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OPS Leaders on the Farm (20+ PAs) 1.365 Teel FCL/GRE (only 1 K) .995 Cespedes DSL (24 xbh in 178 ABs) .992 Dalbec AAA (28 HRs + 15 SBs) .962 EValdez AAA (.384 OBP) .956 Asencio DSL (20 BB/24 Ks in 76 ABs) .908 Asigen FCL/SAL (.451 OBP/ 12 SBs in 39 gms) .906 Fitzy AAA (39 xbhs) .905 Hickey A+/AA (36 xbhs) .904 Joh Garcia (.408 OBP) .901 Nunez DSL (.401 OBP) .890 Scott AA/AAA (29 xbhs and 40BB/55Ks in 235 ABs) .886 Brannon FCL/SAL (.583 SLG) .880 Yuten FCL (.396 OBP) .,874 GRod DSL (.387 OBP) .873 Musett DSL (.441 OBP) .873 Rafaela AA/AAA (.524 SLG and 34 SBs, but 13 CS) .864 Abreu AAA (.377 OBP) .862 Jordan A+/AA (42 xbhs) .856 Anthony A/A+ (.397 OBP and 13 SBs in 79 gms) .853 Arias DSL (13BB/12Ks in 117 ABs) notables .835 Bonaci .817 RHern (14 Hrs) .813 Rosier (41 SBs) .802 DHam (43 SBs)\ .799 Yorke .796 Kavadas .785 Meidroth

In no way was I trying to say Yoshida is even close to the complete player Ichiro was. I was only responding to the point about his batting and swing style not being sustainable. I offered a case where it was. I have no idea if Yoshida can sustain his hitting for the whole contract, but I'm not going to hold his swing style against him.

True. Let's hope his next 26 PAs show marked improvement.

No doubt, but their batting styles seem similar, to me.

We got Yoshida for his bat, and he has delivered, so far. MLB wRC+ T32. Turner 125 (1.7 fWAR) T34. Casas 124 (0.9 fWAR) T34. Yoshida 124 (1.2 fWAR) T34. Devers 124 (2.2 fWAR) T82. Dugo 105 (2.0) 4 in the top 35, is pretty awesome. Duran is at 124, but his 344 PAs DNQ. OPS Leaders (300+ PAs) 29. Devers .847 38. Duran .839 (Only 30 batters have more PAs and a better OPS.) 39. Casas .839 41. Turner .835 44. Yoshida .828

I'm on talksox, a lot, but you keep saying "in your tiny corner of the world." I'm confused.

Has any Sox prospects ever gotten off to a better start than Teel? (20+ PAs) .529 BA .600 OBP .765 SLG 1.365 OPS Could we see these rankings by the end of the season? 1. Anthony 2. Mayer 3. Teel 4. Rafaela 5. Bleis Is this the best top 5 we've had since _____?

Yes, on that huge corner.

Do the Sox metric geeks look at this kind of thing, or maybe do but think it's a fluke- like CERA.

Agreed, and it seems weird that the pitching is what has been carrying us, lately.

Not according to Red... 99% of Sox Nation wants us to go for winning now, every minute of every day.

Yes, I'm not sure he's been a "big enough impact," too. We knew he was not a great fielder and would likely be our DH within 1-3 years. DH's and low defense left fielders often get shorted on WAR.

They said that about Ichiro Suzuki, too.

It could be it really was a 5 year plan all along, but they were just afraid to day it out loud, in public. Last winter, they did sign more seals longer than 1 year than the previous 3, combined. That is pretty telling. True, many were just 2 year deals or one year deals with options, but it might be showing they feel we are getting closer to a time where some longer term deals make sense. We have some farm help, finally, and with more coming, soon. We have budget space, and Sale's contract expiring after 2024. We lose just two key players, this winter: Paxton and Turner (who both could be re-signed along with others.) I'm done predicting "this is the winter we start spending, again," but I'm going to say it might be. (Maybe they wait until 2025, but we have a lot of contracts expiring after 2024, and some good players, at that.

I'm wondering, if he might pass Mayer, at some point.

If they just stopped throwing hard and trying to spin it so much!

I am far from "giving up on 2023." To talk about 2024, as you too have done, does not mean I'm thinking 2023 is over.

