moonslav59
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You're sounding like those posters who fail to name names, but claim "there are many posters who _____."
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I think we all have vented here, at some point. Some more than others.
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That's what we did between 2019 and 2020. We failed to match the 2018-2019 spending in 2021, too. We "saved" by not buying, and the owners maybe made more money.
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More or less? Okay, change it to... $200M Monty $150M Imanaga I was just trying to compare a similar financial choice that can be made.
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Maybe, at the deadline, we can trade DHam and Binelas for Renfroe.
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Let's hope it turns into a place to rejoice and share in some good news, soon. Merry Christmas! Ho! Ho! HOoooOOOOO!
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Well, if there is a monetary spending limit, it might come down to a choice like that, assuming Yamo would take 350M/10 from BOS over all others and Monty plus Imanaga would sign for $350M combined with BOS as an alternative choice for Brez & Co. I'd take Monty and Imanaga for $175M/5, each over Yamo for $350/10. The lux tax might be double for 5 years, unless we can defer money, but it looks less riskier by spreading 5the risk to 2 players, not one, and going 5 years not 10.
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I disagree. It is an indicator, but not a very strong one, unless the guy is post prime. Burnes only has a 3 year sample size with what seems to be one outlier year, that happened to be year one (2021.) The decline from 2022 to 2023 is somewhat marginal. The big decline was from '21 to '22. It is concerning, but at age 29, I think it is 50-50 we see a decline in 2024 vs the same or better.
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Save money by not spending on players, which allows them to make more money.
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It is very significant. It's the time frame I use most often. My point was about recognizing a trend in 3 years as an indicator of future projections.
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How about Yamo vs Monty + Imanaga? Same cost. Then, you have one less major slot to fill and can spend the leftover money on 2B and maybe C, RF or third SP.
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Agreed. I just said the same thing on the other thread. To me, the worst thing about any of these options, from my perspective, is the years of control. If we get Burnes for 1 year, and he bolts, that would really suck. That being said, getting Yamo for 10 years and watching him suck would be worse, but I think at worse, he'll be just a good to decent pitcher for 6-7 years.
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He's only pitched over 60 IP, in his last 3 years. That 2021 season was amazing, but he has been very good for the two following years. ERA-: 58> 73> 77 xFIP: 2.43>3.05>3.40 It has been a steady decline, but a 3 year sample size is hard to determine a longer trend. All these candidates have questions. My biggest worry about Burnes is not his projected value going forward: it's the 1 year of control.
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Let's see, if he can stick with a team for more than a year.
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I would think one from Houck or Whitlock could grow into that role, nicely. Knowing you are in for just 1 IP can really add to the focus and effort needed. I could see using Martin, in 2024, on days Jansen is not available, but I like the idea of giving one of those two a shot, and maybe keeping martin at set-up, where he excels.
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Who did?
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No. They are what they are: 21.4 in 8 yrs (about 2.6 per season fWAR and 2.6 bWAR) 9.8 in the last 3 years is better (3.3 per season fWAR and 3.1 bWAR) Last 3 years for Monty? 3.4 fWAR per season 3.0 bWAR
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thanks, MVP.
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I could be wrong, but wasn't Gray's last contract agreed to during his arb period, hence the non market type level of pay?
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Looking more closely at his last 3 year numbers in Japan, especially his K/BB rate, which is the one thing better than Yamo's, last year. Imanaga's numbers... ERA (IP) K/BB 2.83 (149) 4.4 in '21 2.04 (159) 4.7 in '22 2.66 (159) 7.9 in '23 (age 29) Yamo... 1.39 (194) 5.2 in '21 1.68 (193) 4.9 in '22 1.16 (171) 6.3 in '23 (age 24) I'm not trying to say he's better than Yamo, but if we are anointing Yamo king, based on his numbers, then Imanaga's look pretty good, too. Maybe not as good as Monty or Snell, but possibly close enough to be in the same tier. At worst, he might be the best of the next tier.
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I'm starting to think Imanaga belongs in the same tier as Monty and Snell (Gray and Nola are gone.) I can't see why we should be shut out from one of them: NYM NYY TOR SFG BOS Yamo (odds are he goes to NYM or NYY) Snell (odds are he goes to the loser of the Yamo race.) Monty Imanaga The loser on these two may sign 2 of the next tier, but yuck! (It better not be us!)
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I do agree, it is more likely the Mets or Yanks get 2 from Yamo, Snell and Monty, but I don't think it's a slam dunk we have no or very long odds at getting one. I'm also fine with Monty and Imanaga, if the Mets get Yamo and the Yanks get Snell.
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I'm not against that idea to some extent, but he also complains we don't spend as much as we used to, and JH needs to go. If we don't overpay, how else do we spend? 26 tem million dollar guys like Richards and Kluber?
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He doesn't want us to overpay for anybody, then complains that our GM does nothing.
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I'm not saying he won't spend. I'm saying at some point, he might think, "I can do better with my money" than signing Yamo. Let's say the price gets so high, he could sign Imanaga and Monty, instead. Might he not decide to do that, and let the Sox have Yamo?
