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Casas would surely bring more in return. If packaged with another prospect or two, maybe we could even get an ace or ace in training. BTW, Casas did hit over .860 in AA and AAA. That's not like Dalbec's 1.000+ season, so far, but Dalbec has not always raked in te minors. Casas had 25 HRs and 64 XBHs in 688 PAs in the upper minors. (76Ks) Bobby D has a .949 AAA OPs (405 PAs) and .829 AA (563 PAs) He has hit way more HRs (56 in 968 PAs) but has 277 Ks, too. Assuming you trade Casas for something special, we'd go with: DH: Turner v L/ Yoshida v R 1B: Turner v R/ Dalbec v L LF: Yoshida v L, Duval v R CF: Duran v R/ Duval v L The thing is, I'd rather have Ref vs L.

Just barely plural on the years for the A's. 86-76 in 2021 (3rd place) 1st place 2020 97-65 in 2019 2nd place 97-65 in 2018 2nd place KC has been bad for a while... 81-81 in 2016 95-67 in 2015 WS CHAMPS

Good thing MN is a bad team, too. They will hand it back.

June 2nd .951 JD Martinez .765 Turner June 20th .872 JD Martinez (4-32 since June 10th) .813 Turner (13 for 36 since June 10th, not counting tonight) Turner is at .830 after 2 PAs, tonight.

He has, indeed, but also a deflected ball to Kike and a chopper to 3B to score a run.

I've given my opinion. I'll always love JD and respect what he did for us, but I think Turner will pass JD in OPS by season end, and he can play 1B and 3B. (BTW, I made this call when JD was in the mid .900's.)

Turner needs to start getting more loving around here. What he's doing is no fluke. The guy has been a hitter for a long time. 2014-2020: .886 OPS Per 650: .302 25 85 62 XBHs .382 OBP .503 SLG He had a rough start to '22, but came on strong. 2021-2023: (not counting tonight) .812 OPS Per 650 .278 23 95 57 XBHs .357 OBP .455 SLG Last 365 Days .874 OPS .384 OBP .490 SLG Per 650 .310 20 86 (4th highest BA in MLB)

Don't tell Cora this.

Valdez is a hope & prayer at 2B.

I understand the bind we have at SS. I'm not sure much is gained b y playing Arroyo at SS and Kike at 2B. Arroyo would probably get hurt at SS. Without knowing Reyes will go on the IL or not, makes the SS choice a lose-lose one. I don't blame Cora for playing Kike, tonight. If Ryes goes on the IL, I'd play Hamilton.

I've been one of Kike's biggest supporters and fans, especially as a CF'er, but he has hit poorly for over a year, and as a SS, he is a minus-minus.

I'm not sure how many teams can field a team with 9 players over a .710 OPS, including a catcher and all players with 70+ PAs: .761 C Wong .722 1B Casas .827 2B Duran (CF normally) or .715 Arroyo .715 SS Arroyo or .712 Reyes .787 3B Devers .867 LF Yoshida 1.006 CF Duvall or .827 Duran (see 2B) .836 RF Verdugo .813 DH Turner If .799 Refsnyder could play a middle IF slot, the bottom line could be raise.

The Sox have 6 players above .790, and none are Devers! 1.066 Duvall (76 PAs) .867 Yoshida .836 Verdugo .827 Duran .813 Turner .799 Refsnyder .787 Devers .761 Wong .722 Arroyo .712 Reyes (71 PAs) .684 Valdez .665 McGuire .644 Kike .515 Chang We have 9 pitchers with an ERA under 3.75 with 12+ IP, and none are named Sale, Whitlock, Houck and of course Kluber and Pivetta: 2.08 Martin 2.12 Schreiber (on IL) 2.34 Winckowski 2.53 Bernardino 3.04 Jansen 3.29 Garza (13 IP) 3.49 Bello 3.74 Crawford 4.38 Whitlock 4.58 Sale (60 day IL) 5.05 Houck (on IL) 5.11 Pivetta 5.85 Bleier (on IL) 6.11 Ort 7.04 Kluber 7.29 Brasier (DFA'd)

Kike has made a few good plays at SS, but he is nothing short of horrible on D, overall at SS. I've lost all faith in him as a SS, and as a batter, I'm almost there, too..

Well said, and I'll add that the other contending teams all have several weaknesses, like we do.

You really listed the 13 PA sample size of .490? The one reason I still have hopes in Dalbec is that he is a streaky hitter- sometimes long streaks of bad and one pretty long good one mixed in with some smaller ones. It's hard to know who the "real Dalbec" is, or if he can ever gain some sort of consistency. I think he deserves another significant look at the big league level, but I don't see a path for him, here, until 2025, unless Turner bolts after 2023.