I'm thinking we would not have gone over the line, this year, even if we stayed under, last year, but that's a seperate issue.

This might be more about next year, but here it is. We lost some big names, last winter- much more than we will lose, this winter. I figure we will lose about $40M in tax budget salary, assuming we don't resign or bring back any one who is a FA or has an option. (Kluber, Duvall, Paxton, Mondesi, Turner & Joely.) The only two that really matter are Paxton and Turner. If JH allows the budget to be near or over the tax line in 2024, we should have an easier task than last winter. The Devers extension kicks in and will add about $12M, so that is significant. The ARB raises will add some more: Dugo 3rd arb of 4 ($6.3M in '23) Pivetta 3 of 3 ($5.4) Urias 3 of 4 ($4.7) McGuire 2 of 3 ($1.3M) Without any outside additions, this would be the foundation we have to build on. Some may think it looks severely lacking and should be much better, by now. Some may think it shows some serious improvement over what we looked like in 2020. Most are probably somewhere in between. The 26 SP: Sale, Bello, Pivetta, Houck, Crawford RP: Jansen, Martin, Winckowski, Schreiber, Whitlock, Murphy, Joely, Bernardino C: Wong, McGuire 1B: Casas 2B: Urias, Reyes SS: Story 3B: Devers LF: Duran, Refsnyder CF: Rafaela RF: Verdugo, Abreu DH: Yoshida The rest of the 40: (Red= Rule 5 Protected) SP: Walter, Drohan, Wikelman, Perales RP: Kelly, Mills, Robertson, Jacquez, Barraclough C: SScott 1B: Dalbec 2B: EValdez SS: DHamilton 3B: Paulino Removed from 40: Ort, Garza, Llovera

Woo won 8-4 as Abreu remains hot. Will he be our starting RF'er, next year? 2-4 Abreu w HR, 2B and 4 rbi (.864) 2-3 Rafaela w BB (1.035) 1-3 EValdez w HR & 3 rbi (.962) POR lost 5-1 Coffey 6IP, 2H, 1ER, 1BB, 4K 2-4 Bonaci 2 2B GRE is up 8-7 Bastardo got lit up, but Teel is el fuego! 3-4 Teel 2-3 Paulino 2-5 Anthony SAL lost 8-7 Nunez 4 IP, 1H, 0ER, 0BB, 6K 3-4 James 2-4 Asigen FCL won 3-2 1-3 Zanetello 1-4 Tucker w HR DSL Blue won 4-0 2-4 Cespedes DSL Red lost 3-2 Henriquez: 5IP, 2H, 1ER, 1BB, 5K

I felt we need to go 8-2 in these 10 games vs the weaker teams. That would take a 4 game winning streak. I guess 7-3 would be okay. I still like our chances vs the tougher teams, afterwards, but that will be the defining task. On calling for Bloom's head: I doubt he gets fired, no matter what. JH might be the only guy agreeing with that.

Yes, between then and now, but not now... (maybe.)

Scant???!!!!???!!!! Houck Whitlock Bello Crawford Winckowski Murphy I'd say this is a little more than "scant" that maybe our developing program is improving. Maybe Perales, Wikelman, Drohan, Walter, E R-C and others may prove you right, but I'm sensing a change for the good. BTW, in the last 50 years, we did have a few short stretches of nice pitcher development, unless it was just blind luck. The Lester, Buchholz, Papelbon, Masterson and Anibal Sanchez era The Clemens, Hurst, Ojeda and Boyd era

I never said he didn't try. I never said I'd agree to whatever the max deal needed to get either. I just said, we would not have had to part with any top prospects to get a SP'er that could have helped. Look, I'm on board with this whole long term plan idea, but we can afford to make a deal here and there for the current ML team. We did for Schwarber, and losing Aldo Ramirez did not kill our farm.

Yes, the morale of the team and fans. Rich people have emotions, too. If this season has proven anything, it's that you can never have enough good pitchers. We have always had someone like Brasier, Ort, Jacquez, Llovera and Barraclough pitching when the game still counts. If you really think we will go the next 7 weeks without any pitcher going on the IL or go through a period of struggling, I'll have to say, I disagree. We've already had 2-3 pen games, too many. Three more wins, right now, could be all we needed.