moonslav59
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Agreed. Manny was "da man!"
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The Manny contract, which came with the team sold to JH was likely the best "large and long" deal the teams of the 2000's had. (Papi's 4 year deal is not really "long," and even that great deal that lead to 2 rings, ended very bitterly. Take away the 4 year deals and how many deals were good to great start to finish? How many were good for more than half the years? Had AGon stayed with us and put up the same numbers, would that contract be called a good one? While many of these deals were essential pieces to ring years, and that is a huge plus, not many really could be called clear winning deals. One might begin to understand why JH is reluctant about repeating the same mistakes over and over. Great business men are often known for not doing just that. They learn from their mistakes and try hard not to repeat them. Had we extended Lester, large and long, that would have been in the "win column." Had we extended Jake, ERod and some others, not at all.
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Losing Story really sucks. We were already looking at the need for just about everything to go right, and one of the biggest needed turn arounds is now out for maybe the whole season. Plus, our weakest area was middle infield, before he went down. Looks like an extended snake bite from 2022.
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Sox Largest Contracts Under Henry (Manny was signed before JH to $160M/8) $217M/7 Price $154M/7 Agon $145M/5 Sale $142M/7 Crawford $140M/6 Story $120M/6 Bogey (opt out after $60M/3) $110M/5 JD $110M/8 Pedroia $95M/5 Sandoval $90M/5 Yoshida (plus $15M posting fee) $88M/4 HRam $82.5/4 Porcello $82.5/5 Lackey $72.5/7 Castillo $70M/5 JD Drew $68M/5 Beckett $68M/4 Eovaldi $63M Moncada (signing bonus + tax) $52M/6 Dice-K (+$52M posting fee) $52M/4 Ortiz Not a very impressive list.
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Pedro did start his career with the Sox starting 33, 29 and 29 games, then, after 18 starts in 2001, he started 30, 29 and 33 games to end his time in Boston. 7 seasons with 6 being 29 or more starts. Yes, he often missed a few starts, but I don't ever think of him as being an injury risk or injury prone player with the Sox. The list is pretty telling, and I can certainly un derstand why JH might shy away from more big deals. Now, the Story mess.
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$60M was a great deal. The favor done for him in 2008 was well worth it.
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BTV rates the trade as 4.9 Rojas for 7.0 Amaya A comparative Sox return might have had to be... 8.0 Yorke 6.7 Verdugo 6.5 Anthony 6.5 Coffey 5.9 Duran 5.6 Lugo 5.6 Walter 5.0 Jordan 5.0 Paulino
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Just do what it takes. 2 is better than 3, but if it takes 3, do it. A two year deal with a club option for the 3rd year and moderate buyout should get it done. Leave out any no trade clause.
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I've suggested a few trades for Michael A Taylor on BTV. He should not cost much in return.
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Andrus probably wants 3 years. With all our injuries, maybe getting him for 3 would not be 2 years too long.
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Doubling and tripling down on this is just digging your hole deeper. I predicted you deny saying an exact quotation I posted from you, and sure enough... If this all only means something to me, why keep the ball rolling? Just put me on ignore, or better yet, just say things you actually mean or own up when you say things you don't mean. Trying to change the meanings of words is not a winning strategy.
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I guess we just need to really suck to have fire sale.
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Devers signs 11 year $331 million extension
moonslav59 replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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That was one guy I thought would be a nice one year bridge to Mayer. Good defense (second at SS w the Fielding Bible.) Oh well.
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So, exactly as I predicted. You say "for you to mention notin..." then deny you said "for you to mention notin..." It's not analyzing or interpreting. It's what words mean. It's not what I think it means. It what it really means. To think you can't even admit a simple thing like this, speaks volumes, and yes, sad but true. We are on that.
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I love hearing this from the guy who is like Oh for the last 5 Sox season projections.
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The Diekman situation was the opposite of the Renfroe one. Good to sign renfroe- bad to trade him. Diekman: bad to sign him- good to trade him. I see it this way: we were not bringing Vaz back, and nobody wanted Diekman back, so basically, we got McGuire, E Valdez and W Abrue for Vaz and Diekman. I'm counting this as a likely plus-plus. The Phan and Hosmer deals? Meh, although we have Ferguson and Rosier, instead of guy we'd likely have lost on Rule 5: Groome.
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I might as well just claim I never said Red "hated Cora." It would make winning debates so much easier to just deny what was clearly written.
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You crack me up! You did not write this? ...and for you to mention Notin...
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The Athletics have agreed to a one-year contract with right-hander Shintaro Fujinami, reports ESPN’s Jeff Passan.
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Nelson Cruz gets $1M to play for the Padres. Seems like a very low risk signing.
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I did not mention notin- yet another lie and misrepresentation of my words, but somehow you will now say "I never said you said you mentioned Notin."
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If you are talking about me, the 5 year plan is up in 2024. (2020 to 2024) I had hopes we could be somewhat competitive, along the way, and 2021 probably gave me false hopes, but I do see our longer term chances as being way better than our longer term chances were in 2019 or 2020. I'm no expert on what is the best way to improve a team, but I think starting with a solid and deep farm should help. I'm not expert on judging how strong our farm is, but it appears to be much better than it looked in 2019 and 2020. I'm happy to see we might see 12-15 prospects or recent grads get a significant look, this year. That hasn't happened in a long time. I see it as a good sign, although some may now get chances they might not deserve, due to injuries happening before the season even starts. I might cry about that, at some point. I have "cried" about not improving the farm and resetting the tax, last deadline. I might be the top crier on that topic, although I do have some company.
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Vaz is so clutch, he has an astounding .016 higher OPS Late & Close compared to his overall career OPS of .695. .711 Late & Close (.598 in 2022) .709 2 outs RISP (.734 in 2022) .709 High Leverage (.654 in 2022) .701 RISP .695 career overall (.714 in 2022) I'm going to call these his "untangibles," if it's okay with everyone.
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You mean intangibles, or am I digging to deep, again?