I do think it is fair to say Bloom had a hand in the acquisition and development of several pitchers on the staff. We've heard over and over how our system fails at developing pitchers and shuns drafting pitchers highly. While Bloom should not get full credit for Bello and maybe not even half, he did not trade him away, like Kopech was. He has helped turned into the best pitching prospect this team has had since Lester. Look at where most of our better young pitchers were drafted or how they were selected. How did they get so good without the system finally doing something right? Houck: is another DD guy who was never really viewed as a solid ML pitcher. He was called up in 2020, so Bloom was not here to "develop" him in the minors, so maybe DD and his system should get most of the credit, here, but how do you explain this? Under DD: 5.64 ERA in A- 5.14 ERA in A+ 4.46 ERA in AA 4.11 ERA in AAA (just 46 IP) Under Bloom: 3.66 ERA in MLB Must be dumb luck, right? Whitlock: Rule 5s are long shots, but Bloom nailed this one and he has been "developed" just fine, except for maybe all the jerking around of his roles. Crawford: was a nobody. Now, he's is a key to this team's success. How did that happen? Winckowski: was part of the Beni trade many bashed to no end. He seemed like AAAA type pitcher. I guess someone put some magic spell on him, because Lord knows, we can't credit the Sox system for getting the most out of a guy many felt would be a journeyman, at best. Schreiber: is not young anymore, but he was 26 when Bloom selected of waivers from the Tigers back in February, 2021. The former 15th round pick has "developed" into a key pen piece for us over the past 2 years: 2.20 ERA in 82 IP with a 1.049 WHIP and 2.63 FIP. Must be blind luck, right? I get why Bloom gets a ton of blame heaped on him, and he deserves some or much of it, but maybe, just maybe, the corner has been turned on the task of successfully developing pitching talent in our system. Maybe not, but I think just maybe this has not all been hokus-pokus magic tricks.

Good points. Maybe saying he's doing "well" not "better" would have been a better choice of words. I was thinking more about total numbers with NYY v STL, but that's not really fair. JM did do better w STL, right after the trade, last year, but his numbers this year are pretty much in line with his recent years in NY. Would NYY take the trade back?

True, but then again, Pivetta has a 2.20 ERA since May 19th in 16.1 IP, which is the 6th most IP on the team in the last 30 games. Also, Sale was lost, and more recently Houck. Whitlock missed a couple starts in this time period, too. May 19> GS: 6 Paxton, 5 Bello & Houck, 4 Whitlock & Crawford, 3 Sale, 1 Kluber, Dermody & Ort IP/ERA 33 Paxton 3.24 31 Bello 2.61 25 Houck 4.32 23 Whitlock 3.13 20 Crawford 4.05 16 Pivetta 2.20 16 Wink 2.25 16 Sale 2.30 16 Kluber 8.62 11 Jansen 1.64 11 Garza 4.09 10 Martin 2.79 9 Bernardino 1.00 6 Murphy 0.00 22 Ort, Sheriff, Jacques, Dermody, Joely + Bleier

The Kluber and Pivetta demotions did help, a lot, but we also lost Sale, and more recently, Houck, yet the drum keeps beating. It certainly looks like Bloom's idea on building up the depth, first, before adding bigger quality pieces is paying off. Paxton (3.29) was viewed by many as possible mid season depth. Crawford (3.74) and Wink (2.34) were viewed as 26 man roster bubble players or minor league depth, back in March. Some felt Schreiber (2.12) and Refsnyder (.800 OPS) were a flash in the pan. In season additions? Bernardino (2.53), Sherriff (2.70) and Garza (3.46) have more or less held their own or better. Wong (.761) was supposed to be McGuire's back-up. Duran (.827) was minor league depth some felt might never get another chance. EValdez (.684) did pretty well before slumping. Extreme depth- has done well, too: Reyes (.712), Tapia (.701), Chang (.515 but calming defense.) Now, all the bigger named additions, except Kluber are coming through: 1.066 Duvall (just 76 PAs) .867 Yoshida .813 Turner 2.08 Martin 3.04 Jansen (15 saves/ 3 BS 83% blows last year's pen away.) To be fair, the bad... 7.04 Kluber (no longer has a meaningful role) N/A Mondesi (may no ever play, this year) 4 IP Joely (not looking like he will be helpful) .644 Kike (technically signed, last summer)

The Sox pitching staff is now ranked T16th in fWAR with LAD. We were bottom 5 or 6 for much of April. Since May 19th (30 games) 2nd in fWAR at 5.0 2nd ERA- at 80 3rd in FIP at 3.74 4th SIERA at 3.85 4th BB% at 7.3% T5th in BAbip at .282 6th in K-BB% at 16.5% 11th K% at 23.8%

Yes, but still JM is doing better when away from NYY- like the others.

Jansen & Martin? Turner & Duvall? Schreiber & Refsnyder? Wong & McGuire? Wink & Bernardino? The Chang, Reyes and Tapia dumpster dives? No more love to share?

I agree, but it is possible we have been offered something pretty good, but B loom wants more.

Maybe we can trade for him at the deadline. LOL