You can't read. I have Renfroe listed as a head scratching bad trade.
AB did not do all that well after the trade and is not good, now. I said "you can call it a loss or incomplete."
Rosier is a better prospect than Groom, right now, but call that one minor or a push- fine.
Try getting your reading comprehension and facts in check, first,
2020 (only 4 rounds)
Yorke 17
Jordan 89
Wu-Yelland 118
Drohan 148
2021
Mayer 4
Fabian 40- no sign
McDonough 75
E-R-C 105
Hickey 136
(Dobbins 226, Kavadas 316, Guerrero 496)
2021
Romero 24
CCoffye 41
Anthony 79
Rogers 99
Meidroth 129
Dean 159
(Brannom 279, ICoffey 309)
2023
Teel 14
Zanetello 50
Anderson 83
Duffy 115
Campbell 132
I see more than 2 good picks per year on average.
Exactly. A point, no matter how many times repeated, is not understood by a select few posters, here.
Also, the hit rate on drafting everyday players vs pitchers on any picks outside the top 10.
I don't think (or I hope) we never see Whitlock start again, unless as an opener.
SP1 FA or trade
SP2 FA or trade
SP3 Bello
SP4 Houck
SP5 Pivetta/Crawford
Trade Mata & Dalbec
Yes, a very notable difference.
I do think the Duvall signing was a good one. A kind of freakish injury hurt.
One point about the "what if" in 2020 for Verdugo:
2023:
2.2 first half
0.4 second half
The sweep at HOU was impressive. The 5-1 vs DET pretty good.
Certainly, if trends continue, it will be "easy," but one thing about this year is trends are ever-changing.
I don't either, but if they told him, "Look, we will not be re-signing you, this fall, so would you like to be traded to a contender and take away your QO status," he may have said okay.
Signing Montgomery, Lugo and maybe Duvall and a decent LH'd RP'er should make us noticeably better, but IMO, not by enough to make us near a top contender status.
Snell, Monty, Duvall and LRP, more so.
I'd love to see Yamamoto, Snell & Duvall.
See my list with Bloom guys highlighted in red. (Wink & Wong did not make the list.)
Yes, a lot of mediocrity and slightly better, but no real major find or get.
Perhaps Story could have been without injury. Perhaps Duvall.
Kike was one and done.
Hill did fine, but he doesn't jump out at us.
The whole quantity vs quality thing- I agree. It's not just 2023, either. I try to convince myself this is all part of a plan- I like plans- to build the foundation, but I'm nos so sure, anymore.
2020-2023 highest fWARs on Sox
6.0 Bogey '22
4.8 Devers '22
4.3 Bogey '21
4.2 Devers '21
4.0 Kike '21
2.8 JD '21
2.6 Devers '23 and counting
2.6 Verdugo '23 and counting
2.4 Story '22 in just over half a season
2.3 Duran '23 in 102 gms
2.2 Duvall '23 in less than half a season
2.2 Renfroe '21
1.9 Verdugo '21
1.9 Verdugo '20 in short season
1.7 Vaz '22 in 84 gms
1.7 Casas '23
1.7 Turner '23 and counting
Pitching
5.7 Nate '21
3.9 ERod '21
2.3 Pivetta '21
2.3 Houck '21 (and people wonder why we won in '21!)
1.8 Sale '23
1.8 Hill '22
1.8 Schreiber '22
1.7 Bello '23 and counting
1.6 Whitlock another '21
1.6 Crawford '23 and counting
1.5 Wacha '22
1.5 Pivetta '22
1.4 Whitlock '22
1.3 Barnes '21
1.3 Bello '22
1.3 Martin '23
1.1 Jansen '23
1.1 Richards '21
1.1 Paxton '23 and counting (backwards?)
He'll be 31 years old in 2028. He'll be 36 in his last year of the deal.
With inflation the way it is, there is no telling what his value might be in 5, 7 or 8 years.
He's just now entering peak prime, although his numbers did not jump.
OPS+
134 in '21
142 in '22
125 in '23
Had we had just 2 from Nate, Wacha and Eflin, we'd be in the race, right now, so I don't think it's a great leap to think we can strike gold, this winter.
You are counting the trade and signing.
This is about just trades.
We were not extending Betts, so it's not like you can count that, anyway.
That's like saying the Sale trade sucked, when it was a great one. It was the extension that sucked.