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Exactly. No Kluber, Kike, Duvall and Mondesi. Add 2 solid SP'ers via FA or by trading prospects. 1. Duran CF 2. Devers 3B 3. Story SS 4. Yoshida LF 5. Turner DH 6. Dugo RF 7. Casas 1B 8. Chang/Arroyo/Valdez 2B 9. Wong/McGuire C Bench: Refsnyder, Chang/Arroyo/Valdez, Wong/McGuire SP1 ______ SP2 Bello SP3 ______ SP4 Houck SP5 Whitlock/Sale/Crawford/Pivetta CL Jansen R2 Martin R3 Schreiber R4 Winckowski R5 (see SP5) R6 (see SP5) R7 (see SP5) or Bleier/Mata/Walter/Murphy/Drohan/Kelly/Mills ML Ready on the farm: C C Hamilton, S Scott, R Hern (Hickey?) 1B Dalbec (Jordan?) 2B Yorke (Paulino?) 3B Sogard (Meidroth/Bonaci?) SS D Hamilton (Mayer?) OF Rafaela, Abreu, Rosier (Lugo?) DH Kavadas Maybe we add a 2Bman, too, but to me, 2-3 solid & durable SP'ers makes us strong contenders.
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I don't think anyone thinks we can or will win, if these injuries stay like this. It's getting tiring always hoping injured players return. It's like we are becoming the Yankees with all the injuries and injury prone players on the roster.
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We got the CWS to not only take Diekman and his full remaining salary for 2023 and 2024, but they gave us McGuire, too. I doubt we find any takers for Kluber or Mondesi, but we can hope. We could "sell" Duvall, and just play Duran FT in CF (with Kike as the RH'd possible platoon,) or we could trade Kike, if we know Story, Chang or Mondesi will be ready by the deadline. Pay off his whole salary, and maybe somebody wants him and will give more than a McGuire. In other words, we may buy and sell, again.
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Turner will be back in 2024, IMO.
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I’ve not given up, yet, but have no issues with those who have. Too many of these guys are expected back. At least Sale showed he can still bring it, when healthy. Story has been very disappointing but he’s still in his prime. I have faith in Houck and Whitlock, but they need to get back and soon. Schreiber was moved to 60 days, but I think that ends in July. Turner is a second half beast. Devers has the ability to have a career year, still. Have faith! Or not.
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Many felt we should have had a fire sale in 2022. Many felt we should have been heavier buyers. Not many expected what we ended up doing. There are about 4 weeks left to go, and so many teams are still in the WC race. Do we sell? Do we buy? Do we do a little of both? Do we do next to nothing? If we do decide to sell, we have the luxury of offering to pay all or almost all remaining salaries. This should increase the amount of teams making offers, and improve the return value we get. I'd say all free agents to be would be on the table and maybe some players who will be FAs after 2024 or redundant positional players with longer control. FAs after 2023: Kike Duvall Paxton Kluber Mondesi After 2024 Sale Jansen Martin Turner Pivetta Others? Dalbec Arroyo
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July 4, 2023 TX Rangers @ Red Sox 1:35 EDT
moonslav59 replied to vegasbob's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
The day off doesn't really help much, either. How long is Paxton gone? I guess as long as he is back for one start before the break, it doesn't matter. Only tomorrow's starter can fill 2 of the 6 slots. It's weird they don't start Bello Tuesday on normal rest, then they could start hm Sunday before the break. That way, we get 2 of the 6 slots filled with one guy. Oh well. My guesses: 7/4 TEX Walter 7/5 TEX Bello (+1 day rest) 7/6 TEX Murphy 7/7 OAK Crawford (+1) 7/8 OAK Paxton (+3) 7/9 OAK Whitlock (+2) or Walter/pen game -
A Zagnut bar?
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Javier's ERA went from 3.72 to 4.34 after letting up 8 runs.
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After losing 9 of 10 key games, last July, my gut was convinced it was over.
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Sadly, I was one of the first to give up, last year.
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It would be interesting to see records vs teams that had winning records when we played them- like adding the 3 gms vs PIT.
