Maxbialystock

You're citing the NY Post, the very outfit that reeks with hatred of the Sox? You also have a problem reading things carefully. Some examples-- 1. The attack on Joe West which is based on his lack of agility. There can be times when the 2B umpire needs to be both agile and perspicacious, granted, but what you need for that RF ump is a good set of eyes, experience, and a willingness to make a call--all of which Joe has in abundance. The core of the argument about that call isn't about what Joe saw because he saw what actually happened--the Astros fan touched Betts glove and caused him to miss a grab. What remains in doubt, agreed, is where was the the glove, in the stands--more on that in a moment--or in the playing field. And I would argue no ump in the history of MLB would have sprinted all the way out there to eyeball that play definitively in terms of where Mookie's glove was. In other words, at least half of that stupid article is about a non-issue, the agility of Joe West. 2. Then there's this little gem: "Betts' glove closed a fraction too soon--perhaps because of contact from a fan." Perhaps????!!!!! Obviously the Post columnist did not watch the replay because that part of it was never in doubt--Betts timed his jump perfectly and his glove was in exactly the right place and open to receive the ball--until he was closed by the fan's hand as he tried to catch the ball. 3. Or consider this curious construction from Houston manager Hinch: “There’s no mechanism for me to change their mind, change their interpretation, change the fact that I thought the ball was a row or two into the stands,” I point especially to the phrase "the fact that I thought." Clearly, he badly wants to get the word fact in there even though what he has is a supposition. He only thinks--because he has no way of knowing--the ball was a row or two into the stands. Also, "a row or two into the stands is an obvious exaggeration. Were that the case, how in the world did Betts recover so quickly to retrieve the ball now on the field and throw it to the infield? Also, why didn't he crash into the wall is his glove was a row or two back in the seats?

It was a judgment call because of a stupid rule that gives fans first rights to a playable ball. Clearly the fan trying to catch it hit Betts glove, and just as clearly he was about to make a terrific catch but the fan contact closed his glove. I might understand the controversy if Betts ended up in the stands or almost in the stands, but he was so far out of the stands he was able to quickly grab the ball and throw it to the infield. What really torques me is that it's now about the controversy with nary a mention of Betts making a great play.

Read it on ESPN, who interviewed Astro fan who caught the Altuve dinger, but was the attacked by Betts who climbed into the stands, took the ball, and claimed he caught it. A travesty that Joe West and the guys in New York think it was actually fan interference. MLB should be investigated.

It was stupid by Correa. Just stupid.

His fast ball is very hittable.

FWIW, I agree with rationale for leaving Porcello in.

With ERod starting, no long reliever.

ERod is not on short rest.

Not so. In fact, both of Reddick’s hits Have been off low pitches.

Porcello is fooling no one tonight.

Could be. Certainly awful for a hitter like JDM.

Sounds like a hobby horse you are riding--but there can be little doubt that the best way to beat those big shifts is to go to the opposite field and not to try to hit over them. Thus the Sox also seem to be hitting fewer dingers. I wonder is there are collaborative stats about the Yankees who, if anything, seemed to finish the season hitting more home runs. Did they go to the opposite field less than other teams?

The "thought" that it hit the wall first means to me you are imagining it. No way, no how did it hit the wall first. First, the slow motion I'm seeing shows the ball going directly into the glove. Second, the glove is not positioned in a way that would allow the ball to be caught coming off the wall. Way too much "thought" has gone into this thread.

The amazing thing about this postseason so far is that the Sox have played only 100 game winners--Yankees and Astros--and have won 4 of 6. In fact, if memory serves, both the Yankees and Astros were heavily favored to beat the Sox. The pitching has not been great, but it has been good enough. Same goes for the hitting, especially if you discount the 16-1 thrashing of the Yankees in game 3 of the ALDS. Last night was a highly contested 3-2 game until the 8th when Osuna took a walk on the wild side. Maybe he was studying Kimbrel to get that motion just wrong. I'm not sure Morton will bomb tonight, but think the Sox will continue to be a tough team to beat and a good bet to win tonight.

The best part about Eovaldi last night was that he started out throwing heat, heat, and more hit. Five straight pitches at 100 mph or more. Then he started throwing more and more breaking stuff which was just as good if not better than the high heat. And that's what got him thru 6 innings and 2 runs. About the walks. I think we have to tolerate a certain amount of them because the alternative this season has been lots of dingers by the other team. The Sox won the ALDS with two straight wins in Yankee Stadium in part because they kept the ball in the park in both games. And how did Workman give up that 3 run dinger vs the Astros? By throwing a middle of the zone fast ball on his first pitch to that batter. And you better believe the Astros can hit. Their postseason team OPS is .859. Agree with cp176 that the announcers and the known universe are all rooting for the Astros. I think their ideal WS was going to be the Dodgers and Yankees, and the Sox spoiled that dream.

Great win of course. Beyond question the hero has to be Eovaldi who pitched a great, intelligent game. Devers maybe should had that double, but he also got a key single in the 8th to keep things alive. The most amazing part of this ALCS is that the Sox bullpen has outpitched the Astros bullpen. Less amazing is Cora’s magic touch continues. To be clear. I was one of the pessimists after game 1. So these two wins, both hard fought, are all the more amazing. In my defense, none of the commentators gave the Sox much chance either. Tonight hung on not one but two HBP’s unless we expected our bullpen to hold that 1 run lead.

Meh. We all did, except for moonslav.

Who’s got the great bullpen? Can’t be Houston.

5th is actually a great spot for Pearce. Plus I’ll always prefer Cora’s lineup.

5th is actually a great spot for Pearce. Plus I’ll always prefer Cora’s lineup.

Agree. Cora is clueless about so many things. And JDM can’t hit spit. Drop him down to maybe 7th.

Huge game by Eovadi so far. Started with high heat, now switched to breaking stuff.

Betts RF Beni LF JDM DH Bogey SS Pearce 1B Nunez 3B Kinsler 2B Vazquez C JBJ CF

I believe in the righty-lefty thing--that it favors the hitter--but not devoutly. In the end so much depends on execution by the starter. If he has a good changeup, that's a leveler. Good fastball well placed is too. And, if he is a lefty against righties, even a sharp breaking curve or slider can work. As for Eovaldi vs. Houston, he did get tagged for 4 solo dingers on June 20. Awful. But he faced the Yankees 3 times for 16 innings in Aug-Sep without giving up any dingers. He pitched 20 innings in September without any dingers. So there is hope. If there is a theme to the Sox pitching in this postseason, it just might be, keep the ball in the park. Worked great in Yankee Stadium and was maybe why the Sox gave up 15 walks in the first two ALCS games. Sale and Price together gave up 8--4 apiece.

Well, I love a 5:09 start time and hate an 8 pm start time. I might miss watching part of this game, but can listen on my iphone.