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2018 ESPN Prospects Stuff (Sox Related)
sk7326 replied to sk7326's topic in Red Sox Minor League Talk
Remember, one of the guys who would have been on the list died. 3-4 of the top 100 or so is not terrible considering the number of guys who graduated or were dealt the last 2-3 years. -
2018 ESPN Prospects Stuff (Sox Related)
sk7326 replied to sk7326's topic in Red Sox Minor League Talk
Just missed the Top 100 Tanner Houck, RHP -
Flags fly forever - that's why an org does all of this. Epstein I am sure misses Torres - but winning titles is what all of this is for.
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Well 3 of the 4 position players are starters already - and Devers, Benintendi have all-star upside for sure. Moncada's rawness still gives him a wide range of outcomes. Pitchers I've stopped betting on.
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Pena and Morrison were both uber prospects though - sometimes it takes the right coaching staff to find a home
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like this?? http://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/18520-2018-ESPN-Prospects-Stuff-(Sox-Related)
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From the Top 100 ... with a system with a lot of graduates, obviously the Sox are thin at the top ... http://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/22181590/keith-law-2018-top-100-prospects-nos-50-1-introducing-tomorrow-superstars 30. Jason Groome, LHP, Age 19, Last year rank: 20 76. Michael Chavis, 3B, Age 22, Last Year Rank: UR
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Rankings are what they are - without access to what BA actually wrote, it is not that educational.
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From the Top 100 ... with a system with a lot of graduates, obviously the Sox are thin at the top ... http://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/22181590/keith-law-2018-top-100-prospects-nos-50-1-introducing-tomorrow-superstars 30. Jason Groome, LHP, Age 19, Last year rank: 20 76. Michael Chavis, 3B, Age 22, Last Year Rank: UR
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Not a great athlete - it's all in his bat ... Pujols dove down in production over that age range (and was one of the league's worst regulars at age 36). Adrian Gonzalez was another cautionary tale - although he remained decent but not at all worth the price.
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I am pretty sure there was nothing in the chromosomes which helps in this area. I am glad they talk about baseball - it's not the same as actually doing the job. Now Boone might be better than Girardi - but Girardi sets a pretty good standard. Boone's experience on the media side and playing in NY should help with that part of the job (which in NY and Boston is very large) Of course that is essentially what the "pressure" part is vis a vis managing in these markets. Cora has more actual experience in the coaching/front office side ... with similar media qualifications.
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Bottom line (for the Sox, or Yanks or anybody) is if the top of the rotation starts to bleed, things get complicated quickly. There are very few teams that can truly survive losing it's #1 or #2 pitcher.
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I don't know about either ... but Cora has actual experience 1. on a big league coaching staff 2. being a manager in a professional setting Boone's best credential is hitting that homerun and seemingly not being as big a jerk as his brother
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The Yanks clearly made the Stanton splash and that deserves a ton of respect. However, they did downgrade at manager (potentially), and the Red Sox could (should??!!) be better simply by having so much quality youth. Yanks fans should be excited - but if the Sox add Martinez, there is no reason not to be excited in Boston.
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To be fair college basketball recruiting is much more like drafting than FA ... while you want to fill needs, you are looking for stars ... the Red Sox are not speculating here. I think they and Martinez will come together eventually - it makes too much sense not to. But Dombrowski is being smart here - Martinez is the sort of guy you'd like to not give 5 years to, let alone 6 - even if that means higher AAV to do it.
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The Sandoval signing was super risky - his swing and his age gave some reason for hope, but the red flags were obvious. He was much worse than anybody could imagine. The Ramirez signing was actually pretty good on paper - they got away without having to give him 5 years, he was still a good hitter, and actually played a competent 3B. The idea that he would completely fall to pieces while being moved to an easier defensive position, while slipping offensively (granted some of that was health related) was a nightmarish outcome. I always wondered if they just signed Ramirez to play 3B would things have worked out better. But again, the idea of moving him to LF to save his body was not a silly one.
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Because it is effectively an auction, you are almost likely going to end up with a bad deal ... just because you have to overpay slightly to win the auction. The question is not whether the value will hold over 5 years (it won't) so much as whether there will be enough value early to make up for it late. With Martinez I'm not sure - his "type" (30 year olds without much defensive value) has had a bad history of falling off a cliff. A guy like Lorenzo Cain might be safer just because if other stuff drops off, he'll probably still be an adequate CF. For Boston, free agency has to be the door since the trade bullets have been fired (and put to good use largely!). And of course, given the financial commitment the team expects from fans - laying out the bread is the least we can demand.
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There are 700 PAs across the two positions. I don't worry about PT. While Moreland looks like the likely 1B option - he was signed at a number that is small enough to not be much of a impediment if things changed.
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Martinez really should be a 1B/DH. If you are putting him in the field, it is to please him. The Red Sox incumbents are all better with the glove. I think right now this is just a staring contest - the Red Sox have the need and the money and nobody else has both.
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pitching is a need in the way that no team is ever set there - attrition is a bear. but this team needs to convert baserunners into runs - that was the problem.
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There is reason to expect positive regression. The team won 93 games without anybody having an uncommonly good year (aside from Devers). If you go through the lineup positions. C: Leon hit like a backup. Vasquez was by the end of the year his most likely best case scenario - pesky hitter to get out, but largely an empty .270 sort of dude 1B: Moreland has meh on base skills but can hit 20 HRs. Right in the middle, maybe better than that - of what you could have expected. 2B: Injuries, injuries. SS: Bogaerts struggled. How much of it was injury related? I think a lot - but it is an open question. 3B: Devers was a revelation clearly. LF: Benintendi was fine. Not amazing, but clearly good. CF: Bradley was a mild disappointment but this is probably what he is. A bit of a three outcome player who fields well enough to support it. RF: Betts was an MVP level performer - but yes dropped off a bit at the plate. DH: Ramirez was probably what you'd expect from him these days, but not very good.
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He is a very very poor fielder - and since he doesn't walk or hit homeruns, his value lies in making hard contact. When he has a good streak, it's fun.
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Stanton: I KNEW there was a reason I didn't like Jeter!
sk7326 replied to Carter's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Stanton drove the train here. Which made the fairly widely reported idea that Yeah Jeets did not contact him early on a very questionable move. Now, it might not have helped - but then celebrating your acquisition of the team by doing no media, running off Jeff Conine and then not contacting the soon to be MVP is a bit odd. -
Clearly a sign of being out on Hosmer - and a low enough dollar amount that if a better solution came, they could address it.
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What is funny is that if I didn't know better - I'd have forgotten that the Red Sox won the division with a pretty young core as far as these things go.