobody liked the JBJ trade, except maybe Kimmi.
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True, and we all know the defense is why we traded him- not the money.
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Renfroe had 2 arb years left when we traded him. How would it make sense to overpay him for 2 years? Also, who were the people saying Renfroe was not worth the $7M arb? I don't recall any. I do remember people saying we need to subtract that $7.6M from JBJ's money, but I don't remember anyone saying he wasnt worth $7M.
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The only way anyone takes Yelich is with a major chunk of change and or a solid SP attached.
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Does that make for 5 dumb GMs for acquiring him or letting him go?
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We'd be lucky to get Urquidy or Neris... not both. Dugo is no slouch.
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It got me thinking maybe even Dugo for Urquidy & Neris.
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Very true, and this is also a glaring example on what some GMs value in their catchers. Contreras is viewed as a major FA catching option, and yet he would have been the back-up to Maldonado and his .586 OPS since 2021, as was Vaz after he was traded for.
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Word was that the higher ups asked Dusty about the trade, and he felt there would be clubhouse issues over Contreras taking a back-up role to Maldanado. I'm not sure why that would sour Crane against Click, but that's the word, here.
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You play too much fantasy sports.
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Apparently, it was the nixed Contreras trade that ruffled feathers.
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Not unless you have one.
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I just can't even think about wanting to believe, anymore.
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I could be wrong, but I think the Astros went from late April to late August and for part of September with a 6 man rotation. Verlander, Valdez, Garcia, Odorizzi, Javier & Urquidy. When they traded Odorizzi, McCullers returned from injury to take the 6th slot. I think Odorizzi missed a few starts in the middle, and they went with 5 for a stretch, but then later Hunter Brown got a couple starts that made a 7 man rotation for 2 cycles in September. Looking at the GS numbers, Valdez had 31, which you can't get on a true 6 man rotation for a big chunk of the season, so maybe I'm wrong, 31 Valdez 28 Verlander 28 Urquidy 28 Garcia 25 Javier 12 Odorizzi 8 McCullers 2 Brown Javier was in the pen for 5 games, but everyone else, except Brown were pretty much starters. I think Ordorizzi & McCullers were the only guys missing time with injury. You'd expect 32-33 starts from Valdez, Verlander, Garcia and Urquidy had there been a strict 5 man all year.
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I think the Sox expect more than 33 total starts from Sale & Paxton combined- like it or not/ believe it or not. Bello, Whitlock and Pivetta fill 3 more. I think they view Crawford, Winckowski, Seabold, Mata, Walter, Ward and maybe even Houck back to the rotation as better than Cooke & Silva. I'm not agreeing with this view, but the depth looks better than the last few years.
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Personally, they all will be significant overpays. It's really more about picking your poison or the least likely to be poison. I lean towards the shorter deals on these type signings.
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I think the Astros did, but not for too long, and they had 7 quality SP'ers on their roster, even after trading Odorizzi.
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I doubt we go 6 man, but with the recent namby-pamby treatment of starters, maybe that is the next trend. I'm all for beefing up the rotation. I'd add two in a heartbeat. I just don't think the Sox will.
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It must have sucked to finally get some real competition.
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All good points, but I think the 5 straight in the last 5 years makes him more predictable on offense, until age kicks in, which will be sooner with Bogey. I'd much prefer Correa, but I'm pointing out his more inconsistent offense and injury history as 2 things that worry me about selecting him to be our biggest "large and long contract" since Price... maybe ever.
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The no QO makes Taillon an obvious Sox target. I see this: Taillon + Nate's draft pick > Nate and no extra draft pick. I get your point about both, and if it would force Whitlock back to the pen, we'd get 3 pluses out of signing both. I'm not sure they want 2 SP'ers, though. I think they really like Bello and Whitlock as our 3-4's and Pivetta as our 5. Count Sale & Paxton as one, between them- I know, that's a stretch too- and it looks like we will add just 1 SP. We also have Crawford, Wink, Mata, Walter and maybe TWard as starter depth.
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5.5-7.5 fWAR
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Good thing that happens so rarely, or else you'd b e here all day.
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I'm really optimistic about seeing a major improvement in 2023. $90M on 7-9 slots is still better than $40M on 12 slots, but I doubt we add more than 6 or 7 new players to the roster we have now.
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I certainly think Correa is a better all around SS, even if you factor in a little more lost time for injuries. How much better is the question, and I agree, the differential between the two contracts will be what determines which one we like better. To me, Correa being 2 years younger is huge, so I'm looking at AAV and years- not total money given. I'd give Correa $248M/8 ($31M x 8) over giving Bogey $168M/6 ($28M x 6), even though the total dollars are $80M more to Correa. The AAV is close enough to reflect Correa is better and both contracts end at the same ages, but we get 2 more years of prime from Correa. That, to me, is the kicker.