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I don't think giving Whitlock one more chance to see if he could stick as a starter was not such a bad idea. I thought he was a better choice than Houck or Crawford, so with Paxton and Bello out to start the season, he seemed like the best choice, then. Some context: Whitlock only started 9 games in 2022, so the sample size was small. Furthermore, his first few starts were not much different from long men out of the pen: Game 1, 2, 3... IP pitches 4.0 48 3.0 61 5.0 78 3.0 82 5.0 80 3.0 71 6.0 84 6.0 70 4.0 71 One 9 game stretch from late April to early June. 2 starts over 5 IP 4 starts over 3 IP Hardly a sample size worthy of judging.
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We have played more games vs .500+ teams than almost anyone else, so that is one reason we have the second most wins, but these are the only teams with winning records vs winning teams: 28-17 TBR 26-16 ATL 23-18 SFG 24-21 BAL 27-24 BOS 25-23 NYY Only the Padres and Sox do better vs winning teams than losing teams. Padres: 22-25 winning/16-21 losing Most games vs .500+ teams 54 TOR 51 BOS, CWS & STL 50 NYM 49 MIN 48 NYY & AZ 47 SDP 45 TBR, BAL, PHI & others The lowest games vs winning team by the better teams: 38 MIA & MIL 40 LAD 41 SFG, CIN & HOU 42 LAA 43 TEX
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I counted about 28 starts missed due to injury. When you figure Kluber and Pivetta were demoted to the pen, and our 8th starter, Crawford, missed time in May, our rotation has done pretty well. They are actually top 15 and even top 8 in several meaningful stats. We've got next to nothing from Mata, Walter and Murphy, who were all supposed to be MLB ready and added depth, this year. Our pen had a few injuries, too, and are still missing Schreiber.
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It's what doomed Ben. All the $5-10M deals like Kluber, Richards, Perez, Wacha, Hill and Kike are stabs in the dark, in general, at those prices. Story (1.5 years into a 6 year deal) Yoshida (0.5 yrs into a 5 year deal) Devers (starts next year) Think inflation: Ben started his career with a big salary dump trade, too. (Punto trade), then.... $110M/8 Pedey extension $72M/7 Rusney $39M/3 Vic $32M/2 Napoli $27M/2 Dempster (retired after 1 year) These 2 signings for 2015 did him in: $95M/5 Pablito $88M/4 HRam
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He may. He may not. Nothing is "clear."
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I think most of us prefer they were in the pen, but we realize the need in the rotation is stronger. Both have wildly better numbers through their first 25 and 50 pitches than afterwards. We appear to have 5 very nice long men, but we can't use them all that way. Whitlock Houck Crawford Pivetta Winckowski
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Have not heard a peep.
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I'd like to keep Houck, Whitlock and Wink in the pen- mayb e Crawford, too, but until we have 5 solid and durable starters, we can't. Pivetta has looked good out of the pen for a short time. He has had long runs at success as a SP'er, as recently as 2021 and 2022, so I'm not as locked into him as just a pen arm as the others.
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He's not getting paid all that much. As a long pen arm, he can easily earn his keep.
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Our SP'er ERA is at 4.73 (pen 3.96) WHIP is 1.276 (pen 1.310) OPSA in .760 (pen .719) OPS Against as SP'ers .587 Paxton 2.70 ERA .657 Bello 3.08 .695 Houck 5.05 .739 Sale 4.58 .810 Crawford 5.30 .841 Whitlock 5.23 .881 Kluber 6.26 .885 Pivetta 6.30 (I won't list openers.) Our rotation ranks... 27th in HR/9 1.54 24th ERA 4.73 (22nd in ERA- at 106) 19th in fWAR 4.7 13th WHIP 1.28 7th xFIP 4.01 (8th xFIP- at 94) 6th SIERA 4.03 6th K-BB% 16.7%
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That would be a big boost, but I'm tired of hoping for his return. We need Houck back, ASAP. The good Houck.
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I think trading him is probably a given. Paying his whole salary might gain some takers, but we won't get much for him, unless he explodes over the next 4 weeks. Kluber, too. Anyone want Mondesi? LOL!
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To think our rotation has actually been a strength for longer than a weakness, while Houck and Whitlock have been so up and down, is amazing. Couple that with the Kluber and Pivetta demotions, and one can see the value of having better SP'er depth than we've had in a pretty long time. It's funny that I was counting on one from Mata, Walter and Murphy to be helpful depth to the rotation, this year.
