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Agreed. Ideal DH: 140 games Yoshida 11 games Devers (Urias at 3B) 11 games Casas (Devers at 1B)

\I'd call Ref a platoon LF'er, not a bench warmer. With Duran and Dugo struggling against LHPs, for most of their MLB careers, he should start vs every LHP, and get enough PH'ing chances to end up playing quite a bit (240-280 PAs.) I'm all for Yoshida being our near FT DH, but I could see Brez and Cora sharing the DH role as a way to rest just about everyone, without so many days off and then see this in the OF: LF: Yoshida vs half RHPs and some LHPs. Duran vs half RHPs Refsnyder vs most LHPs CF: Duran vs half RHPs Abreu vs some RHPs (starts in AAA) Rafaela vs all LHPs and some RHPs. (Defensive replacement) RF: Dugo vs all RHPs and some LHPs Refsnyder vs some LHPs

It is RHB Ahmed Rosario, who would be converted to 2B with the Sox.

Hey guys, don't take it from me. There is a headline on MLBTR that reads: Red Sox Prioritizing Starting Pitching Help https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/11/red-sox-prioritizing-starting-pitching-help.html

If you can't have Chapman, which other non pitchers are you most interested in? I'm thinking MAYBE Rosario, Bader or even Duvall from the scrubs list.

I'd be okay, if I knew we'd trade for an ace, but I'm not spending $25M our of $50 or $70M on a 3Bman, when we need 2-3 SP'er, a 2Bman and maybe a C, LH RP or RHB OF'er. It was not a quick decision. We've been over this for a while.

fangraphs placed his value to the Sox at $12.2M over his 2 years with the team (1.5 fWAR in just over 400 PAs)

Now, all of a sudden, we ignore OBP and place great value on SLG? The team had a .324 OBP. The 2004 team had its top 7 players by PA over .365. These are total PAs- not splits... Sox leaders in 2023 (240+ PAs: ) .367 Casas .365 Refsnyder .351 Devers .346 Duran .345 Turner (gone) .338 Yoshida .324 Verdugo (about to make $9M in 2024) .303 Duvall .288 Wong .279 Kike (gone)

8th place among all Sox players since 2004 is comparing him to chumps? Players with 400+ PAs and a worse OBP than Ref's .373 since 2004: .370 JD Drew .368 VMart & Mueller .367 Nixon .365 Pedey .363 JD M .356 Bogey .343 Devers among others. Also, only 19 players in all of MLB have more PAs vs LHPs and a higher OPS (.889) than Ref since 2022. All the rest must suck.

He places 8th in OBP by all Sox players with his amount of PAs or more since 2004. (That's not his split.) He's been our best batter vs LHPs since 2022, who is still on the roster. He's making peanuts. Mistake?

When I look at the non pitchers on the FA list and what MLBTR projects their contracts to be, I can't see many deals I support offering. $264/12 Bellinger: LMAO $150/6 Chapman: sorry notin. Nope. $80/4 Teoscar: sure, we need another DH! NOT! $70/4 Candelario: Nope. $54/4 Gurriel: Not another LF'er! $50M/5 Jung Hoo Lee: A CF'er, but bats LH'd. $45M/3 Soler: Yup, another LF'er! $40M/2 JD M: We have 9 DHs, already. $39M/3 Garver: More DH than catcher, but does bat RH'd w power. $36M/2 Hoskins: 1B/DH- been there-done that. (That's only 10 in MLBTR's top 30 FAs.) $26M/2 Kiermaier: Nice glove in CF, when healthy, but bats lefty. $20M/2 H Bader: Hey! He bats RH'd and plays CF. Can't hit well. $20M/2 Urshela: Nope $18M/2 Ahmed Rosario: Bats RH'd but not well. Could be good at 2B. $18M/2 Merrifield: RHB, but near .700 and not good on D: Nope $16M/1 Turner: RHB, love the guy, but we have a DH. $16M/2 Heyward bats LH'd. $15M/1 Belt bats LH'd. $12M/1 Tim Anderson: bats RH'd but fell off a cliff and is not good on D. Maybe OK at 2B, but Nope. That's the top 50, and only Rosario looks mildly interesting, to me. Some of the honorable mentions look more appealing: Duvall Michael A. Taylor Pretty sad. The best of the best don't fill a need or cost way too much.

I don't want Duran in CF or Ref in RF. It would defeat the plus on D in LF.

Signing Wacha or Cleninger would not be what I call a "pipedream." Signing Severino would be a nightmare.

Yes, I read your post on D, and I'm not against adding him. Gurriel is a RHB. He is much better on D. Here is another O comp: Career: 115 OPS+ Gurriel 105 OPS+ Dugo 2020-2023: 113 OPS+ Gurriel 105 OPS+ Dugo 2023: 108 OPS+ Gurriel 100 OPS+ Dugo I'm all for signing Gurriel and trading Dugo.

I thought he was as good as gone, before this.

Bowl Rankings & games remaining: 1. Ohio St. (Mich St, MN, @#3 Mich) 2. Georgia (#9 Ole Miss, @ GA Tech) 3. Michigan (#10 @ Penn St., @MD, #1 Ohio St) 4. FSU (MIA Fl, @ FLA) 5. Wash (#18 Utah, @#12 Ore St., Wash St.) 1 loss teams 6. Oregon (USC, #12 Ore St.) 7. Texas (@TCU, @IA St., TX Tech) 8. Alabama (@ KY, @AUB) 9. Ole Miss (@#2 GA, ULM, @MS St.) 10. Penn St. (#3 Mich, @ Mich St) 11. Louisville (VA, @MIA Fl, KY) Then Conference championships games.

Who was the fool who brought up this guy's name? We don't need another DH!!!

Since 2004, who is 4th on the most IP list for the Sox, behind Lester, Wake and Beckett? Just IP after 2004... A) ERod Porcello C) Buchholz D) Lackey (Note: the #4 guy is over 200 IP ahead of #5.)

Do you know that among Sox players from 2004 to today, with 420+ PAs, Refsnyder has the 8th best OBP at .373? Out of the top 10 with 1,000+ PAs, which does not belong? Manny, Papi, Youk, Agon, Betts, Damon, Pedey, JD Drew, Millar and Nixon. (Note: Mueller belongs on the list.)

Since 2004, the Sox leader in ISO with 350+ PAs is, surprisingly, Duvall at .284. Name the one player with 1,000+ PAs who is not in the top 5: Manny, Ortiz, JD, Betts & Devers (Note: Moreland is top 5! Bobby Dee missed top 7 by 49 PAs! Salty is 7th!)))

Since our magical 2004 season, which player does not belong on this top 10 wRC+ list? 550+ PAs 148 Manny 147 Papi 140 Beltre 138 AGon 135 Betts 134 J Bay 134 JD M 130 Youk 128 Casas 123 Devers (Note: VMart belongs in the top 10.)

He's as good as gone.

Gurriel: 115 OPS+ career (113+ since 2020.) 2023: 108 Gurriel 109 Yoshida

The fact that he DH'd more than he caught over the last two seasons, you have talked me out of the idea.

Framing Skills: 2023: 28. McGuire +1 (15th in 2022 at +3) 47. Wong -4